I don't understand the appeal of this new porn site

[LezGeri]

Intensecash, who built their success with gay porn sites, are claiming that their new "straight" site: Broke Straight Girls converted 1:419 in Nov. 2007

It is basically an FFM site with a twist - one of the girls is 100% straight & has never had sex with another girl. She's there to have fun & make some bucks into the bargain having sex with a hot guy. Then a girl who's into girls steps into the scene & basically the straight girls needs to be offered a load more extra cash to lick some pussy. And she needs the man there to get her relaxed & horny enough as well as the extra cash to persuade her to swing both ways.

I honestly can't see the appeal of this site or figure out who it's going to sell to. I totally understand the appeal of FFM sites with bisexual or bi-curious girls & the appeal of sites like: Her First Lesbian Sex, We Live Together, Naughty Nanny & Girls Hunting Girls. But I don't get this at all.

I can't see this site appealing to most Girl/Girl & Lesbian Porn fans, male or female. If I'm right who will it appeal too?

What do other's think? Can you see this site doing well? Anyone here promoting it?

[RawAlex]

You have to wind it back to the underlying fantasies:

1) The untouchable / unobtainable girl, except now she is desperate
2) The whole "can I watch" mentality of men and lesbians
3) undertow of domination and submissions
4) the theory for older men that money can buy them anything.

Now, not everyone is turned on by these things, so when you do a site that appeals to more than one underlying urge, you risk pissing people off because one or more of those things go against their moral system, like paying for sex or subtly forcing a girl to do something.

[REßEL]

Surely it's the many many guys who can't convince their girlfriends to do a FFM with them, and fantasise of one day convincing her (somehow - in this site's case, cash).

I don't know the site. But I can easily see that scenario in many homes around the globe.

[pam]

I've been promoting it for a very short period of time.
200 190 2 1:95 $60.00

I think it will do well with men who like to watch 2 women as well as women who like to watch 2 women.

[GTP Dave]

basically its a complete fantasy thing here... like RawAlex pointed out....

sometimes I think it would really help to have a degree in human psychology as a webmaster, understanding the urges and needs of those in need...

[rvince]

Originally Posted by REßEL

Surely it's the many many guys who can't convince their girlfriends to do a FFM with them, and fantasise of one day convincing her (somehow - in this site's case, cash).

My opinion too.
This site definately appeals to guys who want to have a FFM 3some with their girlfriend/wife.
The fact that the "girlfriend" is getting some pussy too takes the guilt off the guy's back and he can say his GF: you didn't share me with another chick, it's BOTH of us who played with another girl.
I'd say this site would convert great with male audience, but like crap with female surfers.

[LezGeri]

Interesting responses so far & all somewhat more positive about the site than me.

But I'm still very far from convinced.

Pam, okay you've made a bit of money with it so far, hardly spectacular though is it? Bit early to say I guess. I've seen the review on your site. Your reviewer gave it a very good review, however I wasn't really convinced that he liked the site. Of course it will get some sales, and one thing it does have going for it is the HD video, oh & some pretty girls and good looking guys.

I admit that personally I really don't like "strapped for cash" type "reality" sites, but I do generally understand their appeal. This I just don't.

I would have thought broke lesbian couples fuck men for cash would do a lot better. I definitely think drunk straight girls turning bi would do better.

I've seen no evidence that porn surfers search for "straight" girls in any significant numbers. They look for girls - bi girls - lesbians - hot, glamour, amateur, porn, goth, hairy, teen, shaved, busty, plump, fat, skinny, big, petite, tiny, squirting, kinky, slave, blonde, brunette, asian, black, redhead, etc, etc, etc, etc, girls. But straight girls? And if they do look for straight girls porn how likely are they to be looking for broke straight girls going lez for cash?

I've never seen another porn site that used the words "straight" & "girls" in it's title. Plenty of porn sites aimed at the gay market though about straight guys going gay for pay, or wanking for queer eyes, and even Boy/Girl hardcore pov porn for gay eyes.

And that's the other thing, before they launched this site intense had only done gay sites, including the hugely successful, award winning http://www.brokestraightboys.com/
There's no MMF action in that site as far as I know, so the new site isn't just the same concept turned round - not quite. However I can't help thinking that Broke Straight Girls is a gay man's concept for a straight porn site - he gets that straight guys like girl-on-girl action but he doesn't really understand what the appeal is for most men.

Anyway, maybe I'm totally wrong, and this site will be a huge hit to compare with Her First Lesbian Sex. But I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell.

[pam]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

Interesting responses so far & all somewhat more positive about the site than me.

But I'm still very far from convinced.

Pam, okay you've made a bit of money with it so far, hardly spectacular though is it? Bit early to say I guess. I've seen the review on your site. Your reviewer gave it a very good review, however I wasn't really convinced that he liked the site. Of course it will get some sales, and one thing it does have going for it is the HD video, oh & some pretty girls and good looking guys.

It made 2 sales, 1:95, and I'll take that ratio anyday. I didn't expect major sales as that's not a niche that sells well on my review sites. Some sites do major sales very quickly, and most don't.

My reviewer isn't supposed to convince you if HE liked the site or not. He's supposed to give a fair and impartial review. When a reviewer has a thing for a particular niche, they go overboard with praise and overlook many things they normally would not overlook. He reported the facts of the site as he should. I don't like reading reviews when someone gushes over this or that, because "wow, she is SO pretty" is subjective, as is "this is the best niche site there is!".

Originally Posted by LezGeri

And that's the other thing, before they launched this site intense had only done gay sites

Very incorrect. They used to have a lot of straight sites, including one hairy bush site called Fur Burgers. They began dropping them and developing gay sites and they were successful. They've had a straight site, Sexy Muscular Women, all along.

If I remember right -- and Mark can come in and correct me if I'm wrong -- their straight sites all shared one backend and when you joined the hairy site, the page simply said, "sorry, we have no hairy pictures or videos, but be sure to look around at all the other niches we have!"

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by pam

Very incorrect. They used to have a lot of straight sites, including one hairy bush site called Fur Burgers. They began dropping them and developing gay sites and they were successful. They've had a straight site, Sexy Muscular Women, all along.

Okay Pam, I stand corrected

When you say "I didn't expect major sales as that's not a niche that sells well on my review sites." Do you mean FFM Group niche or Lesbian niche?

[pocoloco]

I am doing great with every Intense Cash site (espacially Broke Straight Guys and College Boy Physicals). I am promoting this new site for only a very short time and had a few sales already.

At first I did not expect to sell so well, but that's what I though about College Boy Physicals as well, which is in my top 5 best converting sites for quite some months now.

[pam]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

When you say "I didn't expect major sales as that's not a niche that sells well on my review sites." Do you mean FFM Group niche or Lesbian niche?

Lesbian, girls who do things for cash, that type ... I do so-so with lesbian sites.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by pam

Lesbian, girls who do things for cash, that type ... I do so-so with lesbian sites.

Ah the "girls who do things for cash" niche. I think that's what it really is - or rather "the girls who are so fucking desperate for money they'll do absolutely anything" niche.

I had another look at your review site Pam & see you have it down as:
Category: Lesbians

With all due respect I hope you'll appreciate that to me that that's really laughable.

[pam]

The main focus of the site is 2 women having sex. To me, that's lesbians.

I also notice The Best Porn has it listed under lesbians as well, so I'm not the odd duck here.

[BadWolf]

I don't understand the uh, allure of lesbian porn, either. So I guess we're even.

[Krusty]

hmm.. interesting.. I would say there is an interest out there in watching someone do something they don't want to do because they need money or they want to impress someone or peer pressure etc.

I think it would appeal to straight men, maybe more than straight, bi or lesbian women. I'm yet to meet a straight guy who hasn't said he'd love to see two girls together (and gathered from a few of them that the FFM 3somes are fantasies for all of them too). It may also appeal to women who like the idea of having a girl go down on them because they're bribed etc.

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

I would have thought broke lesbian couples fuck men for cash would do a lot better. I definitely think drunk straight girls turning bi would do better.

could it be that your own bi-girl point of view comes into play here?

Originally Posted by LezGeri

I've seen no evidence that porn surfers search for "straight" girls in any significant numbers. They look for girls - bi girls - lesbians - hot, glamour, amateur, porn, goth, hairy, teen, shaved, busty, plump, fat, skinny, big, petite, tiny, squirting, kinky, slave, blonde, brunette, asian, black, redhead, etc, etc, etc, etc, girls. But straight girls? And if they do look for straight girls porn how likely are they to be looking for broke straight girls going lez for cash?

yeah they don't look for "straight girls" but i think this site applies to a wide range of general porn surfer traffic, as others suggested especially all the guys dreaming of a threesome with their gf (or their phantasy gf) and a hot bi girl. almost every guy out there has at least had that phantasy

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by BadWolf

I don't understand the uh, allure of lesbian porn, either. So I guess we're even.

Well do you understand the allure of Broke Straight Girls then BadWolf? Because it isn't lesbian porn - not from my pov.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by pam

The main focus of the site is 2 women having sex. To me, that's lesbians.

The first thing I see on their TOUR is girls with big cocks in their mouths - flesh & blood cocks belonging to men, not strapon cocks attached to women. There is even a shot of a girl with man-jizz all over her mouth & chin, some of 2 girls worshipping dick, & even a man licking pussy. And okay, some girl licking pussy too.

If you take out the nasty "only doing it for the cash" element then this content, once the sex starts, is pretty much standard hardcore FFM group sex - where women are traditionally invariably presented as bisexual anyway.

I know this site won't sell to many people (male or female) who are seriously into lesbian porn/erotica. What I don't know is if it sell well to other porn consumers.

E.G. I'm sure that Broke Straight Girls on dvd wouldn't go down well at all with most of the girl/girl fans who hang out in the forum & write customer reviews @ http://www.lezlovevideo.com/ - who are the sort of folks who are serious buyers of lesbian porn & erotica.

Actually I kind of doubt lezlove would even bother stocking BSG dvds. They do stock some dvds that aren't completely All Girl & also the Her First Lesbian Sex dvds.

Originally Posted by pam

I also notice The Best Porn has it listed under lesbians as well, so I'm not the odd duck here.

Not quite. In fact not at all.
http://www.thebestporn.com/review/brokestraightgirls/

"This site gives you the classic boy-boy-girl action as well as girl-on-girl and other variations that help these gals put a little green into their pockets.

Category: Lesbian Sex Secondary: Reality Porn, HD Porn"

That's a much more acceptable way of describing it to me than just: "Category: Lesbians"
which frankly is pure bollocks.

NB The Best Porn have still got it wrong though - it should say surely " classic boy-girl-girl action " if it was really boy-boy-girl including same sex action then it would have to be categorized as "bisexual" or maybe even "gay"

Maybe you don't do very well with the lesbian niche Pam because you don't really understand it, and therefore the real fans don't trust your reviews.

[pam]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

Maybe you don't do very well with the lesbian niche Pam because you don't really understand it, and therefore the real fans don't trust your reviews.

Why would it matter if I understood it? I don't review lesbian sites. I don't promote lesbian sites.

I'll have a lesbian site out within the next year, though, so I guess we'll see if I understand it or not. Funny how I do so well with my gay sites, though. Must have come from living with all those gay people so many years ago.

Originally Posted by LezGeri

Category: Lesbian Sex Secondary: Reality Porn, HD Porn"

That's a much more acceptable way of describing it to me than just: "Category: Lesbians"
which frankly is pure bollocks.

Gee, they have the category as LESBIAN SEX and I have the category as LESBIAN ... but mine is pure bollocks. I have the secondary category as REALITY and they have it as REALITY PORN.

Go back to the crack pipe.