Would you embed my videos if a popup comes up....

Banged.TV · 10-31-2007, 12:04 AM

Ok.... people leeching my videos cost me money. I dont think there is a way that i could remain profitable by having an embed player without a popup on it...

Here is an example of an embed with a popup: http://www.allhotgirls.net/gallery/5...is_Cock_video/

I have tried to make an incentive by offering a a toplist to send traffic back to those that embed my clips on there websites / blogs.

What do you guys think? Is there a way i can change it so lots of people can embed but i can also make money from the traffic... What do you think? Let me know. There must be a middle ground where i provide a service to people and they like it but i also make money... its impossible for sites like pornotube to be making money from there embed players.

_LB_ · 10-31-2007, 12:17 AM

Nope.

I would happily allow a watermark (similar to what we do on wanktube) ... but never a popup. A watermark would get between .1-.01% of your traffic (tiny), though a popup would get upwards of 3-5% and piss off surfers.

Banged.TV · 10-31-2007, 12:37 AM

popup gets around 20% so far.
watermark gets around 0.5%
Sponsor link gets around 0.1%

1% for a watermark. It costs me 15 meg for a 3min video and 5meg for a 1minute video. Most people embed the 3minute ones... it means im using approx 1.5 gig per unique. Its never gonna work. Popup is the only way i cannot loose money. And i dont have aebn deep pockets.

_LB_ · 10-31-2007, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banged.TV

popup gets around 20% so far.
watermark gets around 0.5%
Sponsor link gets around 0.1%

1% for a watermark. It costs me 15 meg for a 3min video and 5meg for a 1minute video. Most people embed the 3minute ones... it means im using approx 1.5 gig per unique. Its never gonna work. Popup is the only way i cannot loose money. And i dont have aebn deep pockets.

Sorry ... you asked the question whether I would use it which I answered

If you asked the question whether it would be viable, then you would have got a totally different answer

I agree ... its a fine line to walk.

nottslad · 10-31-2007, 12:48 AM

Even though my pop up blocker blocked (I think) two pop ups - (it made the noise twice) I would not use your vids for content alone even with or without pops.

There are now a ton of sponsors that provide flash videos hosted by themselves that carry direct referrals on click thrus, why would I need your vids to flesh out my site? Sorry!

That said, if you want webmasters to submit vids and use the embeds then you need to provide a facility for them to add their link to the vid on your site that includes a referral id somewhere. Otherwise we will just use other tube sites that allow that or we'll go direct with sponsor tools.

nottslad · 10-31-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banged.TV

It costs me 15 meg for a 3min video and 5meg for a 1minute video.

I dont mean to be facetious, but you could always disable hotlinking.

Banged.TV · 10-31-2007, 01:05 AM

Your not understanding me here.... If i have the site getting 100k daily uniques im not letting people upload a video and use there own sponsor urls inside the video because they will get to steal my bandwidth, steal my sales from the traffic on my site. There would be no way for that to even break even. I would be bankrupt.

Sponsor flash videos are junk. They are 20 seconds long much like FHG clips. I have yet to seen a decent flash video from any sponsor. Sure they will convert good if u have straight traffic from google but if ur surfer has been around the mill they will leave ur site.

I dont see how i can compete with megarotic style tube sites because i dont have the money to stream these videos for free. I guess i will leave it how it is or tweak it a little so that it still pops when user clicks again after video has started an not when they play button is clicked.

Why do tons of people embed pornotube videos, megarotic videos, xtube videos... because its free hosting. But i guess i cant afford to do that so im pretty much fucked. I guess the next step will be paying webmasters to embed my movies....

Fuck knows... Its a cruel world we live in. Hard to make a break.

Banged.TV · 10-31-2007, 01:07 AM

anyone want 1/10th of a cent for each visitor they send me.

nottslad · 10-31-2007, 01:30 AM

Honestly, I do think I get it

If you're getting 100K a day or 1 a day what use is that to us WM's unless we have a way of making sales from it.

You say that the sponsor flash videos are not great but, would we rather use a sponsor video that converts badly or a video that doesn't convert at all and gives pops? There are more and more sponsor hosted flash vids coming out and that's going to continue and increase.

If you're looking for surfers to use your embeds on forums and then spread virally via other non webmaster avenues then that may do alright. But if you're looking at getting WM's to use them on their own sites to add content I dont think it's gonna work.. maybe a year ago it would.

Most wm's who use tube sites to promote will splice together 3 or 4 20 sec clips to make a minute or so, add a beginning and end splash page (a watermark if the sponsor allows it) and then they'll get some type ins from the splash page and for those tube sites that facilitate it a direct link either to the sponsor or their site.

It's well known that tube sites are huge bandwidth suckers, and many cant cover costs.. but if they are going to do so they need to get webmasters on board... imho

_LB_ · 10-31-2007, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banged.TV

Your not understanding me here.... If i have the site getting 100k daily uniques im not letting people upload a video and use there own sponsor urls inside the video because they will get to steal my bandwidth, steal my sales from the traffic on my site. There would be no way for that to even break even. I would be bankrupt.

Sponsor flash videos are junk. They are 20 seconds long much like FHG clips. I have yet to seen a decent flash video from any sponsor. Sure they will convert good if u have straight traffic from google but if ur surfer has been around the mill they will leave ur site.

I dont see how i can compete with megarotic style tube sites because i dont have the money to stream these videos for free. I guess i will leave it how it is or tweak it a little so that it still pops when user clicks again after video has started an not when they play button is clicked.

Why do tons of people embed pornotube videos, megarotic videos, xtube videos... because its free hosting. But i guess i cant afford to do that so im pretty much fucked. I guess the next step will be paying webmasters to embed my movies....

Fuck knows... Its a cruel world we live in. Hard to make a break.

Well I don't know that you need to pay wm's to embed your videos, we don't do that and have a huge number of wm's embedding our videos for the free hosting and video streaming on their sites. We just ask for a linkback somewhere decent on their site, and they can go burning our bw

Wanktube just about breaks even, and isn't there to make money. Its there to feed projects we have. Maybe you should be thinking of your site the same way .. I know pornotube and several others make their money not on the tube site but off it.

Banged.TV · 10-31-2007, 01:38 AM

Also, id like to say i have a few 100k+ traffic plugs going on my site in the next 48 hours. It might be worth joining my toplist and sending me a few hits. u could see 10x return. http://www.banged.tv/trade_signup.php

Banged.TV · 10-31-2007, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _LB_

Well I don't know that you need to pay wm's to embed your videos, we don't do that and have a huge number of wm's embedding our videos for the free hosting and video streaming on their sites. We just ask for a linkback somewhere decent on their site, and they can go burning our bw

Wanktube just about breaks even, and isn't there to make money. Its there to feed projects we have. Maybe you should be thinking of your site the same way .. I know pornotube and several others make their money not on the tube site but off it.

U speak alot of truth.

ReyRey · 10-31-2007, 03:29 AM

I dont own a tube site but if I did I would use it as LB said and take that traffic and feed it to other projects and from those projects try to make the sale(s). I would use that traffic as feeder traffic to build some more tgp/mgp's, a link list, a new blog, or directory.

Now back to your original question. I would not use your embedded videos on my site if they had any type of pop ups or pop unders. Why would I use those when I could use other sites embedded videos that have no pop ups or pop under ads.

ReyRey

hardcoreblogger · 10-31-2007, 04:14 AM

nope, i wouldn't do it.

Blinky · 10-31-2007, 05:34 AM

I wouldn't embed videos that used a popup at all.

I understand we'd be using your bandwidth, but it's not worth it for the annoyance to our surfers IMHO. I totally accept links in the videos etc.

Varzi Network · 10-31-2007, 09:06 AM

If you were smart you would use your video site to shuffle some of your visitors off to a TGP or something. Get them away from the high bandwidth content if its not profitable for you. Use the video site as an lure and make it a wee bit unfriendly after the second video or something. Many dump sites with 15-30 min clips will get you in the door let you eat and then push you towards an Video site with those 15 sec clips.

There are many things you could do but you need to do your homework. Start by visiting Camlestyle.com and take notes on what you find. Some are 30 sec and others are 30 min. It's a game of roulette and when surfers get tired of the games they convert into customers.

10-31-2007, 12:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Banged.TV I caught Jayman looking at my bottom! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 79 Points: -50	Would you embed my videos if a popup comes up.... Ok.... people leeching my videos cost me money. I dont think there is a way that i could remain profitable by having an embed player without a popup on it... Here is an example of an embed with a popup: http://www.allhotgirls.net/gallery/5...is_Cock_video/ I have tried to make an incentive by offering a a toplist to send traffic back to those that embed my clips on there websites / blogs. What do you guys think? Is there a way i can change it so lots of people can embed but i can also make money from the traffic... What do you think? Let me know. There must be a middle ground where i provide a service to people and they like it but i also make money... its impossible for sites like pornotube to be making money from there embed players.

10-31-2007, 12:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
nottslad Pot Noodles in Paradise Join Date: May 2006 Location: QR, Mexico Posts: 1,377 Points: 60	Even though my pop up blocker blocked (I think) two pop ups - (it made the noise twice) I would not use your vids for content alone even with or without pops. There are now a ton of sponsors that provide flash videos hosted by themselves that carry direct referrals on click thrus, why would I need your vids to flesh out my site? Sorry! That said, if you want webmasters to submit vids and use the embeds then you need to provide a facility for them to add their link to the vid on your site that includes a referral id somewhere. Otherwise we will just use other tube sites that allow that or we'll go direct with sponsor tools. __________________

10-31-2007, 01:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
nottslad Pot Noodles in Paradise Join Date: May 2006 Location: QR, Mexico Posts: 1,377 Points: 60	Honestly, I do think I get it If you're getting 100K a day or 1 a day what use is that to us WM's unless we have a way of making sales from it. You say that the sponsor flash videos are not great but, would we rather use a sponsor video that converts badly or a video that doesn't convert at all and gives pops? There are more and more sponsor hosted flash vids coming out and that's going to continue and increase. If you're looking for surfers to use your embeds on forums and then spread virally via other non webmaster avenues then that may do alright. But if you're looking at getting WM's to use them on their own sites to add content I dont think it's gonna work.. maybe a year ago it would. Most wm's who use tube sites to promote will splice together 3 or 4 20 sec clips to make a minute or so, add a beginning and end splash page (a watermark if the sponsor allows it) and then they'll get some type ins from the splash page and for those tube sites that facilitate it a direct link either to the sponsor or their site. It's well known that tube sites are huge bandwidth suckers, and many cant cover costs.. but if they are going to do so they need to get webmasters on board... imho __________________

10-31-2007, 03:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
ReyRey Da Bears!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,559 Points: 180	I dont own a tube site but if I did I would use it as LB said and take that traffic and feed it to other projects and from those projects try to make the sale(s). I would use that traffic as feeder traffic to build some more tgp/mgp's, a link list, a new blog, or directory. Now back to your original question. I would not use your embedded videos on my site if they had any type of pop ups or pop unders. Why would I use those when I could use other sites embedded videos that have no pop ups or pop under ads. ReyRey __________________ Buy Top Rate Traffic Here \|Great PPC Sponsor \| Porn Movies

10-31-2007, 04:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
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10-31-2007, 12:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Banged.TV I caught Jayman looking at my bottom! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 79 Points: -50	popup gets around 20% so far. watermark gets around 0.5% Sponsor link gets around 0.1% 1% for a watermark. It costs me 15 meg for a 3min video and 5meg for a 1minute video. Most people embed the 3minute ones... it means im using approx 1.5 gig per unique. Its never gonna work. Popup is the only way i cannot loose money. And i dont have aebn deep pockets.

10-31-2007, 01:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
Banged.TV I caught Jayman looking at my bottom! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 79 Points: -50	Your not understanding me here.... If i have the site getting 100k daily uniques im not letting people upload a video and use there own sponsor urls inside the video because they will get to steal my bandwidth, steal my sales from the traffic on my site. There would be no way for that to even break even. I would be bankrupt. Sponsor flash videos are junk. They are 20 seconds long much like FHG clips. I have yet to seen a decent flash video from any sponsor. Sure they will convert good if u have straight traffic from google but if ur surfer has been around the mill they will leave ur site. I dont see how i can compete with megarotic style tube sites because i dont have the money to stream these videos for free. I guess i will leave it how it is or tweak it a little so that it still pops when user clicks again after video has started an not when they play button is clicked. Why do tons of people embed pornotube videos, megarotic videos, xtube videos... because its free hosting. But i guess i cant afford to do that so im pretty much fucked. I guess the next step will be paying webmasters to embed my movies.... Fuck knows... Its a cruel world we live in. Hard to make a break.

10-31-2007, 01:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
Banged.TV I caught Jayman looking at my bottom! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 79 Points: -50	anyone want 1/10th of a cent for each visitor they send me.

10-31-2007, 01:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Banged.TV I caught Jayman looking at my bottom! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 79 Points: -50	Also, id like to say i have a few 100k+ traffic plugs going on my site in the next 48 hours. It might be worth joining my toplist and sending me a few hits. u could see 10x return. http://www.banged.tv/trade_signup.php

10-31-2007, 05:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
Blinky Blogging. Caffeine. Shame. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 11,343 Points: 30	I wouldn't embed videos that used a popup at all. I understand we'd be using your bandwidth, but it's not worth it for the annoyance to our surfers IMHO. I totally accept links in the videos etc. __________________ More Sex Blogs Directory - Seo friendly hardlinks !

10-31-2007, 09:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
Varzi Network Nigerian Overlord Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,289 Points: 3,595	If you were smart you would use your video site to shuffle some of your visitors off to a TGP or something. Get them away from the high bandwidth content if its not profitable for you. Use the video site as an lure and make it a wee bit unfriendly after the second video or something. Many dump sites with 15-30 min clips will get you in the door let you eat and then push you towards an Video site with those 15 sec clips. There are many things you could do but you need to do your homework. Start by visiting Camlestyle.com and take notes on what you find. Some are 30 sec and others are 30 min. It's a game of roulette and when surfers get tired of the games they convert into customers. __________________ Reliable shared 'static hosting' from Varzi just $3.50/month includes 35Gb transfer, 350Mb storage and 5 domains with $.10/Gb OVERAGES. Contact me to take advantage of this new offer. (points accepted)

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