do you own your own traffic?

[mojoman]

for example if a sponsor release site: xxxbabes.com for example, and you buy the domain babesxxx.com.

is it really your own traffic? your traffic will be mainly just confused surfers, and so you're effectively stealing traffic from the sponsor / site owner. whereas if you send traffic to xxxbabes.com from mypornosite.com or something, then that's more your own traffic because it's from a site with no direct relation to the name of the site.

what do you think?

[Sven800]

most of my domains are nowhere close to a sponsor domain name, so I guess i own my own traffic, even though it is pitifully little at this point.

[Varzi Network]

Well many sponsors will embrace the idea if you are promoting their sites.

What would Netpond think about someone buying netpond.info and telling people how great this place is?

[Blinky]

I think that still your traffic, unless the sponsors tries legal action to get the domain from you.

I'm a bit confused by the term 'owning your traffic' because on the internet surely only bookmarkers are truly owned traffic because any other traffic comes from elsewhere whether it is bought, traded, etc.

[PornFactory]

First of all, I think that you're not right on this one.. why? Because if I buy that domain, it's only my domain and all traffic in mine... on the other side, sponsor who release website xxxbabes.com should buy babesxxx.com too and also .net and other tlds... that way it's sure that they won't losing their traffic and let it to affiliates to take commissions...

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by PornFactory

on the other side, sponsor who release website xxxbabes.com should buy babesxxx.com too and also .net and other tlds...

You can only spend so much before it starts getting a bit ridiculous. Like with .tv who sets whatever prices they feel they can get. There was a sponsor who ran sluts.tv and they charge him $5k a year. Yet you can get myxxxsite.com for much less but very few would develop a paysite on such a name. Once they know you have traffic built up on a popular name they can force you to may more on the renewal also.

When i ran my own sponsor program we grabbed the .com and the .net but left the .org alone. We simply used the .net for partner galleries which gave us more control when dealing with 404 issues and such. Something we never thought about at that time would have been making the root of the .net into a TGP for affiliates to promote. So just holding names to keep them away from others might make you much less rather then letting affiliates make better use of them to promote you.

[GTP Dave]

hmmm Mojo I think you are not telling us the full story....
I am guessing that you bought a typo or similiar and feeling the water to see where you stand....
Best bet to avoid legal action and headaches is just to promote that sponsor... hands down.

[Head Boy]

well xxxbabes is fairly general, so I wouldn't use that as a good example. I don't agree that the sponsors "owns" the traffic either. What I do think is that if you are using the sponsors branding and advertising expense to advantage your site, then you should work with the sponsor to the advantage of both of you. Also I believe that you shouldn't promote competing sponsors on that site. It's not just a moral thing, it makes sense to promote the product that the surfer is looking for. You can also have some trademark issues - look at the guy who deliberately tried to rip off Tesco.

Now what happens if the sponsor builds a site with the hyphenated name, and you own the non-hyphen, or you pre-own some other related name. I was quite disappointed when "aga uncovered" was chosen as the site name - I believe that the first choice of name was "hard bitches uncovered", and I own HardBitches.com

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by GTP Dave

hmmm Mojo I think you are not telling us the full story....
I am guessing that you bought a typo or similiar and feeling the water to see where you stand....
Best bet to avoid legal action and headaches is just to promote that sponsor... hands down.

or read the domain forum - we've had a few discussions about this.

[hardcoreblogger]

traffic is traffic and there are many ways that affiliates capture search engine traffic for paysite names, nothing wrong with that?

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

traffic is traffic and there are many ways that affiliates capture search engine traffic for paysite names, nothing wrong with that?

You really believe its fair to take that traffic elsewere?

Lets bring up solo models for example. I create a brand Candy Cunt which everyone is raving about her and this is sure to be a winner. Now some non affiliated webmaster registers hotcandycunt.com cutecandycunt.com candycuntsex.com and starts getting traffic which is being sent to Nubiles. He figures the exposure to this developed brand i created will bring him lots of easy traffic.

This scenario actually happened with Tawnee Stone so as dumb as it may seem it was a big problem for LightSpeed. They had lots of webmasters and competitors trying to cash in on the sensation they created. Its about the same as registering thehun.biz and trying to profit on another persons hard work. In some situations its hard to avoid with common terms like sexy or pornstar but doing it deliberately to steal search terms from a sponsors brand name is unethical.

[Head Boy]

Not only is it unethical, but it probably isn't good business sense. If a guy is looking for "Candy Cunt", then he probably isn't a member of her site, but is open to you sales pitch. Trying to sell him a membership of "Poxy Pussy" instead is probably an uphill struggle, and won't make you as much money.

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by Varzi Network

You really believe its fair to take that traffic elsewere?

Lets bring up solo models for example. I create a brand Candy Cunt which everyone is raving about her and this is sure to be a winner. Now some non affiliated webmaster registers hotcandycunt.com cutecandycunt.com candycuntsex.com and starts getting traffic which is being sent to Nubiles. He figures the exposure to this developed brand i created will bring him lots of easy traffic.

This scenario actually happened with Tawnee Stone so as dumb as it may seem it was a big problem for LightSpeed. They had lots of webmasters and competitors trying to cash in on the sensation they created. Its about the same as registering thehun.biz and trying to profit on another persons hard work. In some situations its hard to avoid with common terms like sexy or pornstar but doing it deliberately to steal search terms from a sponsors brand name is unethical.

i didn't mean to take the traffic elsewhere, was just talking about capturing SE traffic or generic typein's of a paysite and promote that same paysite. but when you create a strong brand you will always have some cheapscates trying to benefit from it on the web. you can also regard it as a compliment to what you've achieved in building the brand.

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by hardcoreblogger

cheapscates trying to benefit from it on the web. you can also regard it as a compliment

Yes the first part is to be expected that's why lawyers drive nice cars and live in big houses. As for the second part complements simply wont pay for the cost of producing a quality site.

[tolik]

person who purashed domain own traffic on this domain. i does not see anything wrong with this - otherwise these domains will be does not avaiable for registration.

about hun - he have .com .net domains pointed to same site.

about this - for example if a sponsor release site: xxxbabes.com for example, and you buy the domain babesxxx.com. - think here nothing wrong with this.

also if you register domain name similar to paysite domain - best of all will be set some fpa on this domain and some texts for get se traffic - plus this way possible problems with original domain owners will be solved since you will send them some traffic/sales.