sponsors banning torrent affiliates immediately

[seeandsee]

AFF on torennts, cracks sites, forums with rapidshare... And nobody can do anything...

[_LB_]

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

It was a bit s sarcasm.

I think if you really want to battle these guys you need to go where peopkle are using them.

Your barking up the wrong tree (or on the wrong board so to speak) cus almost no one here supports these type of things (Zango Torrents CP)

You guys need to go where people are using these applications and educate them there.

Opening threats here is pointless imho.

Lol yeah I know.

Sorry i didn't pick up the sarcasm though

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

You guys need to go where people are using these applications and educate them there.

harry, is there any effort that you're not negative and sarcastic about? do you really believe you can re-educate torrent surfers not to use torrents anymore? go ahead, i wish ya good luck...it's always easier making sarcastic comments and saying "you need to..." than taking constructive action yourself! or what else do you do about it besides writing sarcastic smartass comments?

the torrent sites have large bandwidth bills. i fully agree that this action alone will not make much difference. but if you wanna battle the torrent sites you gotta cut their financing. you gotta make it much harder for them to monetize. sponsors banning them is a start. i wonder why no program or content owner sues the shit out of lars/AFF for putting their ads everywhere next to their ripped stolen content. yeah, the dating industry is currently killing the adult industry.

[Dutch Harry]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

harry, blabla blabla blabla what else do you do about it besides writing sarcastic smartass comments?

So you think that bitching here on the Netpond about torrents sites will help right? sure,

For me not taking part in this thing is simple, because this battle is useless and a waste of time, if governments and laws all over trhe world can not bring these sites down then ho are you to think you can? some battles can not be won simple as that.

As far as my smart ass remarks, the last time i checked this was a forum were people could post there own opinions and not the opinions of the majority on this board if that is chanced please let me know so i can walk in line the next time i post something.

By The Way you don't have to read my posts dude, you can scroll away or put me on your ignore list, but i guess that the ego building thing from VC is starting to rub of on people.

Sad

But i will stay out of your so called "war on torrents" i will make no more sarcastic remarks about the righteous Netpond warriors.

Happy hunting.

[hardcoreblogger]

relax, mate, take a deep breath of course you can post your opinions and i can choose to read them and disagree, nothing personal here

i didn't say VG or me can bring torrents down lol. i only posted about two sponsors swift action on banning affiliates because i liked what adam did. lol this is not a war on torrents, dunno where you're getting this from, but maybe it should become one.

you seem to be bashing everyone that takes a stand and speaks out about sponsors supporting zango, or sponsors supporting torrent sites with cp links on them. your only reasoning is that it's happening anyway and noone can stop it. you don't contribute anything else to the discussion and imho this attitude of yours is really lame. if everyone on this planet shared this attitude of yours, *nothing* would ever change. think about it.

it's fine if you don't want to take a part in it, that's your decision, but why bash it all the time?!

[freechess]

glad to here something positive came from all the bickering. good

work v,g,

[Dutch Harry]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

it's fine if you don't want to take a part in it, that's your decision, but why bash it all the time?!

Ok i swear this is the last i will say about it because i am sick of all this shit.

You wanna know why?

It is irritating me, it because one of the people is using this to make a big name for himself and it started with calling out a respected member here, sorry when i see the other threats i automatically flip in to the bash mode and attack everything he stands for.

Is that wrong?

Yeah i guess it is, but is is funny to me

I like to bash people ho are blowing their own horns to loud, it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

But i have made my point and i promise to leave VC and the Torrents/Zango threats alone.

Be well and happy hunting.

Thank you.

H

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

relax, mate, take a deep breath of course you can post your opinions and i can choose to read them and disagree, nothing personal here

i didn't say VG or me can bring torrents down lol. i only posted about two sponsors swift action on banning affiliates because i liked what adam did. lol this is not a war on torrents, dunno where you're getting this from, but maybe it should become one.

you seem to be bashing everyone that takes a stand and speaks out about sponsors supporting zango, or sponsors supporting torrent sites with cp links on them. your only reasoning is that it's happening anyway and noone can stop it. you don't contribute anything else to the discussion and imho this attitude of yours is really lame. if everyone on this planet shared this attitude of yours, *nothing* would ever change. think about it.

it's fine if you don't want to take a part in it, that's your decision, but why bash it all the time?!

Harry likes to feel that everyone trying to do good is in it for their own personal name, and not for basically what is right. Do I think I will shut torrent sites down, no, will they stay here yes.

I can say that in the past 6 months I've had the plug pulled hosting side on at least 10 file sharing related sites. Be it torrent, BBS trader board, rapidshare etc, and I can promise you an extended amount of downtime will have a huge effect on their bookmarks. That's a good thing.

My main issue with these sponsors is simple, yes I can bitch that they support stolen content and etc, but that's on everyone, if you deal in content at some point it's going to be stolen, BUT the pages these people carry ads on and puts money into the pockets of torrent owners also traffics a serious about of CP/Underage content. I'm sorry, but I have a problem with this. And if it takes complaining on the boards to get it done, so be it.

I spoke out about wildcash other places, nothing happened. It was not until it was mentioned here that they decided to not carry ads on the same pages as CP.

I'd like to ask Harry to visit this link:

http://videogregg.com/i/read.txt

These files you can download on a torrent site while looking at a wildcash banner. Now after looking at that link Harry, I would love for you to explain to me why it was pointless to have them stop carrying ads next to these. It makes me think you also have a personal agenda that you are trying to protect.

I don't care if people hate me, call me names, say I only care about myself, it's not true. I don't like people who steal, and I don't like people who pay for people to spread CP around the net.

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

relax, mate, take a deep breath of course you can post your opinions and i can choose to read them and disagree, nothing personal here

i didn't say VG or me can bring torrents down lol. i only posted about two sponsors swift action on banning affiliates because i liked what adam did. lol this is not a war on torrents, dunno where you're getting this from, but maybe it should become one.

you seem to be bashing everyone that takes a stand and speaks out about sponsors supporting zango, or sponsors supporting torrent sites with cp links on them. your only reasoning is that it's happening anyway and noone can stop it. you don't contribute anything else to the discussion and imho this attitude of yours is really lame. if everyone on this planet shared this attitude of yours, *nothing* would ever change. think about it.

it's fine if you don't want to take a part in it, that's your decision, but why bash it all the time?!

Trying to debate with Harry is like trying to ask a mute retard to sing Opera.

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by _LB_

Lol yeah I know.

Sorry i didn't pick up the sarcasm though

Odd you supported me and gave praise in other threads... Confused...

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

It is irritating me, it because one of the people is using this to make a big name for himself

fair enough - that was just your assumption for his motives. but let's not get into that argument again

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

I like to bash people ho are blowing their own horns to loud, it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

could it be that this makes your own ego grow a little ? i wish you'd get that feeling from bashing the ones who really deserve it, eg the thieves and scammers.

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

Be well and happy hunting.

thx, same 2 u

[_LB_]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

Odd you supported me and gave praise in other threads... Confused...

Its not a case of supporting you or not supporting you. I agree with your aim, though disagree with the methods and honestly don't think anything good will come from it... the laws wont change and the big guys definitely wont change their ways.

I think Dutch Harry has some very valid points in this thread.

[ScreaM]

Originally Posted by _LB_

I think Dutch Harry has some very valid points in this thread.

Agreed.

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by _LB_

Its not a case of supporting you or not supporting you. I agree with your aim, though disagree with the methods and honestly don't think anything good will come from it... the laws wont change and the big guys definitely wont change their ways.

I think Dutch Harry has some very valid points in this thread.

Good has already come from it. Wildcash pulled it's link from torrent sites that promote and traffic CP all over the world. They've been questioned on this for well over a month on other boards, and nothing happened, but after bringing it to light here and some work they finally did pull the links.

Stopping people from paying to traffic CP is a good thing.

I know I will make enemies, I know people will think this is only for my own personal namesake, and I could care less.

There is a dirty underside to this industry.

A lot of newbie, or noobie webmasters come to the pond to learn and it sends them on their way to hopefully a successful webmaster career.

So I think it's fair to teach them the good and the bad, what sponsors are using shit methods, what to stay away from, how these things work, etc. There has already been a handful of people on this board who admitted to doing Zango installs and did not know what it does until it was brought to the boards. If it never came to the boards people would still be using Zango installing it and making life a lot worse for all of us.

I also think saying the local government is not doing anything so why should we. I've personally shut down dozens of trader, rapidshare, BBS, torrent type sites by contacting their host and making it not so pretty for them. Due diligence does pay off. Sure the sites go up a week later when they find a new host, but imagine the amount of bookmarks lost. Take a 100k TGP and put it off line for a week, watch the drastic change after that.

People can hate on me all they want, think I have an agenda, if you don't care about the dirty side of adult, don't open the thread, put me on ignore and continue your day as if we live in a cartoon fantasy land.

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by _LB_

I think Dutch Harry has some very valid points in this thread.

Originally Posted by ScreaM

Agreed.

i agree Dutch Harry does have some valid points and that this was merely a drop of water on a hot stone, if at all. but are you all taking the same conculsion as he is? does it make no sense to contact sponsors who advertise on torrent sites with cp links and ask them to take action? does it make no sense to inform other webmasters about which sponsors do take action and which don't?

so no matter if zango, torrents or cp, we should all just accept it and live with it and not do anything at all about it, because it's there anyway and it will never stop, right?

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

I think if you really want to battle these guys you need to go where peopkle are using them.

I think you need to attack from all angels, I contact hosting companies, I do the other leg work, the issue with adult programs are two things.

1. They are paying these sites to not only promote stealing our content, but also to push CP/Underage content all over the world. This is a huge issue and for me anyone who has no problem with their links next to CP has a problem to say the least and people should not want to work with them.

2. They make a significant amount of money to pay their bills from adult sites and programs. Cutting off who will use them is a huge deal and hurts the bank account. Wildcash just cut them off and they've had numerous ads on all those pages for week's. They've I assure you sent a significant amount of joins they will not be paid for now. This hurts them plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

Your barking up the wrong tree (or on the wrong board so to speak) cus almost no one here supports these type of things (Zango Torrents CP)

Ok to start I know 7 people who have contacted me from my thread that have pulled links because they were not aware that sexbankroll and sexsearch were using zango.

I believe there is a blog tool many webmasters use here that links directly to AFF who buys ad space next to CP. By supporting them, sending your viewers to them you are working with someone who promotes and pays for CP to be spread about the net.

This board is where a lot of newbies come to learn the industry and get a fresh start without having to deal with a lot of board politics and drama or trying to make a name for them self and compete with the high post count holders. I think the more we educate them on what's bad in this industry, who is using bad methods, who is shady, what products they are using how they work is a huge benefit and something I think we should be doing.

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

You guys need to go where people are using these applications and educate them there.

People everywhere use these applications, a lot of people just lurk this board, I was hit up by people who have not posted here in ages that had questions. I've taken on shitloads of icq's from people who wanted to know more about zango, and how it worked, because they had no idea.

I've had others join in sending e mails to places that promote stolen content and CP.

Educating everyone is key.

I know this place is very much laid back and family like, but educating everyone as to who is doing what is only a good thing.

I know you hate me because you felt I outed someone, which is not the case. I asked a question because something did not jive up properly and it's fully within my right to ask someone a question. I posted a thread saying I supported him, and had no beef. No one is shitting on him. If he had a problem he would speak out, we all know he is vocal. You are fighting his fight for him, hating on me, which at the same time is not right either

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

Opening threats here is pointless imho.

I think it's very much not pointless, many people here support them, every day newbies enter the pond looking for a fresh start. They should no the good and the bad. Plain and simple.

If you don't like my threads, or head boys threads, stay out of them, don't post in them put me on ignore and move on.

I hope this helps you see it from my side of the pond.

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

i agree Dutch Harry does have some valid points and that this was merely a drop of water on a hot stone, if at all. but are you all taking the same conculsion as he is? does it make no sense to contact sponsors who advertise on torrent sites with cp links and ask them to take action? does it make no sense to inform other webmasters about which sponsors do take action and which don't?

so no matter if zango, torrents or cp, we should all just accept it and live with it and not do anything at all about it, because it's there anyway and it will never stop, right?

Exactly, ignore it and it's not there mentality.