Selling teen sites.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by Rofl

Ooh look it's miss 'I know everything about adult psychology there is to know Lez Geri'.

I'm entitled to my opinion, so blow me Miss Encyclopedia Of Everything.

Oh, and you'd do well to just occasionally take things with a pinch of salt.

I take most things I read here with a pinch of salt Rofl.

For example, I wouldn't mind betting you like looking at sexy 18 year olds as much as most men.

After all, before a woman can qualify as a true milf it was necessary for some man to have sex with her quite a few years beforehand. So this means the father of her children was a pedo does it? - oh give us a break.

[Rofl]

You take yourself far too seriously.

Case dismissed.

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

I take most things I read here with a pinch of salt Rofl.

For example, I wouldn't mind betting you like looking at sexy 18 year olds as much as most men.

After all, before a woman can qualify as a true milf it was necessary for some man to have sex with her quite a few years beforehand. So this means the father of her children was a pedo does it? - oh give us a break.

LOL now that is far-fetched...maybe he just meant to point out that there's a fine line, those old farts who are attracted to 18 year olds might also be attracted to 15 year olds. and since you know everything about surfer psychology i'm sure you know that there are actually men who would prefer a hot milf over any 18 year old.

[Head Boy]

Grannies need love as well HCB.

[hardcoreblogger]

oh yeah i'm sure you'll find some hot UK grannies to share your love

[pam]

There is SO much I want to say but it will just end up in an argument. That being said, there are different marketing techniques for each niche and fetish and how you target your surfers.

I'm sure I'll get bashed for this ... but you could market to their peers with, "check out the hot chicks that look like the hot chicks you see at school every day and watch them suck cock and imagine they're sucking YOUR cock" and for older surfers, "Remember when you wanted to fuck the cheerleader in your senior class? When you were young and randy and before life passed you by?" LOL

Perhaps if the people who made teen sites stopped putting up girls who look 13 and who are made to appear to be younger, then people would stop saying that anyone into teens has pedophilic tendencies.

[Head Boy]

Obviously this thread is just going to be another sales advice thread, and no one is going to focus on the main point, which was the difference in attitudes between various age groups. I'll take Geri's advice and read the surfers forums, so carry on telling each other the stuff that we all know already.

[Rofl]

OK, well there is the 'taboo'. Generally older men don't get the opportunity to fuck teen girls in real life any more, it's not considered cricket old chap, so the naughty student getting horny for her older teacher and sucking him off under the desk is gonna be a turn on for many, it's simply forbidden and so adds to the excitement.

Some men (and no doubt women) simply like their porn models to be unblemished and unaged, they want the perfect body that hasn't been tainted by age, hell they can fuck a 'real woman' any time if they put their mind to it, but they want to see perfection in their porn fantasies.

Then there is the 'virgin' angle, inexperienced teens getting their first fucking, and I guess some men want to go where no man has gone before in their fantasies.

[pam]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

Obviously this thread is just going to be another sales advice thread, and no one is going to focus on the main point, which was the difference in attitudes between various age groups. I'll take Geri's advice and read the surfers forums, so carry on telling each other the stuff that we all know already.

Originally Posted by Head Boy

Am I right, and is there much difference in the sales methods for each group?.

Seems to me you got your answer, and just didn't like what you were told.

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by pam

Seems to me you got your answer, and just didn't like what you were told.

and what would that answer be - that nobody has had any interest in doing the research?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by pam

Seems to me you got your answer, and just didn't like what you were told.

Nearly true. He did not like who was telling him. LOL

The difference in age groups when selling teens.

IN GENERAL.
18 year old boys ain't buying memberships to sites with girls they can get for free. Unless they are real sad, but even then they look for it for free.

Porn is about a fantasy of something you can't get. 18 year old boys want their mates Mum, sell them MILF. 45 year old men want their sons girlfriend, sell them Teens.

How do you sell to the surfers looking at your site? Look at the search terms, galleries, links, etc that produce the most traffic and sales. If all you have is a URL then think about the people who will type it into a SE. Think about the keywords, Meta Tags and everything else that will send traffic. Use this to construct your sales pitch. You create the marketing to fit the sales you know how to convert. Doing it any other way is foolish in teens.

My advice to anyone thinking about coming into a highly targeted market like teens is don't. Unless you know the answers to the basic questions like "What motivates a 45 year old to buy a teen site" and you know the odds on selling to 18 year olds are very long.

If you do know, look for sites that will convert a consumer who has been into the niche for 20 years. Who has joined all the top sites and knows there are 100s of sites he could join instead of the one you're offering him.

This is not like selling a niche where the consumer is at a disadvantage looking for sites. It's a market where he's spoilt for choice and he knows it. A market where some of the top sites on the Net set the surfers standards.

Get it right and you will make money and good money.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by pam

I'm sure I'll get bashed for this ... but you could market to their peers with, "check out the hot chicks that look like the hot chicks you see at school every day and watch them suck cock and imagine they're sucking YOUR cock" and for older surfers, "Remember when you wanted to fuck the cheerleader in your senior class? When you were young and randy and before life passed you by?" LOL

Don't think the second one will work very well.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by Rofl

You take yourself far too seriously.

Case dismissed.

Take myself far too seriously?

I just don't like it when pornographers put their puritanical hat on & start spouting hypocritical bullshit.

You promote "teen" porn yourself. So why don't you address the subject of the thread instead of calling people who like "teen" porn "closet p-edos"?
http://www.netpond.com/showthread.php?t=115886
Or are you trying to tell us something about your own predilections?

You say you prefer a good MILF. Surely classic MILF porn is just the Old Guy Fucks Teen Girl scenario in reverse? It's about young man has sex with horny older woman - old enough to be his mum - or am I wrong?

If you're a mature gent who prefers mature ladies what are you going on about MILFs for?

Or perhaps you've just gone off teens because you haven't had much success selling them.

PS: "case dismissed"??? What you think this is a court of law or something?

[Head Boy]

OK guys - you can stop fighting now. I found some useful stuff in the cable and TV viewing demographics, and they don't spout on about selling.

[Rofl]

I am truly touched that someone takes me seriously enough to do some digging around about me.

You truly couldn't write this stuff, truly.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

Take myself far too seriously?

I just don't like it when pornographers put their puritanical hat on & start spouting hypocritical bullshit.

Or perhaps you've just gone off teens because you haven't had much success selling them.

We are all guilty of taking ourselves too seriously here. And on other boards.

Yes some think they are selling bibles and not porn.

If they had a clue they would look at the most popular sites and models in the Teens niche, it would soon show how little they know about the product they sell. Knowledge about what you're selling is essential if you want to convince someone to buy.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by Rofl

I am truly touched that someone takes me seriously enough to do some digging around about me.

You truly couldn't write this stuff, truly.

Didn't have to spend much time digging darling. I check the traffic trading forum nearly every day & I have a pretty good memory.

[tolik]

paul posted some nice things in this thread. yes - main target for webmasters these days are targeting/spliting of traffic - it are key for get nice ratios.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by tolik

paul posted some nice things in this thread. yes - main target for webmasters these days are targeting/spliting of traffic - it are key for get nice ratios.

Thank you. Some get it and some don't. So some make money and some don't.

[Head Boy]

and some just post the off-topic obvious stuff we know and kill threads.