Article About True Teen Niche

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I see a lot of underfed Russians in the tour and some very crass settings. They would be the "Girl next door" assuming you lived in the villages of Russia. Maybe telling the shooters to make it look more Western might help sell it more. Though the "Little Russian Girl" niche could sell.

An innocent, fresh faced and virgin type girl with a dick in her ass and cum all over her face does lean towards coercing or even abusing her. Best to get it straight. Is she innocent, fresh faced and virgin type girl doing this for the fun of it or under pressure?

Good points
1. We have recently become aware of the first point you made here ourselves. So even though two of those sites; Teen Sex Movs and Solo Teen Girls are both 100% exclusive we realized there needed to be some changes in the way the content is shot. So we have opened our own exclusive studio as well as hired two photographers who are geographically spread out. We are actually getting Models that truly are appearing in their first videos ever. So there will be a greater variety of both girls and settings to appeal to our customers more.

2. All of our models are from former Soviet countries and as such precious few of them actually speak English. Part of the reason I was hired on was to help the program and sites appeal more to the 'Western' market. We have been seeing a gradual increase in English speaking traffic and in the past year and have seen an improvement of payouts being raised well over 200%. In an effort to make the videos better for those who, like me, are clueless as to what is being said in the videos. We will be adding English subtitles to the new videos. Our customers will be able to choose if they want to watch the videos with or without subtitles. kone chno eto horosho if they don't want to have words distracting them, but I personally love the subtitles myself

Thanks for your points Paul, I have been reading posts made by you on several boards for quite awhile and almost always get a different POV from you


spaz

[Paul Markham]

I read what you said Spaz and agreed with it. I then followed your signature link and was confronted by the same old content that's on 1,000 other site. Including mine. Just the same old generic teen porn.

Some obviously shot in Russia and some elsewhere. Not much reflected what you wrote.

To do that you need shooters who understand what they are doing, they need a budget that allows them to work well and keep them inside YOUR STYLE AND STRUCTURE.

I might be wrong but your sites to me look the same as so many others. A banner that bears little to no relation to the content. Content that was brought in from different sources and probably bought on a tight budget.

These are very initial glances and opinions formed from them. I tend not to look too hard. Just like your average surfer. If the first impression is poor I've made up my mind. Maybe it was your srtice that made me think I was going to see something else.

[Natasha_s]

nice and interesting article! thanks for the link!

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I read what you said Spaz and agreed with it. I then followed your signature link and was confronted by the same old content that's on 1,000 other site. Including mine. Just the same old generic teen porn.

Some obviously shot in Russia and some elsewhere. Not much reflected what you wrote.

To do that you need shooters who understand what they are doing, they need a budget that allows them to work well and keep them inside YOUR STYLE AND STRUCTURE.

I might be wrong but your sites to me look the same as so many others. A banner that bears little to no relation to the content. Content that was brought in from different sources and probably bought on a tight budget.

These are very initial glances and opinions formed from them. I tend not to look too hard. Just like your average surfer. If the first impression is poor I've made up my mind. Maybe it was your srtice that made me think I was going to see something else.

Every point you made is currently being addressed. To change an entire program and all of its sites is a time consuming and difficult job as I am sure you realize. ( Kind of like turning an elephant by tugging on its tusk) The True Teen Niche article is to not only point out where we have been, which means we feature girls that look like they are 18, to the direction we are headed, very high quality exclusive content.
this comment did concern me;

and was confronted by the same old content that's on 1,000 other site. Including mine. Just the same old generic teen porn.

our best selling and 100% exclusive sites are;
Teen Sex Movs
Solo Teen Girls
Drunken Teen Orgies
They Didn't Know
If you see any sets on any of those sites that appear anywhere else I would appreciate you letting me know. Please do not consider this as defiant or a challenge as that is not how it is intended at all but more along the lines of 'let me know who to slap a C&D on'

Of course we will have some similar models as other sites because the pool of models in the very specific area that we push is a bit shallow, but the scenes are exclusive to us.


spaz

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

our best selling and 100% exclusive sites are;
Teen Sex Movs
Solo Teen Girls
Drunken Teen Orgies
They Didn't Know
If you see any sets on any of those sites that appear anywhere else I would appreciate you letting me know. Please do not consider this as defiant or a challenge as that is not how it is intended at all but more along the lines of 'let me know who to slap a C&D on'

Of course we will have some similar models as other sites because the pool of models in the very specific area that we push is a bit shallow, but the scenes are exclusive to us.

Not saying the scene of that blonde sucking that dick, in that dress and in this room isn't a 100% exclusive scene. And even if you have blonde, dick, dress and room under exclusive contract, to the surfer it's just a blonde sucking a dick.

To be truly exclusive you have to go down a different route. She has to be doing it in a way that's not on every teen blow job site. your article was touching on that and you indicated that you had been going this route for a long time. Then the sites just hit me as nothing special, nothing I had not seen on 1,000 other sites.

Think of a fantasy and work on it. Like Dogging, Bang Bus, Milf Hunter and a lot of others or go for quality/quantity like Alsscan, Sapphic, Teen Dreams.

I'm going to have a tour featuring every girl we have done two or more movies with. List all the girls, the number of movies, sets, solo, lesbian or boy girl and then a little about her, 18 or 21 year old student, nurse, lap dancer who loves long walks, her dog and sucking cock. This will hit the surfer in a cascade on the first page he sees. The next page will be the models page or the paysite interior.

Nothing special, nothing unique, just a lot of fair-good movies for $30. Because I never went the exclusive route I have 800 movies to put into a site, so do half and rotate the rest. Think like a surfer for a moment. 400 movies with 4 new ones every day. Or a site of 30, that give you a free pass to another site or three of 30 videos. 120 movies against 520, which one do you think wins?


As an industry we have largely gone down a rout of poor content, not a lot of it and any means we can think of to throw traffic at it.

Now the biggest topic on the boards are the surfer not willing to pay for it and preferring Torrent sites.

We need to go down the route your article points us to. Sites with character and personality.

[Adriaan]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We need to go down the route your article points us to. Sites with character and personality.

exactly, totally agree with you!

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

To be truly exclusive you have to go down a different route. She has to be doing it in a way that's not on every teen blow job site. your article was touching on that and you indicated that you had been going this route for a long time. Then the sites just hit me as nothing special, nothing I had not seen on 1,000 other sites.

Sorry for the delay in the response. Your comments generated discussions within our company because when we say we would love to get feedback on our sites we really do mean that. Whether it comes from one of our affiliates, a prospective affiliate, a customer or another program owner we take the time to examine what is being said to us and consider the necessary adjustments we might need to make.. So thank you very much for inspiring even more discussions within Royal Cash.

I have highlighted a small specific line of text in your earlier post because it is the only part of that reply that struck me as not right on the money.

I went back and re-read that article (that I wrote) twice because I was not sure where you got that from. The article was intended to address the different look of the models we use and have used for years. I don't know how the article gave the impression that you got. Our models are from Russia and the Ukraine and I was attempting to explain how different they look compared to many other 'teen sites'.

I agreed with the fantasy driven points you made quite a bit, however that is something we have relatively recently started with sites like;
Drunken Teen Orgies
They Didn't Know
so you can see we are already moving in the direction you pointed out. However your comments have honestly got us talking about different approaches we might be able to use to improve our overall program.

So please if you see anything else we could improve on I would encourage you to point it out. While a lot of sponsors would be fearful of criticism in public, we welcome it because it enables us to improve all aspects of our business model and it shows potential affiliates that we are responsive to suggestions.


spaz

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Panky

I don't know about you, but I sure don't look like I did when I was 18. Sure I was fully developed at 18, but my body began to change slightly in my early 20's and so on. All the article is saying is that there is a physical difference in many women from 18-22 and those women who are around 23-25 or so. It has nothing to do with making the girls appear to be younger than 18. The article simply talks about the true teen niche using girls that are 18-22 and look 18-22 and not trying to pass a 25 year old off as 18, because there is a difference in womens bodies. Most 25 year olds don't look like 18 year olds naturally. There are slight differences. We also tend to lose the innocence and naivety that many 18-22 year olds possess as we mature and become more wise to the world around us. Some women may look young, fresh, and vibrant, but you can't fake the innocence, naivety that many 18-22 year olds have.

Yeah guess your right... maybe I'm just getting old and weird...

I should scan my 1989 grad photo for ya'all. I was really cute. Big 80's hair and little chipmunk cheeks. (I was only 17 but fully clothed lol).

I looked very young but could still sneak into small town bars with an older guys and my older sisters ID. (they didnt even have photo ID drivers in saskatchewan back in 89 and we are the same height and eye color)

And I wore lots of makeup lol and a perfectly perky Ccup.

I though I was hot.

Then I went back to my 10 yr high school reunion... and all the guys were like HOLY FUCK you got HOTT!!!

Apparently I was NOT really hot in High school. LOL

20 year is coming up soon!


Sabby

[Sabby]

Womens body's change when they hit their 20's due to pregnacy or just getting fat.

I had my babies at age 20,21,and 23.

And remained on/off sickly (nicole richie like) skinny up to age 36.

and Now I got put on my meds for my bipolar disorder and I am gaining weight...

It all went to my tits. They were big before... Now They are absolutlely humongous.

And some to my ass.

I never had to watch what I eat before.


Sabby

[Sabby]

I remember though atually being a teen, I went out with older guys...

I thought it was pretty cool... nice cars... nice things... free beer...

And the older girls would say... yep they just cant score in their own league...


True Dat


Sabby

[tigermom]

Spablaz, since you asked for feedback

What bothers me as a potential affiliate are two things - the incest references in the tours (promoting one of these by mistake, would get me rejected in linklists where I have a reputation to keep as a good submitter) and the fact that you promote a cookie eraser which hurts all of your affiliates.

[spazlabz]

the incest references in the tours

Hi tigermom
Yes I like feedback, live off of it really because it is so helpful to me and our program. I am not sure where you saw the reference to incest on out tours. Please let me know where you saw it so that I can address it as quickly as possible. Our sites are not based on the incest fantasy and if it is implied on a tour it was either a mistake or on an old (over a year old) tour


Thanks

Oh, about Eraser.. we are examining how that plays into our business model.


spaz

[tigermom]

Hmmmmm looking at it again, maybe it's not incestual per se. Just a mention of daughter and dad but the sex isn't between them. Since it's a textarea box with the only sentence showing: "Harry's daughter really needs to keep an eye on her dad" it can be confusing.

It's the first scene on the tour of seducedangel.com.

Hope this helps

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by tigermom

Hmmmmm looking at it again, maybe it's not incestual per se. Just a mention of daughter and dad but the sex isn't between them. Since it's a textarea box with the only sentence showing: "Harry's daughter really needs to keep an eye on her dad" it can be confusing.

It's the first scene on the tour of seducedangel.com.

Hope this helps

Whew! Yeah, I know exactly which set you are referring to and since I write all the new text we use I was worried I had made a mistake... a BIG mistake

I did check with the owner of our program about the Eraser software. This has been discussed internally on more then one occasion. We are releasing a new version of our affiliate program very soon and when we do that; the software will be gone. If it makes everyone feel better.... no one is promoting it any way LOL


spaz