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Old 03-13-2008, 03:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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good luck at whatever your real job ends up being.
You're not cut out to last in adult.
Aren't you the blinking bully
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So you believe in dishonest marketing techniques?

My best converting paysite sponsors don't want me, or anyone else, to use any third party content to promote their sites.

That's because they make their own content. And that's what they want their affiliates to promote. My job is to promote their content and their paysite/s, not someone else's.

I'm not interest, for the most part, in promoting cookie cutter sites. I'm not interest in conversion ratios any worse than 1:300.

I don't like chargebacks, or believe in doing shit that is likely to lead to them. Like using pictures of a girl to promote a paysite when she isn't featured in the member's area.
what do you do for a living, honey?
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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what do you do for a living, honey?
I don't put all my eggs in one basket.

And of course I'm genetically predisposed to multitasking
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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since the topic is "unhelpful" sponsors ill just add this warning to all:
fetishhits skim ratio 1:2000
they give u 1 for every 2000 u send them. tested by me, sent em 2000 hits, on my stats said i have 1 raw and 1 unique lol
i have tracker software on the back end which keeps track of all links clicked on my site and all incoming visitors referals etc etc
screenshots available, so if you like getting ripped off, then Fetish Hits v3 - The Ultimate Webmaster Program is your site if you like makin money, http://www.cecash.com would be better suited i wont reveal my best sponsor
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Its impossible, if they gave you 1 click for 2000 you send them it would be all over the boards and laughed at a lot. I mean 1:10 is still maybe possible somewhere, but 1:2000 ......
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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well heres the proof 2 screenshots 1 of my click tracking 2nd of my fetish hits stats lol in the click tracker screenshot alone shows 315 clicks on their links, if i could fit all 2000 clicks in the SS i would sadly i couldnt but i think 315 is enough to make my point, heres the screenshot for the stats:
http://www.freexxxblogs.com/mystats.jpg

and the fetish hits stats:
http://www.freexxxblogs.com/fetish.jpg
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:47 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Maybe you should ask them how they count clicks before you go ahead and start accusing them of skimming. At the end of the day though clicks dont mean shit to me. I know how much my traffic is worth.
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:51 PM   #28 (permalink)
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raw to uniques count cause thats how people count conversion ratios. if they get 10 clicks from me raw or unique it should say 10 clicks recieved raw or unique nothing else to say about that there is no reason for why that could have happened, people sell traffic BY CLICKS im not here to give out free traffic.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:04 PM   #29 (permalink)
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raw to uniques count cause thats how people count conversion ratios. if they get 10 clicks from me raw or unique it should say 10 clicks recieved raw or unique nothing else to say about that there is no reason for why that could have happened, people sell traffic BY CLICKS im not here to give out free traffic.
dude, some people dont count gallery hits, some people only count second page hits. If you have CJ traffic and are just popping the gallery and there is no clickthrough, they may not be counting it. i'm just saying that before you come in here and try and hurt a programs reputation it may be worth your while to icq/email them and ask them how they count.

It has to be time consuming coming here and defending yourself rather than a simple email. For the record I have never sent any traffic to fetish hits so I have no idea how they perform or count.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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no sponsor counts gallery hits, it would be ridiculous. Sponsor count hits to the tour from gallery. (If thats the case here with fhg)
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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i know where my clicks went to... not gonna go proving every step i take, when and if it happens to you, then we will see how you feel.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i know where my clicks went to... not gonna go proving every step i take, when and if it happens to you, then we will see how you feel.
well i can tell you I wouldnt send 2000 uniques without noticing it so it would have never happened to me in the first place. When i get a sponsor up (even existing) and I know traffic should be flowing in, I keep a close eye on stats the first 10-15 minutes. This is in case I made a mistake.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
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so you sent 2000 hits to sponsor tour and they counted only 1? Its impossible, NO sponsor would count 0.05% hits. Lol everybodies ratios would look like 1:1 and those having 1:2 would be the worst performers
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:14 PM   #34 (permalink)
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no sponsor counts gallery hits, it would be ridiculous. Sponsor count hits to the tour from gallery. (If thats the case here with fhg)
im guessing thats exactly what it is thats why i brought it up. look at the URL's in this pic.

http://www.freexxxblogs.com/mystats.jpg
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:41 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:40 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Mmm.

Well I promote Fetish Hits' bisexual sites. Checking my stats, these are my conversion ratios for the passed 4 years:
Bisexuals Hardcore = 1:69
Extreme Bisexual = 1:294

My best mmf bisexual site sponsor does about 1:50 so I can't say I see anything fishy with FH.
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:50 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I also noticed that fetishhits really doesn't count every click, just lik bangbros does. Maybe they only show us join clicks, that's why the ratios look really good.

But it's not fair from the view of other sponsors, who shows you all the stats (unique front page, 2nd page and join ratios)
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:57 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I have never asked a sponsor for anthing special before however Mayor from Mayorsmoney helped me out in the past by going over my entire site and making suggestions of what he thought would convert and where which was beyond the call of duty. Mainly I say if you find them that will keep em and work with them if not keep em anyhow it's just a bonus if they are willing to take time out of their busy schedule to help you on your problems as they are just that your problems.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:53 AM   #39 (permalink)
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We try and help anyone who asks for it but the truth is we're limited by the amount of time we get vs number of sponsors. If an affiliate asked for some specific banners, I'd probably give them the permission to use some content only in building banners for the promotion of our site.

I see your point about not wanting to work with someone who won't help you but I also think your being a little petty. Frankly, I think affiliates ask for too much and our highest converting and best affiliates are usually the ones who ask for very little - if nothing at all, because they're too busy using tried and tested methods of their own for sending traffic.

Email me with any requests, if I can do it, I will. If I can't, I'll try and give you the next best thing, advice.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:32 AM   #40 (permalink)
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This still doesn't change the fact, that when you ask a sponsor for something if they are not prepared to help, then they are not worth the effort of promoting.
I agree with the others. Asking for banners is ok, but you cannot be suprised if they don't have the time for custom work for each (small) affiliate. Ask for some pics to create your own banners that will match the content on their site, instead of dropping them, if that's the only problem you have with that sponsor.

I'm a horrible designer. But a simple 2 frame animated banner I made almost 10 years ago still has the best ctr. Just food for thoughts...
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