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Old 12-23-2007, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why do people choose fraud as their way to make a living?

these guys that start email scams and steal peoples banking information or identities have to be fairly smart to run their schemes so why don't they just do something legit?
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Because they usually are in countries where there is no recourse for fraud.
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The Nigerian scams offer $500,000 or more pps - no adult industry sponsor offers this much yet, but the way things are going, we may see it next year.
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Old 12-23-2007, 03:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The Nigerian scams offer $500,000 or more pps - no adult industry sponsor offers this much yet, but the way things are going, we may see it next year.
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Old 12-23-2007, 03:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Because it is easy money maybe?
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Old 12-23-2007, 03:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Because it is easy money maybe?
Not when you factor in the jail time.
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Not when you factor in the jail time.
Not everyone gets caught.
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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They do it countries where police are not tuned up and can get away with it... for most of them it is easy money until they get greedy and get caught.
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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They do it countries where police are not tuned up and can get away with it... for most of them it is easy money until they get greedy and get caught.
I just watched a show on CNN about how much identity theft is becoming a problem in the U.S
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Take the Nigerian scammers for instance. Why would they work for some shitty 1$ a day job when they can spend all day sitting at a chair sucking thousands of dollars out of rich westerners. The choice is simple for them.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Fraud is not just nigerian scammers - it's stealing traffic on paysite tours, carding to defraud sponsors, shaving, SE cloaking, deleting link recips, using bought content to promote a paysite when the content isn't in the members area. selling warez etc.......

People are very quick to condemn the Nigerian scammers, but every day we see webmasters being outed for minor frauds. In fact it is becoming so common, that one can be accused of not understanding the business model if one mentions them publicly.
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Fraud is not just nigerian scammers - it's stealing traffic on paysite tours, carding to defraud sponsors, shaving, SE cloaking, deleting link recips, using bought content to promote a paysite when the content isn't in the members area. selling warez etc.......

People are very quick to condemn the Nigerian scammers, but every day we see webmasters being outed for minor frauds. In fact it is becoming so common, that one can be accused of not understanding the business model if one mentions them publicly.
Yep it's getting hard to find a sponsor an honest sponsor these days.
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Fraud is not just nigerian scammers - it's stealing traffic on paysite tours, carding to defraud sponsors, shaving, SE cloaking, deleting link recips, using bought content to promote a paysite when the content isn't in the members area. selling warez etc.......

People are very quick to condemn the Nigerian scammers, but every day we see webmasters being outed for minor frauds. In fact it is becoming so common, that one can be accused of not understanding the business model if one mentions them publicly.

What?

Clearly not all fraud is just nigerian scammers. Why would you feel the need to say that lol ?

I fail to see the link between 419 scams and webmasters being outed for minor fraud.

Understanding what business model?
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yep it's getting hard to find a sponsor an honest sponsor these days.

You might want to read what he said again. The things he refers to are mainly webmaster related activities, with the exception of 'stealing traffic on paysite tours' which is commonly referred to as a traffic leak. Paysite tours are clearly visible to anyone who choses to promote a program. If you don't like what you see then don't promote the tour. BTW we have no leaks on our tours.

As for honest sponsors the same is very true for webmasters. Ask anyone who runs a program. Webmaster fraud is a HUGE problem.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Because they usually are in countries where there is no recourse for fraud.
True.. and that's the only way they know how to get money
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Easy money, hard to catch (internet thives/scammers)
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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bcause they earn more money than someone else with blogging does
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Quote:
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They do it countries where police are not tuned up and can get away with it... for most of them it is easy money until they get greedy and get caught.
You may want to check this site:

http://worldwidescam.info/

It has nothing to do with "countries where police are no tuned up and can get away with it..."
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:26 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yea scampers are only for Mozambique
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