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Old 02-21-2008, 06:25 PM   #41 (permalink)
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you're kidding right?
No I'm not kidding, he even added columns to the templates and everything. Removed some images, added others, it seems that the layout and color scheme are similar, but with his added elements its enough to make it legit.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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No I'm not kidding, he even added columns to the templates and everything. Removed some images, added others, it seems that the layout and color scheme are similar, but with his added elements its enough to make it legit.
You're quite wrong. It will never be legal as long as it's based on someone elses work, without their permission/proper licenses.

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*to produce copies or reproductions of the work and to sell those copies (including, typically, electronic copies)
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:34 PM   #43 (permalink)
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You're quite wrong. It will never be legal as long as it's based on someone elses work, without their permission/proper licenses.

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I completely agree. I most always use theme templates just as they are with no changes.

However, on some of them I make minor changes, usually color, header, etc.

I only do this after visiting the designer site and checking to see if they allow that. A lot of them use the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license which will allow you to make some changes but you must always keep the original designers link on the page.

In this case it is blatantly stealing because template monster states that you cannot resell it's templates. If you don't like that, then don't buy from them.

I'm sure this guy/girl did "bust his ass" modifying the template but that does not make them THE DESIGNER, so they shouldn't be passing themselves off as such in any way.

I'd be seriously pissed if I purchased a DESIGN in this situation.
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:03 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:59 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I guess to each his own then. You do bring up valid points and I would also be upset if he was promoting them as origional works. I was not aware that he was and can see how a purchaser would be upset. Personally I would not mind using his templates knowing that he changed them from someone elses origional design, as I know how much work he put into the recreations, but that is just me.
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:08 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:52 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I guess to each his own then. You do bring up valid points and I would also be upset if he was promoting them as origional works. I was not aware that he was and can see how a purchaser would be upset. Personally I would not mind using his templates knowing that he changed them from someone elses origional design, as I know how much work he put into the recreations, but that is just me.
There is no grayzone here. Either they/he had permission to re-sell the templates, in which case it is legal. Or they didn't, in which case it's ILLEGAL, regardless of their skills, how good they are at drawing, how easilly they COULD'VE done it if they hadn't stole it.

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Old 04-07-2008, 08:35 AM   #48 (permalink)
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something was brought to attention on another forum today. thought i might as well drop the warning here too. it appears as though the blog templates this guy is selling are nothing more than slightly editted templates available off template monster.

these were two of the specific template monster examples that were brought up there.



( horizontal scroll to the right if you don't see it )

it's pretty hard to pass this off as a coincidence, and he has been quoted as saying "i don't think anyone is going to care". now that there's good number of people who know about it, i'm sure more examples with turn up. just a heads up to anyone who isn't interested in infriging upon any legal boundaries. he was also quoted as sayng he wouldn't put up live demos of the themes becausse "that's the best way to steal the design". oh the irony...
This dude has a lot of nerve coming into another forum and blasting his GFY drama about people when this guy is a fucking scammer himself and lowlife. Every time people post for sale items this idiot chimes in and tries to discredit the seller for some reason or another or anyone for that matter he just don't like. Stay away from ismokeblunts (the uusoftware and sig whore) over at GFY. I like how he says "something was brought to attention on another forum today" spewing his drama in here at netpond. Him and his friend from uugallery or uusoftware already have a nice business rep going. Do a search on GFY and you will see all the shit they stir up with their license holders of uusoftware fucking people over and not only that all the threads this guy puts his long neck in to messing with people for no reason on every forum he goes on.

Xyjak never stoled anything from anyone. Look at yourself before you look at others blunts. Ohh looks like he doesn't know how to spell either from the looks of his post. I want to also mention that he likes to post people's photos and private online information on message forums as well. This guy has no credibility. And if Steveo gets booted for saying these things, so be it. At least I got the information out there to the people. Take it and do what you will with it. I'm sure he has diffrent NICKS also to come in here with to respond to this, so I will sit back and watch and laugh.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:47 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Well here's a big admission of innocence! LOL. Apparently they have pulled their site and parked the domain!

www.xyjak.com

FULLY PWNED. Xyjak goes down! Xyjak goes down!
I'm sure they didn't pull the site cause of him, it's probably because of ismokeblunts, see ismokebluts didn't like the richpornfreak so he went to our hosting company and tried to get our account pulled also by sending them a nice long letter saying we run illegal sites and scam people.. lol What he didn't know at the time is that we were moving servers so for 2 days our site was down, he went around telling people on GFY that he had our account suspended.. My hosting company laughed at him. This is his MO, is to email your host, so I would infact bet that ismokeblunts emailed this guys host to make up some shit story on he he's stealing stuff from people to get his site pulled. Beware this guy has some major serious problems just ask the owners of hosthead.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:03 AM   #50 (permalink)
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No no no no no. You are not turning this into GFY. Knock this shit off NOW. I know all about you, who you are, and your crap will NOT fly on this forum. Got it?

You have an issue with someone from another forum? Take it up there. This is your one and only warning.

After all, if you want to bring up things from another forum, there is quite a bit that could be said about you, isn't there???
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:11 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I often wonder about copyright grey areas......

I am not saying that this is guys stuff falls into a grey area - he shouldn't have done it 100%.

But, sometimes you are 'inspired' by a site - the look and feel.

When do you cross the line?
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:46 PM   #52 (permalink)
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bah,
this isnt the only designer reselling.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:29 PM   #53 (permalink)
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RPFREAK, all I can tell you we don't like old threads bumped here as you did few times already
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
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i was really saddened by the demise of Xyjak. i actually had placed some orders for some work (mainly programming changes to the WP core) just before all this came to a head. i did think that i had lost my cash but no, he was true to his word and even provided a lot of aftersale support. i told him to let me know if he was going to start up again as i wanted to remain a customer but he said that now his rep has been destroyed, there was no point.
This was a real shame as i found his work very good and he seemed very trustful, i am also lead to believe via my own research that the themes in question were actually supplied to him by a third party.
oh well.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:24 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Thanks for the heads up man, we must be more careful.
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:22 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Rogue, I believe he still has a mainstream design site.

He did 2 designs for me, one which I could not use and fought with him over a refund which he refused to issue (2checkout did, though) and another, one which had a custom toon I really liked. But once the accusations came out, I was afraid to use the one good design in case it was stolen, so deleted it for a refund.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:43 PM   #57 (permalink)
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the 90% of the adult biz (at least webmastering) still illegal, cheaters.
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:33 PM   #58 (permalink)
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thanks, I almost bought a template from him. But now I will buy from template monster
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