Who Promotes the Bisexual Niche

[The Real G]

I'm talking about the MMF kind of niche. Who promotes it and do you get what category do you put it in if there is no option for bisexual? Is it considered closer to gay? What gets the best results for this niche?

[Globofun]

I promote bisexual shemales!

[The Real G]

Originally Posted by Globofun

I promote bisexual shemales!

But in that you would list the sites in the shemale catergory right?

[Globofun]

It all depends where you would list that!

I promote all kinds of shemale subniches.....but rarely there a place for specific subniches......


......but there's NO MONEY in all that!

[The Real G]

Originally Posted by Globofun

It all depends where you would list that!

I promote all kinds of shemale subniches.....but rarely there a place for specific subniches......


......but there's NO MONEY in all that!

I know that, there's no money in porn all together Thats what I'm curious about, where would this subniche fall under?

[PornPig]

I've noticed that most people put the MMf Bisexual stuff in the Gay category, However I believe it is not for the Gay catagory.

bisexual in general , I believe is really for curious straight people. or for more adventureous straight people.

my 2cents

[The Real G]

So where do you think it would get the best results? Some places have it as a listed niche that I can use but others don't.

[Jel]

When I used to sub MMF Bi galleries/freesites and the TGP/LL didn't have a Bi category I used to put them in the Group Sex cat, so I'd say to pick that one rather than gay.

[The Real G]

Did you try both Jel? I'm kind of interested in hearing who had what kinds of results from the different categories.

[Jel]

I didn't tbh, I felt that they'd get rejected if I tried subbing to Gay.

[The Real G]

The groupsex sounds like a good idea though. And considering that some of them are MMMF from this sponsor it would work I guess.

[LezGeri]

Yes!

I promote mmf bisexual & I've posted about it on a number of occasions before @ NetPond.

Jel is right. Submit your mmf bi galleries & freesites to the group sex category not the gay category! Unless the tgp/LL has a bisexual category - then obviously submit to the bisexual category. And just hope that the owner/staff of the site are open-minded & knowledgeable enough to put it in the group cat. & not the gay.

Make it clear in your gallery title/desc. that your mmf gallery has bisexual men in it.

Bisexual porn converts best with bisexual traffic! Lol. Bisexual surfers generally like straight & gay porn as well as bi porn so they are present in "straight" traffic & "gay" traffic - consequently many AW's fail to recognize their presence.

However when surfers go to the gay category of a tgp they are expecting to see, and are in the mood to see, men only. Regardless of whether they are gay, bi or bi-curious men or women or even trans folk.

Surfers going to the group sex category are in the mood to see three or more people having group sex. Many of them are quite happy to see bisexual men as well as bisexual women. But as I've already said, you must make it clear in your title/desc. that the men are bisexual in your mmf gallery for those who don't want to see any male-on-male action.

You can submit bisexual & tranny to most gay tgps & LLs & search engines. Some even list some straight porn - especially straight porn made for queer eyes - i.e. good looking guys that are focused on at least as much as the girls.

Also, if you are specifically targeting female porn surfers, it is very worthwhile promoting bisexual mmf to them, as many women find it a huge turn-on.

[redwhiteandblue]

I am not promoting it yet but I will be, as it's a niche I understand well. I would not put it in with gay content at all. It's more for group sex, swingers, threesomes, dogging, that kind of thing. It's possible a bi guy might go from looking at shemale to looking at bi mmf content, but not all. A lot of bi guys like the idea of being in an mmf situation where the girl is dominant and makes the guys do things to each other, so you could try the fem dom niche.

[redwhiteandblue]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

Also, if you are specifically targeting female porn surfers, it is very worthwhile promoting bisexual mmf to them, as many women find it a huge turn-on.

This is my experience too, and something many "straight" guys would do well to understand.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

Yes!

I promote mmf bisexual & I've posted about it on a number of occasions before @ NetPond.

Jel is right. Submit your mmf bi galleries & freesites to the group sex category not the gay category! Unless the tgp/LL has a bisexual category - then obviously submit to the bisexual category. And just hope that the owner/staff of the site are open-minded & knowledgeable enough to put it in the group cat. & not the gay.

Make it clear in your gallery title/desc. that your mmf gallery has bisexual men in it.

Bisexual porn converts best with bisexual traffic! Lol. Bisexual surfers generally like straight & gay porn as well as bi porn so they are present in "straight" traffic & "gay" traffic - consequently many AW's fail to recognize their presence.

However when surfers go to the gay category of a tgp they are expecting to see, and are in the mood to see, men only. Regardless of whether they are gay, bi or bi-curious men or women or even trans folk.

Surfers going to the group sex category are in the mood to see three or more people having group sex. Many of them are quite happy to see bisexual men as well as bisexual women. But as I've already said, you must make it clear in your title/desc. that the men are bisexual in your mmf gallery for those who don't want to see any male-on-male action.

You can submit bisexual & tranny to most gay tgps & LLs & search engines. Some even list some straight porn - especially straight porn made for queer eyes - i.e. good looking guys that are focused on at least as much as the girls.

Also, if you are specifically targeting female porn surfers, it is very worthwhile promoting bisexual mmf to them, as many women find it a huge turn-on.

Couldn't agree more with every point

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

I am not promoting it yet but I will be, as it's a niche I understand well. I would not put it in with gay content at all. It's more for group sex, swingers, threesomes, dogging, that kind of thing. It's possible a bi guy might go from looking at shemale to looking at bi mmf content, but not all. A lot of bi guys like the idea of being in an mmf situation where the girl is dominant and makes the guys do things to each other, so you could try the fem dom niche.

This post by redwhiteandblue highlights something for me -that bisexual is more than just a niche.

No one in this business ever refers to straight porn as if it were a single niche. And those that understand gay porn know that it is a market with lots of niches, not a single niche. There is no such thing as the gay niche. Should there be such a thing as the bisexual niche?

A classic bisexual site is http://www.threepillows.com/ where there is some mild femdom now & then but it is far removed from being a bdsm site. Three pillows type porn is what defines the "bisexual niche"

http://straponfuckers.com/ has a much stronger Femdom feel with the emphasis on the women wearing strapons & showing men getting sexual with each other in bi-orgies. But it is still not full on bdsm.

On the trans side of things it should be noted that many T-girls in porn are bisexual. http://www.zoefuckpuppet.com/ is a bisexual T-Girl site.

Then there's transman porn http://www.transexual-man.com/
F2M trans pornstar Buck Angel is bisexual. He says that about 20% of his fans (members?) are women & 80% are gay men - but you can be sure that many of those "gay" men are bisexual rather than gay. Buck does have a pussy after all, even if it is a man's pussy, & he has sex with women & shemales as well as men in his porn.

Then there is porn like this:
http://www.ladsatwork.com/
- straight porn for queer eyes mixed with solo guys. This site is probably aimed more at gay and bi-curious gay men than bi men. And will probably appeal to some women. It certainly isn't aimed at straight men.

So what I'm saying here is that all the above porn sites could be regarded as different niches that are part of the bisexual market.

[sparkman]

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

A lot of bi guys like the idea of being in an mmf situation where the girl is dominant and makes the guys do things to each other, so you could try the fem dom niche.

Does anyone else find this to work?

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by sparkman

Does anyone else find this to work?

If it's the right sort of bisexual content then yes it can work.

This is what I was trying to make clear in my last post. Bisexual is a market not a niche.

Many pro dommes have "forced" bisexuality/homosexualityas part of their repertoire. Ask any Dominatrix about strapons & she will tell you that many male subs what her to fuck them in the ass. That doesn't necessarily mean all these guys are bisexual, but it's a clear indication that many of them are leaning that way.

Check out these two galleries for the same site: "Hardcore Bisexuals"
Gallery 1
Gallery 2
There's nothing Femdom about the first - if anything it's the female who is being dominated. In the second the busty lady with the strapon is clearly dominating the guys.

If you make galleries with that content & you submit them to general niche tgps that have no bisexual category you could submit both to group, but the second only could be submitted to Femdom / Fetish / BDSM type categories. But I'd still say that would make more sense if you're promoting a strapon/bisexual site like:http://straponfuckers.com/

I think on the whole that men who are into Femdom are kinky enough not to be turned off by a male bisexuality being shown in a Femdom context, even if they aren't bisexual.

Pam maybe popping into this thread shortly to make a snide comment about spammers.

[The Real G]

Lezgeri, will you be my bisexual market promotion mentor? Holy shit you've taken me to motha fuckin' school on this. I feel like I've just gotten the wealth of knowledge that I've been looking for. You are definitely FUCKING RAD!!