Can anyone explain why this guys site shows up when I search my url?

[mikesinner]

What's up with this? Why is my thumblogger site showing up on this guys page?
http://www.google.com/search?rls=GGL...=Google+Search

[pam]

Yes, it's called black hat spamming.

[erots]

You are just paranoid

[PornFactory]

Yup, what pam said... sometimes they can surprise you very much...

[Nicky]

black hat spamming? first I hear of it....

[ScreaM]

Originally Posted by Nicky

black hat spamming? first I hear of it....

I've heard of that before but this is the first time I'm actually seeing an example of it.

[mikesinner]

That TB site is only a week old so he must have got me before I even got picked by the SE's. Still haven't had 1 single SE hit yet. It will be a pain in the ass if I have to take it down and put it on another TB url.

[mikesinner]

Also it switches to different sites when I click on it but I can't tell if he's taking my traffic

[tolik]

usual stuff. it posted urls as text but them does not linked to your site.

[rvince]

It can also be called "If you're using thumblogger or any funky free hosting system you're commiting suicide SEO-wise.".

[Namm]

Originally Posted by rvince

It can also be called "If you're using thumblogger or any funky free hosting system you're commiting suicide SEO-wise.".

thats not true, I have a few splogs that get great seo traffic, as do TONS of other people on these boards.

[samsun]

Black Hat spamming sux! It is the first time that I have seen it also...I hate people that do this type of stuff

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by rvince

It can also be called "If you're using thumblogger or any funky free hosting system you're commiting suicide SEO-wise.".

I have TB sites that get close to 1000 SE hits a day and some are never updated so that really isn't true.

[mikesinner]

How do I find out who his host is?

[Sven800]

can you report this to google, since it is SEO spamming?

(or am I missing something?)

[pam]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

How do I find out who his host is?

You're joking, right?

[Varzi Network]

I nailed one of these to the wall the other day they are all of Chinese origin this one being musicsitesalarm.cn and using the same frames. The one targeting your site is a little better made then the last one and appears to have been around much longer.

This is what just the results from one site and they have many more. If you click the links in the listings you will get a VIRUS so be forewarned.
http://www.google.com/search?q=music...G=Search&hl=en

The baxet.com java below is what they are using for your site along with rel="nofollow" to prevent Googlebot from crawling to far. This also prevent anyone else from being able to gain link popularity off their work. The setup allows them to post on blogs and later google ends up crawling your site in their frame directly. Either way google will crawl you in the frame once they decide to target you but comment spamming speeds up the process.

This one enjoys targeting AOLquery.com and AOLstalker.com probably due to lack of Captcha.

Bloggers should definitely take note on this one.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/...ment-spam.html

[HTML]
<SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--
document.write('<****** src="http://baxet.com/in.cgi?nine" id="new" height="1500" width="100%" scrolling="auto" name="redir"></******>');
// -->
</SCRIPT>
<****** id=new name=redir src="http://baxet.com/in.cgi?nine" width="100%"
height=1500></******>
SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--
document.write('<****** height="0" width="0" scrolling="no"/>');
// -->
</SCRIPT>
[/HTML]

Its a fairly large operation behind this beast stealing tons of keywords IMHO and all domains have fake whois or private info. So its not to hard to shut them down if you have the time starting with the registrars. Moving on to the Chinese registry since this stuff is illegal in China. Then hit up the hosting company and if they give you a hard time go to the upstream. Let Google know if they host takes action too so they can punish hosts known to support these asshats.

The low down on how it works.

The script below allows them to generate keywords which that ****** in particular seems to be aiming for the term anal. Below is a string i got from calling the script directly from google. No keyword was set as the string was injected directly stripping off the value. The default keyword is dependant on the number after the in.cgi?6 which is predefined as porn and the in.cgi?8 is defined with the term money. The one they used for another victims site was in.cgi?26 which is for the term anal.

Part of a broken script output here.

[HTML]window.location=("http://razryl.com/in.cgi?8&group=xz&seoref="+encodeURIComponent(docu ment.referrer)+ "¶meter=$keyword&se=$se&ur=1&HTTP_REFERER="+en code URIComponent(document.URL)+"&default_keyword=money ");[/HTML]

Actual URL that would be use for the term money

[HTML]http://razryl.com/in.cgi?8&seoref=http://www.google.com/search?q=razryl.com&hl=en&start=10&sa=N&parameter= $keyword&se=$se&ur=1&HTTP_REFERER=http://www.somesite.com/somepage.html&default_keyword=money[/HTML]

This is the java used to create the i-[HTML]frame on another site which generates spam on the fly.

[HTML]
**********
var r = document.referrer, q;
if (((q=r.indexOf("?"+'q'+"="))!=-1||(q=r.indexOf("&"+'q'+"="))!=-1)) {
Keyword = r.substring(q+3).split("&")[0];
Feed = 'http://razryl.com/in.cgi?2&parameter=' + Keyword;
} else { Feed = 'http://razryl.com/in.cgi?2'; }
document.body.innerHTML = '<****** src="'+Feed+'" border=0 style="position: absolute; left: 0px; top: 0px; height: 100%; width: 102%; padding: 0em; background-color: #FFFFFF; border: 0" align=center></******>';
[/HTML]

The final output Google will see is pure spam and contains hundreds of keywords with links to sites matching these terms which makes it appear legit. Many other sites are also doing this and you will find they are all funneling from Chinese domains. The person(s) behind this are not chinese and also not believed to be from the US either.

I have an idea who might be behind this because he is very capable of finding ways to beat Google and has done similar things with spamming logs in the past. I just cannot say at this time without doing some digging but he is in the Netherlands and sells SEO services too which fits the profile.

FYI the more people who abuse this the quicker Google will take action so ask yourself if its really worth the risk.

[facialfreak]

Originally Posted by pam

Yes, it's called black hat spamming.

Ummm .. yes and no -- the answer is really two parts.

Firstly ... the sites listed have hot-linked video samples from your site (do a view source -- .htaccess can correct that problem ...)

And secondly ... when you used HYPHENATED domain names or file names, search engines see the words separately ... so because these sites have similar words, they are going to show in your results ...

If you look in the top right corner of the results page, you will see the individual words that google is using in the search ...

[samsun]

Great post Varzi - thanks for the info and the time spent finding it

[pam]

I've got several on .cn domains who are spamming the hell out of my blogs, review sites, etc. I had to setup something in Apache to block it. They never get listed or posted, but it's a pain in the butt sometimes to have to remove.