epassporte has "put the adult webmasters and affiliate programs at risk"?

[Dino Cortez]

Originally Posted by Fuckin Bill

That might not be a problem for some of the bigger guys. But when it comes to taxes and red flags that will go up with the government if they move their banking offshore...It's just 100 times easier to stay away from Epass and send a check.

I don't know about "100 times easier".

With so many sponsors to choose from, I suspect the ePass-safe ones will start picking up affiliates from the ones who are impacted by the problems (and are not willing to acknowledge that ePass is a MAJOR selling point to many affiliates).

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by Fuckin Bill

The problem with that though, is that funding offshore gambling from the US is illegal. Epassporte is doing absolutely nothing wrong. The problem is that a US bank gets into trouble for transferring money to a foreign organization, for the purposes of gambling. If it's a crime for a US citizen to gamble online, anyone who helps him do it is an accessory to that crime.
.

Well leaving aside the fact that the US is in breach of its agreements, I don't think they are going about it the right way. My personal view is that people should not gamble on credit, and the credit card companies make things too easy for people to run up debts. If the US wants to ban gambling, then it should be done within America, they should not attempt to destroy international businesses because of the public posturing of corrupt officials.

They should censor incoming ips like all the other countries which restrict the freedom of its citizens.

[Dino Cortez]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

ePassporte is committed to the Adult Industry, as our presence, support, sponsorship and staff have demonstrated for close to 5 years. This is not the case with some banks. Most of us have experienced problems in even having bank accounts at certain banks (B of A in particular) as we “…have income from pornography…”). This has happened to some of the largest companies in Adult.

And for those that say that some problems are because “ePassporte is in gaming”, that is untrue. We have never had any involvement in any illegal activities. We do have a few poker clients, no sports or casino sites.

Please consider that ePassporte has the largest Adult Sponsor programs using us as a payment method. We process millions of payments every month in the Adult Industry. We have been doing this for 5 years. Most of you know our Team. ePassporte is here for the long term, no matter what you hear.

Again, we are sorry for any inconvenience that third parties cause our clients and our business.

Keyser, thank-you very much for responding to this. I'm sure you can appreciate the concerns affiliates have when sponsors are acting and saying what they do.

I will assume from your comments that, as an affiliate, I can trust in ePass in continuing to be the great tool for affiliate program payment!

Thanks again!

[Head Boy]

So it seems that it's the false morality of the US bankers rather than the government that is causing all the problems..

btw Keyzer - gambling is not illegal despite the fact that many wish it were so.

[TheFall]

Fantasy Girl Revenue just dropped epass as a payment option...how long before a biggie like TopBucks or NastyDollars joins in...

[Dino Cortez]

Originally Posted by TheFall

Fantasy Girl Revenue just dropped epass as a payment option...how long before a biggie like TopBucks or NastyDollars joins in...

A smart sponsor will recognize that not all sponsors will be dropping out because not all sponsors are going to have the problems of some due to differences in their origin of business and banking arrangements.

There are lots of sponsors who are currently asserting that they are still committed to offering ePass as a payout method.

To be clear, it's not an issue of fault - some banks apparently are more problematic than others (and sponsors using them may be stuck).

But the real big money can always figure out how to work around issues - especially when the value of ePass payout is so great among a large affiliate base.

[Epic Cash Jeff]

Perhaps there should be a list of which banks dont accept EPS and which ones do for your EPS users.

Here are two off of the top of my head from personal experience
Bank of America (B of A)
Wells Fargo

[pam]

And, supposedly, you can no longer use Mastercard to load your ePassporte card.

BTW, Jeff, tell your boss I want my redlines

[Dino Cortez]

Originally Posted by Epic Cash Jeff

Perhaps there should be a list of which banks dont accept EPS and which ones do for your EPS users.

Here are two off of the top of my head from personal experience
Bank of America (B of A)
Wells Fargo

The bottom line is the bottom line (for affiliates).

I don't really care about which banks the sponsors have trouble with - that is their problem.

I just want to know which sponsors recognize the value of ePass as a payout method and have the innovation/resources to provide it.

It's interesting that on this thread all of the posts have been about the question where on another forum most of the responses (other than my own shameless bumping have been sponsors chiming in their continued support.

Epic Cash made a very loud statement about dropping EP, but I don't believe their message alone reflects sponsors in general. Especially when they make clear that they are only interested in US affiliates.

So US problems for US sponsors are not necessarily problems for other countries.

[Epic Cash Jeff]

Originally Posted by Dino Cortez

Epic Cash made a very loud statement about dropping EP, but I don't believe their message alone reflects sponsors in general. Especially when they make clear that they are only interested in US affiliates.

So US problems for US sponsors are not necessarily problems for other countries.

Not true at all. We take care of everyone. We will help out every one of our affiliates US or Intl. When there is a new option we will offer it. Right now, EPS is not an option.

[Head Boy]

Epass seems to be fairly popular, wouldn't it be worth Epic opening another bank account to feed it.

[Dino Cortez]

Originally Posted by Epic Cash Jeff

Not true at all. We take care of everyone. We will help out every one of our affiliates US or Intl. When there is a new option we will offer it. Right now, EPS is not an option.

I'm sorry, but I assumed that P1mpdogg represented Epic Cash.

According to him (in the past hour), and I quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
I dont care about you fools over seas or not from the USA. 95% of my affiliates are US based. I take care of my own ( meaning my homies from the states. the rest can fuck off for all i care)

Further, in response to my clarification:

Originally Posted by dcortez
Well that's the perspective we were missing. Thanks for clearing that up. EC is for US only. You might want to let webmasters outside the US know that you don't support them (I guess you just did).

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
its never been a secret you 3rd world reject.

Is this someone misrepresenting EpicCash?

??

[SleazyBear]

I have delt with epassporte 4 times in the last two months, I have been called a lier, I have been hung up on, and last night I was treated like dirt just because I called to ask a simple question to clear up a problem.. All I want is a fucking epassporte card with my fucking name on it.. Yes I will pay the fucking $20. All I asked last night is if I could get a new card without them canceling the one with the wrong name on it, till I get the new one.. The cunt instantly wanted to cancel this card, not answer my question..

[born2blog]

This is off topic, but for some reason last week my PIN # all of a sudden wouldn't work, then today I notice $11 credited to my account with no trace of where it came from in the online statement or even messages. All I'm trying to say is very strange things seem to be happening with epass lately and no news regarding this company really shocks me anymore.

[alpha_male]

if epass stop adult then what we will use?

i personaly use moneybooker if i have option but they don't support adult that much.

[Dutch Harry]

Originally Posted by SleazyBear

I have delt with epassporte 4 times in the last two months, I have been called a lier, I have been hung up on, and last night I was treated like dirt just because I called to ask a simple question to clear up a problem.. All I want is a fucking epassporte card with my fucking name on it.. Yes I will pay the fucking $20. All I asked last night is if I could get a new card without them canceling the one with the wrong name on it, till I get the new one.. The cunt instantly wanted to cancel this card, not answer my question..

I wish you luck with your card i had paid last your for mine and after 6 months of mailing and PMing calling Keyzer and there shitty support i had gotten my card, and they keep on saying that they had sent it but they clearly did not, not even a sorry for the delay nothing, that's how shitty the service is.

Now i need a new card in about a month and i am willing to bet that it is going to take them about 3/6 months to get that cars here.

[_LB_]

Originally Posted by Dino Cortez

I'm sorry, but I assumed that P1mpdogg represented Epic Cash.

According to him (in the past hour), and I quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
I dont care about you fools over seas or not from the USA. 95% of my affiliates are US based. I take care of my own ( meaning my homies from the states. the rest can fuck off for all i care)

Further, in response to my clarification:

Originally Posted by dcortez
Well that's the perspective we were missing. Thanks for clearing that up. EC is for US only. You might want to let webmasters outside the US know that you don't support them (I guess you just did).

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
its never been a secret you 3rd world reject.

Is this someone misrepresenting EpicCash?

??

Nice find

That puts things into perspective

[Jel]

Originally Posted by _LB_

Nice find

That puts things into perspective

Yup good to see pd stating his true opinions for a change

[Dutch Harry]

Originally Posted by Dino Cortez

I'm sorry, but I assumed that P1mpdogg represented Epic Cash.

According to him (in the past hour), and I quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
I dont care about you fools over seas or not from the USA. 95% of my affiliates are US based. I take care of my own ( meaning my homies from the states. the rest can fuck off for all i care)

Further, in response to my clarification:

Originally Posted by dcortez
Well that's the perspective we were missing. Thanks for clearing that up. EC is for US only. You might want to let webmasters outside the US know that you don't support them (I guess you just did).

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
its never been a secret you 3rd world reject.

Is this someone misrepresenting EpicCash?

??

Well that says it all about EpicCash.