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Old 03-17-2008, 09:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Did the internet reinvent communism?

ok, so i'm not a conspiricist - honestly! but, when the technology of the internet was released from darpa, it was for spreading information. good and bad, information and misinformation, free content and copyrighted content all flies back and forth across the internet daily.

opensource software has really taken off due to the nature of the internet - where international programmers coloborate and program - essentially without getting paid.

musicians write and upload music for free dl, people blog for free - information about themselves, all freely available. so, it goes without saying that copyrighted videos, music, pornography can all be accessed for free too - it is 'information'.

so, is copyright being destroyed by this easy accessibility?

is a type of world being created where digital content is created for the 'good' of mankind, and spread freely using the internet? a kind of communistic, world because it's for the better of mankind, than money world?

there are many technologies still hidden within the us military - why was the internet released? as a distraction to help deter people away from something? hitler wanted radios to be cheap, as he realised the importance of reaching out to the masses and used it to full effect during the war.

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Old 03-17-2008, 09:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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why was the internet released? as a distraction to help deter people away from something? hitler wanted radios to be cheap, as he realised the importance of reaching out to the masses and used it to full effect during the war.
If that was the idea they not only utterly failed, it could become the most
stupid failure in history. Years ago - at a convention in england - one of the
grand old ladys of the internet (can't remember her name) said that the day
politicians start to understand what the internet is they will be scared
shitless. I think that is what is happening now. I am sure a lot of them would
love to shut down the net, but that's not longer possible of course.

Look at china and their desperate efforts to censor the web or european
countries whos bureaucracys dream of doing the same... like finnland for example
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If that was the idea they not only utterly failed, it could become the most
stupid failure in history. Years ago - at a convention in england - one of the
grand old ladys of the internet (can't remember her name) said that the day
politicians start to understand what the internet is they will be scared
shitless. I think that is what is happening now. I am sure a lot of them would
love to shut down the net, but that's not longer possible of course.

Look at china and their desperate efforts to censor the web or european
countries whos bureaucracys dream of doing the same... like finnland for example
you think politicians run the world? let me guess, that terminator guy became the gov of cali because of his many years of political study right, or, maybe because he could rally the ppl as a popular figure whilst being told what to do by someone above?

maybe more work in a country would be done if there was heavy censorship? just think of all the potential work hours wasted from funny pictures and porny pictures being sent around the office - so censorship on a country level actually makes some sort of sense!
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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you think politicians run the world? let me guess, that terminator guy became the gov of cali because of his many years of political study right, or, maybe because he could rally the ppl as a popular figure whilst being told what to do by someone above?
You are right on that one, since i come from a country where some
politicians have 20+ side jobs and public demonstrate that those jobs are
more important than their mandate or their own party i should have
considered that.


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maybe more work in a country would be done if there was heavy censorship? just think of all the potential work hours wasted from funny pictures and porny pictures being sent around the office - so censorship on a country level actually makes some sort of sense!

Like North Korea does? Who needs freedom of information and speech or
freedom itself? Strange thing is that nobody of us (at least i think so) wants
to live in such a country. Don't get me wrong, if a company censors their
internal network, no problem with that. But cencorship at country level is
a different thing.
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well orginialy the idea of the internet was very socialist, heck probably even anarchist in nature. People were free to express ideas on an equal footing with others, and it was real communication, a two way exchange, interactive.

It didn't take very long though for the capitalists to figure out that this was the most powerful marketing medium in history and so today we have a one way form of programming. A glorified TV that you can spend your money on without even leaving the house.

Really when was the last time anything was interactive on the internet? Isn't everything just a ruse to get you to look at ads, and filter you to buy something eventually.

As for the Hitler and radios comment, it's long been established that radios, then TVs and now computers/internet are great for influencing the masses. We must have learned that from all the SS officers we took in to start the CIA after WW2.
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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its really funny that even the internet will also run by communism...
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Really when was the last time anything was interactive on the internet?
Interactive worlds are just starting to see light and it wont be much longer.

Need anyone be reminded of the Matrix?

You will get the interaction you so desire but it may not be as kind as the real world.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well it did give a lot of us the possibility to seize the means of production.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The Internet was released to destroy the English language, and to force people to use incorrect American spelling. Never fear though, there is a secret resistance group dedicated to overthrow the corruption of the world's greatest language.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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opensource software has really taken off due to the nature of the internet - where international programmers coloborate and program - essentially without getting paid.
Plenty of people get paid to work on open source projects. There are IT departments with squads / teams / whateverthelatestbuzzwordforgsubgroups that are dedicated exclusively to working on projects. IBM had one, (I'm not sure that they still do). Sun, of course, and others.

The revenue from open source does not come in from a traditional license scheme, but from either: support contracts for said software, or cost control via better IT systems that do not require licensing and support from the vendor, or both.

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The Internet was released to destroy the English language...
What, that creole language? Pshaw.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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please don't bump old threads refundovich
OK, but I didn't think a one month old thread was old. Is there a guideline on what is old, just for future reference?
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