IF you caught a program shaving or stealing your joins.

[Dino Cortez]

And tell their mom.

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by fresh

Fuck that. How many times more you will bash Eastern Europe without knowing any facts, it was proven that you like talking from your imagination. I am sick of that and sick of you cheating bastard

Yeah I am mad lol

I can post some stats that are still tracking that will show extasycams still hasn't paid me after over a year. It's about $600 and If I sed them an email they will give some excuse like they always do and I didn't say all Eastern European programs are bad. It's just that if you look at the track record of a lot of them you should check them all out before you promote them.

You also have people like asianstreetmeat operating out of SE asia that have fucked people. Just do a search of the word webmaster and asianstreetmeat and you will see.

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

I can post some stats that are still tracking that will show extasycams still hasn't paid me after over a year. It's about $600 and If I sed them an email they will give some excuse like they always do and I didn't say all Eastern European programs are bad. It's just that if you look at the track record of a lot of them you should check them all out before you promote them.

You also have people like asianstreetmeat operating out of SE asia that have fucked people. Just do a search of the word webmaster and asianstreetmeat and you will see.

Just as many if not more north american people have fucked people over.

You have AFF in your sig, and you say you'd never associate with someone who steals... They were one of the largest zango buyers for a long period of time...

How's that work exactly?

[_LB_]

I voted remove links and let people know.

Though thats only if you actually caught them. 9 out of 10 times sponsors are called out for shaving theres not a scrap of proof and its either the webmaster's lack of knowledge, or just a 'feeling'.

I have only ever caught 1 sponsor shaving outright, and that was silvercash not crediting my referral joins several years back. I was able to get sales data from my only referral (krusty) and only around 50% of the joins were being credited to me Emailed them and they credited the missing refs.

[PornFactory]

Remove links and let others know

[ScreaM]

Wonder who are the 2 people that voted for Pull links find a new sponsor and go about your day like nothing happen.

[Chimera]

remove their links and pass it through the newbie underground

[FeTiShLaDy]

if that happens to me, i'll remove the links and let others know.

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by _LB_

I voted remove links and let people know.

Though thats only if you actually caught them. 9 out of 10 times sponsors are called out for shaving theres not a scrap of proof and its either the webmaster's lack of knowledge, or just a 'feeling'.

I have only ever caught 1 sponsor shaving outright, and that was silvercash not crediting my referral joins several years back. I was able to get sales data from my only referral (krusty) and only around 50% of the joins were being credited to me Emailed them and they credited the missing refs.

LB a lot of sponsors got a get out of jail free card a few years ago.



MPA2 had a built in shave module, and at one time many many sponsors were using MPA2. When NATS launched they did their little attack on Mansion and put their "NATS DON'T SHAVE" marketing campaign into place.

Everyone went after MPA2, and no one spoke about the programs who used MPA2.

Those programs quietly switched over to NATS and acted like nothing ever happened.

I always found it odd that MPA2 tool all the heat, when they launched their script they were a series of programmers building a custom easy to use system to fulfill the needs of the program owners. They had requests to have something that would limit the amount of joins sent and the amount of joins shown. They made that feature by request of program owners.

I just always found it funny that people who used MPA2 were never questioned more.

[matuag]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

You also have people like asianstreetmeat operating out of SE asia that have fucked people. Just do a search of the word webmaster and asianstreetmeat and you will see.

wonder what I would get if I typed in "content theft" and "mikeskinner" in search.

[ScreaM]

^^^^

[_LB_]

Originally Posted by VG.Content

LB a lot of sponsors got a get out of jail free card a few years ago.



MPA2 had a built in shave module, and at one time many many sponsors were using MPA2. When NATS launched they did their little attack on Mansion and put their "NATS DON'T SHAVE" marketing campaign into place.

Everyone went after MPA2, and no one spoke about the programs who used MPA2.

Those programs quietly switched over to NATS and acted like nothing ever happened.

I always found it odd that MPA2 tool all the heat, when they launched their script they were a series of programmers building a custom easy to use system to fulfill the needs of the program owners. They had requests to have something that would limit the amount of joins sent and the amount of joins shown. They made that feature by request of program owners.

I just always found it funny that people who used MPA2 were never questioned more.

Mpa2 was a great script. Just because it has a shave module doesn't mean everyone used it.

Now there are more choices, but back then mpa2 was a leader even though it came with questionable modules. Software companies only design for their clients needs

[fresh]

Originally Posted by ScreaM

Wonder who are the 2 people that voted for Pull links find a new sponsor and go about your day like nothing happen.

now 5 of them

[ting_tong]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

You also have people like asianstreetmeat operating out of SE asia that have fucked people. Just do a search of the word webmaster and asianstreetmeat and you will see.

The program is run by a guy from ireland, and how do you expect them to run a affiliate program in porn withouth fucking people??

[flip]

I'd start a poll on Netpond and await annoninting (sic lol) into the I'm a great guy Netpond club...

Then I'd fantasise about what I should have said in divorce court...

Next step - find a hairy hippy rich hot woman and settle down with a life of great sex and choice red wine...

Grow a goatee even though my stubble is grey...

Then I'd bug GTP Dave with pm's saying UPDATE UPDATE - whilst sobbing to my bank manager about awful things on t'intraweb...

Then I'd sell my pc and become a shoe salesman with a goatee in Cape Cod - or summat

Zango bad - shaving bad - er - next

[VG.Content]

Originally Posted by _LB_

Mpa2 was a great script. Just because it has a shave module doesn't mean everyone used it.

Now there are more choices, but back then mpa2 was a leader even though it came with questionable modules. Software companies only design for their clients needs

Yes mpa2 and mpa3 was a good script. But, what I was saying is they created that shave module for programs because they requested it.

Was everyone that used mpa2 shaving hell no, were some god damn right.

What I am saying is it was never called into question who they were.

Get out of jail free

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by ting_tong

The program is run by a guy from ireland, and how do you expect them to run a affiliate program in porn withouth fucking people??

That is a good point. This is the porn industry and where not baking cookies here. The whole industry was built on screwing people one way or another. Like when you would go rent an adult movie in the 80's and 90's only to get it home and find that the models on the cover where not all in the film. I think these days sponsors are starting to realize how hard it is to screw their affiliates but there are still people out there willing to do it. You can never expect to have complete honesty from every sponsor just like you can't expect it from everyone you meet in the business world as a whole. Hopefully you are promoting enough sponsors over all your sites that you don't have to worry to much about it and can concentrate on building

[thomasbyers]

Originally Posted by flip

I'd start a poll on Netpond and await annoninting (sic lol) into the I'm a great guy Netpond club...

Then I'd fantasise about what I should have said in divorce court...

Next step - find a hairy hippy rich hot woman and settle down with a life of great sex and choice red wine...

Grow a goatee even though my stubble is grey...

Then I'd bug GTP Dave with pm's saying UPDATE UPDATE - whilst sobbing to my bank manager about awful things on t'intraweb...

Then I'd sell my pc and become a shoe salesman with a goatee in Cape Cod - or summat

Zango bad - shaving bad - er - next

Flip your something else indeed. I needed that post at this time of the night. lol

[ScreaM]

Originally Posted by flip

(sic lol)

Ok now what does "sic" mean?

[Dino Cortez]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

..The whole industry was built on screwing people one way or another... You can never expect to have complete honesty from every sponsor just like you can't expect it from everyone you meet in the