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Old 10-24-2007, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How legal is xvideos.com?

The website in question is www.xvideos.com

They have a ton of full length videos posted but are promoting programs through the full length movies. Does this mean they have deals in place to promote and distribute the full length content? And does it mean that affiliates can embed there videos and do the same thing?

On my site im trying to keep embed videos below 5minutes in length but when your competiting for traffic with these guys somehow im not going to win by "playing fair"

What does everyone think? and whats the legal standpoint on this?

ohhh... here is a link to a few full length movies:

http://www.xvideos.com/video3755/Lad...Pool_Threesome
http://www.xvideos.com/video3564/lau...t_ass_anal_cum
http://www.xvideos.com/video4509/Mar...rful_anal_slut
http://www.xvideos.com/video2975/MikeinBrazil-Popira3
http://www.xvideos.com/video4624/Gig...ack_cock_whore
http://www.xvideos.com/video3819/Gianna_Michaels
http://www.xvideos.com/video1321/Hal...anal_action%29

There are hundreds more...

The site is huge, growing daily: http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...ww.xvideos.com
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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bump!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There are thousands of sites just like (link dumps) that sponsors allow some of the content to be used and much of it is pirated.
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nice to see everyone cares. lol.
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Everyone does care, but the ones who have to take action are the content owners, if they're passive about it there's not much a third party can do.
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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common

theres lots of this kinda stuff going on, growing quickly and attracting the non paying traffic ,altho exposure is exposure.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This site is owned and opperated by xnxx.com

If you look xnxx.com is one of the largest tgp's on the net. They are ranked around 200 on alexa
http://alexa.com/search?q=xnxx.com&x=0&y=0

If you click on any video on the main page it has a huge HPA with linking code to the program.

Click the video it matches that site.

Knowing the size of the traffic xnxx owns and controls I feel it's safe to say this site is fully legal, and has the blessing of the sponsors.

This is someone thinking outside of the box and making a site based on all the ones that steal, but is most likely doing it with the support of the sponsors.

I feel it's safe to say this site is done without stealing any content.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I find it odd to give so much for free!
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Ranked around 200 on Alexa... Damn!
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I find it odd to give so much for free!
Nothing is free.

It's business.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It is killing the business
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ranked around 200 on Alexa... Damn!
Well don't forget there are ways Alexa can be manipulated. I'm sure VG is just using it as an example, as you can use it as a guide, (that's a whole other thread) just don't make the mistake of determining site worth just based on that as a ranking (I used to do that when I was naive lol).
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:21 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It is killing the business
This is not killing the business, his site is blessed by the sponsor.

He's not stealing content and hoping to make money off AFF joins.

He is saying who the video is from.

A lot different from a theft site.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:25 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well don't forget there are ways Alexa can be manipulated. I'm sure VG is just using it as an example, as you can use it as a guide, (that's a whole other thread) just don't make the mistake of determining site worth just based on that as a ranking (I used to do that when I was naive lol).
Yes with some hitbots and other tools you can manipulate alexa. But, anyone who knows old school tgp's knows that xxnx is a huge one, it has been for years.

It's been online since like 2000 or early 01 if I remember correctly, and it's been in the top 2000 sites on alexa since late 2002. There is no way someone can maintain that high up on alexa and be fake for 5 years. Makes zero sense.

Search around you'll see xnxx is a huge site.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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This is not killing the business, his site is blessed by the sponsor.

He's not stealing content and hoping to make money off AFF joins.

He is saying who the video is from.

A lot different from a theft site.
Everyone was screaming about stolen content, when they in truth were upset by lost sign ups. It is only time before the industry is nothing but free porn except in the very obscure niches, or very low price porn. The problem of getting new content will hit in abot 50 years. </sarcasm>

Surfer needs 20 minutes to jerk off, cost on BW is $0.02 or maybe 3 cents.
Paysites need him to spend $20 to $50 to pay for the traffic system.
Anyone else see the fatal flaw?
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yes with some hitbots and other tools you can manipulate alexa. But, anyone who knows old school tgp's knows that xxnx is a huge one, it has been for years.

It's been online since like 2000 or early 01 if I remember correctly, and it's been in the top 2000 sites on alexa since late 2002. There is no way someone can maintain that high up on alexa and be fake for 5 years. Makes zero sense.

Search around you'll see xnxx is a huge site.
VG, I can't remember everything, I don't do that stuff anymore, that's what employees are for HAHA! I was just pointing out the Alexa factor more than anything as so many people ooh and awww over Alexa rankings, because thy don't realize they can be manipulated, but as I stated earlier that's a whole other thread. But I do understand what you're saying about faking it for 5 years.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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VG, I can't remember everything, I don't do that stuff anymore, that's what employees are for HAHA! I was just pointing out the Alexa factor more than anything as so many people ooh and awww over Alexa rankings, because thy don't realize they can be manipulated, but as I stated earlier that's a whole other thread. But I do understand what you're saying about faking it for 5 years.
Oh I understand ma'am, I was just putting a reply to you so people understood the size of his network
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Everyone was screaming about stolen content, when they in truth were upset by lost sign ups. It is only time before the industry is nothing but free porn except in the very obscure niches, or very low price porn. The problem of getting new content will hit in abot 50 years. </sarcasm>

Surfer needs 20 minutes to jerk off, cost on BW is $0.02 or maybe 3 cents.
Paysites need him to spend $20 to $50 to pay for the traffic system.
Anyone else see the fatal flaw?
You mine as well shut down your affiliate program then.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:40 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Surfer needs 20 minutes to jerk off, cost on BW is $0.02 or maybe 3 cents. Paysites need him to spend $20 to $50 to pay for the traffic system. Anyone else see the fatal flaw?
Link Dumps and Tubes are traffic pumps if used properly. Some people buy traffic others have the traffic and monetize it. I did not look all that hard at the site but it looked like a dump to me.

Those types of sites are like Playing roulette you might find a high quality 5 min video or a really shitty 20 second clip. Very much like the old heavy TGP skim and CJ days. But for the most part it creates an illusion that you get so much for nothing while getting sucked in and watning to pay for more.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:42 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Oh I understand ma'am, I was just putting a reply to you so people understood the size of his network
oh ok I gotcha! And I'm giving you a hint, hint, nudge, nudge for a new thread topic.
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