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Old 11-08-2007, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hand Submitting to TGP's

I submit to certain TGP's every day by hand, and the results have sucked lately, which 10 TGP do you think if you submit to each day make a decent return on investment of time?

Paid and free ones?

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Old 11-08-2007, 06:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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why submit by hand? get CHAMELEON and submit to hundreds in less time than it would to submit to those ten!
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I submit to certain TGP's every day by hand, and the results have sucked lately, which 10 TGP do you think if you submit to each day make a decent return on investment of time?

Paid and free ones?

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what were the ones you submitted to?
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ok, my 800th post...so i can start with:
once upon a time, i spent my evenings submitting to no recip tgp only...i was on a free host...i had about 40 sales in few month...1200+$ for a newbie, really awesome for doing few hand submitting...years ago...
i don't like read/write about how it was easier and better years ago, i think it's just a matter of adapt to new things...
now i think it could be worth buying a partner account to some BIG tgps...many cost about $30-60 (1 or 2 sales...you could easly do in a month)...or you can give chameleon a try
many people say that a paid PA is worth...many not...(i haven't tried yet, but i will)
many people say that a tgp submitter is worth...many not...for me chameleon worked if you have fresh content, good design, good sale texts etc...
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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paid accounts may be worth, but you should have good sales skills and you should submit max allowed amount of galleries. If you submit 1 where 6 are allowed you may find them not worth
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Do what rogue said. No point in working like a donkey.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I submitted galleries for about 2 months using chameleon. It's a nice tool and you can submit to 300 or so TGPs at once depending on your niche and if you have any PAs, but honestly you will get more traffic submitting to one good paid PA than you will from all 300+ non PA TGPs that you submit to using it. After looking through my stats I realized that 95% of the gallery traffic was coming from 5% of the TGPs and I stopped using it and spent that money on a PA and get more traffic now.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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why submit by hand? get CHAMELEON and submit to hundreds in less time than it would to submit to those ten!
I submit to 5 TGP's each day by hand, in addition to using CS and throw out 3 gall's. Those 5 TGP's gives a lot more traffic than those gazillion TGP's in the CS db will ever do.

However, i do agree that if you are just submitting to some random 10 TGP's, then it would be better to just automate it and kick it off.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Stupid Chameleon made me mad.
Advertises that you can submit to nine gazillion at once and no matter what I did it would never submit to more than 500.. I wanted a prorated refund the day after I bought it but all sales are final.... I never tried Cham with PA requester, it may be better, but don't buy the basic $20/mo one..
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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remeber, you can only submit to the ones that allow the niches you specify, if you choose something unusual then you will get a low tgp count to submit to.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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remeber, you can only submit to the ones that allow the niches you specify, if you choose something unusual then you will get a low tgp count to submit to.

It didn't seem to matter what I tried... couldn't get more than 500
But, again, like I said it may be different with the PA requester they offer.
If they'd been good enough to refund me out the day after I bought it, seeing how unsatisfied I was with it, I may very very well have been willing to try it again with the requester... but in light of them not being willing to give a customer a refund I figured, well, to heck with them.
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