An open & honest offer to the board...

[funkymonkee]

Been a member of net pond since 2002 just came back a few weeks ago to see what everyone else has been doing to make a living in the adult world. I'm not a webmaster but a producer of adult content since 1998.

I have mostly photo content about 3000 lisenced sets. But I also own about 150 videos on a few niches from spanking sex , stockings sex and a variety of other niches.. My reason for not selling licensed is I just don't want to de value the videos seeing I'm creating a hand full of sites for January before the show in Vegas & the content is still semi exclusive. I understand after selling photo content through brokers for many many years that it has gone down hugely for my monthly profits. So right now I'm looking for other ways to make the most $$ out of the large amount of content I own.

If anyone here has any joint venture ideas I'm open to offers.
So far the videos are being made into semi exclusive sites. So lisenced selling I'm not into yet. But I'm curious on other ways to sell this content. Streaming , graphics for site templates, online dvd store selling the videos to surfers. Anything I may have missed. I will have a site live after christmas called 2257 licensed showing samples of all Niches I produced photo & videos. For now I just have my site www.wemakecontent.com with samples of a couple of the videos I own under eGo Productions & photos on the side bar to see the quality. If anyone has any ideas or offers please content me..

funky

[Paul Markham]

Good luck, I think a site with only pictures might work but will be tough.

[funkymonkee]

Paul the sites are all video sites I'm also adding some of the photo sets I own as filler. But mostly everything is video..

I was going to ask you more about your site but may just icq you after day trading tommorrow.




Funky

[Paul Markham]

From my experience running a paysite is easy. You need a good CMS system, we have our own, good password management program I recommend Strongbox, Ray is awesome with support. Then a nice design that shows off your content in the way it should be shown.

Get CCBILL as your billing company and use their affiliate program. Then get the site onto as many review sites as possible.

All this is assuming you have the programming skills or employ or partner with someone to make it work.

The bottom line is how good is your content in the niche or niches you work in? If it's good traffic will come and will convert with the minimum effort. some will tell you it's all about traffic, it's not it's about converting traffic. Somewhere someone has to take money from the surfer, the guys who can do this are top of the pile. The rest work for the good ones, if only sending traffic.

Good affiliates who know your niche will send you traffic if your site converts. Running an affiliate program can be tough and some are choosing other routes today.

I am not a guy who knows anything about your niches, so not the guy to handle your sites. But I would think some good links, good SEO and lots of text aimed at your target market will being in SE traffic. Start by buying URLs like;

spanking-sex-games.com and stockings-and suspender-sex.com they might be gone but buy domains of good Keyphrases and put something up, if only an info page on a .info domain.

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Then get the site onto as many review sites as possible.

This is a great way to give away half your income, and to get reported as having crap sales ratios. Of course the review sites will contradict this and say that ratios are great.

Most webmasters are unable to see the correlation in the above statement.

[Tuula]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

From my experience running a paysite is easy.

Yeah sure it is Paul, it's so easy, that's why you're here bitching about stuff all the time, FunkyMonkee do yourself a favor and search through some threads about Paul and his experiences as of late. They are a long read, but you DO want to do this!

Paul giving out advice on how to run an affiliate program, that has to be the ballsiest post of the year to date! Where is LB?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

This is a great way to give away half your income, and to get reported as having crap sales ratios. Of course the review sites will contradict this and say that ratios are great.

Most webmasters are unable to see the correlation in the above statement.

What makes you think review sites are going to give a sponsor crap ratios?

Or more specific what PROOF do you have of this?

However what do you suggest people, sponsors and affiliates, do about review sites?

Sponsors could refuse to let them list their sites and not get the traffic they send, both surfers and affiliates.

Affiliates could refuse to send traffic to sites that have their site reviewed and not send traffic to some of the best site on the Net.

Both options have people losing money. Me I'm sticking like glue to the review sites because over all their traffic is gold dust for us. At present I have one who has converted at 1-18 and 62 sales in the last 5 days. Can you do that? Careful what you say unless you want to be looking at screen grabs to prove you wrong. AND ME RIGHT!!!

funkymonkee dealing with the top affiliates is not a problem, they are here to make money and not to deal with the drama from some people. When you convert affiliates traffic over the last 5 days at 1-560, which includes one affiliate doing 1:16,497 and won't "work" with you. you find many just send the traffic and take the money.

Careful what you say unless you want to be looking at screen grabs to prove you wrong. AND ME RIGHT!!!

[GTP Dave]

Originally Posted by Tuula

Yeah sure it is Paul, it's so easy, that's why you're here bitching about stuff all the time, FunkyMonkee do yourself a favor and search through some threads about Paul and his experiences as of late. They are a long read, but you DO want to do this!

Paul giving out advice on how to run an affiliate program, that has to be the ballsiest post of the year to date! Where is LB?

I agree

now, on the other hand I would like to personally welcome you back to Netpond
That was a good move....

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Both options have people losing money. Me I'm sticking like glue to the review sites because over all their traffic is gold dust for us. At present I have one who has converted at 1-18 and 62 sales in the last 5 days. Can you do that? Careful what you say unless you want to be looking at screen grabs to prove you wrong. AND ME RIGHT!!!

Which of your other affiliates get similar ratios. If you don't have any, and you aren't getting similar ratios from your ad campaigns, then you should try to work out why - then maybe you will see that I'm correct. Your post is yet another one that would seem to indicate that I am right.

I don't know what sponsors can do, but if they stop rewarding the affiliates who actually go out and hunt for surfers that pay, then they are going to lose them. It's fine having a load of guys hanging around your shop front grabbing customers as they pass, but if nobosy sends customers to your store, then they (and you) won't have any customers to grab.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Tuula

Yeah sure it is Paul, it's so easy, that's why you're here bitching about stuff all the time, FunkyMonkee do yourself a favor and search through some threads about Paul and his experiences as of late. They are a long read, but you DO want to do this!

Can you make life easier for people and list some of the posts where I bitch about how hard it is to run a paysite? Of course you should DO it as it's so important.

Dealing with idiots is tough, dealing with scumbags who put up your banners and link them to other sites and then must not get banned for being scum bags is also tough.

But running a paysite, if you have a programmer is easy. Getting sign ups is not too tough if you have good content, getting good affiliates to send traffic is not too tough if your site converts. And you have the right tools.

funkymonkee take a look at these tools if you want to see what affiliates like.

http://blog.paulmarkham.com
http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/god.php
http://www.paulmarkhamcash.com/affiliates/fhs/

And a site like this.

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/memb...ll=1&orderby=7

Traffic will come, convert and stay. Because so few sites can do this. And that's the crunch today. What can you offer that so many can't, what can you do for the surfer and the affiliates traffic that puts your site above so many others. Because your final figures are down to what the surfers spending money think of your site.

[_LB_]

Originally Posted by Tuula

Yeah sure it is Paul, it's so easy, that's why you're here bitching about stuff all the time, FunkyMonkee do yourself a favor and search through some threads about Paul and his experiences as of late. They are a long read, but you DO want to do this!

Paul giving out advice on how to run an affiliate program, that has to be the ballsiest post of the year to date! Where is LB?

Giggling to myself

That quote might be my new sig

[Tuula]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Can you make life easier for people and list some of the posts where I bitch about how hard it is to run a paysite? Of course you should DO it as it's so important.

Dealing with idiots is tough, dealing with scumbags who put up your banners and link them to other sites and then must not get banned for being scum bags is also tough.

But running a paysite, if you have a programmer is easy. Getting sign ups is not too tough if you have good content, getting good affiliates to send traffic is not too tough if your site converts. And you have the right tools.

funkymonkee take a look at these tools if you want to see what affiliates like.

http://blog.paulmarkham.com
http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/god.php
http://www.paulmarkhamcash.com/affiliates/fhs/

And a site like this.

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/memb...ll=1&orderby=7

Traffic will come, convert and stay. Because so few sites can do this. And that's the crunch today. What can you offer that so many can't, what can you do for the surfer and the affiliates traffic that puts your site above so many others. Because your final figures are down to what the surfers spending money think of your site.

Is there anything you DON'T BITCH about? Because I'd be here for at least a month, maybe two!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

Which of your other affiliates get similar ratios. If you don't have any, and you aren't getting similar ratios from your ad campaigns, then you should try to work out why - then maybe you will see that I'm correct. Your post is yet another one that would seem to indicate that I am right.

Many of the have good ratios, OK this guy is the top ratio, but no complaints from the others. Take a look at the site and links and tell me what I'm doing wrong for the surfer.

Originally Posted by Head Boy

I don't know what sponsors can do, but if they stop rewarding the affiliates who actually go out and hunt for surfers that pay, then they are going to lose them. It's fine having a load of guys hanging around your shop front grabbing customers as they pass, but if nobosy sends customers to your store, then they (and you) won't have any customers to grab.

What PROOF do you have? Because unless you can prove it you're talking bullshit as usual.

Why not start a post with "I think it could be like this"

If the surfer is not sure of your "sales pitch" he's not your traffic. What ever BS you come out with if he was "your traffic" he would not be looking elsewhere for a second opinion of what you said. So if he is he does not believe you, he thinks you're spinning him.

So he goes to a review site to see if you're telling him the truth. Does that sound like a sale you deserve?

The CLOSER deserves paying for the sale, it's your fault you can't close the sale.

The only proof you can get is the history of the surfer before he signs up. So here's the deal. Go find the program that tracks the sites before they get to the affiliate who sends the sign ups, get one of your sponsors to install it and watch the PROOF or not. That the surfer went to another site with the sites promo on, then a review site and then a sponsors site. The affiliate still does not deserve the sale, BECAUSE HE COULD NOT CLOSE THE SALE.

Business is about closers, not people who can only interest people.

[Head Boy]

So you have a review affiliate who sells at 1:18 with 62 sales. Is there a type of affiliate who gets better than 1:50 without owning a review site?

On the basis of your post, it would seem that you are happy for affiliates' sales to be leaked to review sites.

[Tuula]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

So you have a review affiliate who sells at 1:18 with 62 sales. Is there a type of affiliate who gets better than 1:50 without owning a review site?

On the basis of your post, it would seem that you are happy for affiliates' sales to be leaked to review sites.

Paul doesn't do that he just bans affiliates remember?

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The CLOSER deserves paying for the sale, it's your fault you can't close the sale.

The closer always gets credit for the sale, because the sponsor closes the sale. If he's no good, then he may need some help, but that doesn't mean he should deprive his affiliates of their income for finding surfers with credit cards.

I thought you were a sales/marketing man Paul. Surely you know about closing the sale, and how to avoid losing it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Tuula

Is there anything you DON'T BITCH about? Because I'd be here for at least a month, maybe two!

So you can't spend 15 minutes looking for proof. I'm calling you out.

Back up your words or maybe I will and prove you wrong or lying.

Yes HB I do have other sites doing better than 1-50. Paysites do that.

I'm done arguing with small people, so thay can post and flame. Unless they can prove they are right. Proof would be a new line here.

[_LB_]

Don't believe Paul's boasts about his conversions.

Several of his past affiliates I talked to mentioned ratios of 0:6000 and worse. Surprised they didn't get banned from his program seeing as he bans affiliates who don't convert.