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Old 04-09-2008, 05:44 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yeah, WHAT THE FUCK? doubleF has no affiliate code in there. He posted a link to this tool thinking it would benefit others. Saying this is spam is ridiculous.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Musical Forum posts .....

Very interesting ...

I'm getting dizzy ...

But somebody's having fun ...

I should apply to be a mod here, so I can amuse myself with the board features too!
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:53 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Musical Forum posts .....

Very interesting ...

I'm getting dizzy ...

But somebody's having fun ...

I should apply to be a mod here, so I can amuse myself with the board features too!
Check your PM inbox.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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well, just downloaded and giving it a try.

So far i feel difference in the loading time of my firefox, for rest can't say..

Looks like i have nice PQI usb drive, doing 11100kb/s random read speed

will be looking how my pc will perform next few days and then can comment it more..

thanks for sharing FF
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:06 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Well I am no expert on hardware but FF seems to know what hes talking about and genuinely was trying to help us ponders. One thing I do know is that I always like to try something myself before I can comment on it so will give this a whirl and see how I go.

Thanks FF
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Well I am no expert on hardware but FF seems to know what hes talking about and genuinely was trying to help us ponders. One thing I do know is that I always like to try something myself before I can comment on it so will give this a whirl and see how I go.

Thanks FF
The reason for my rather sceptical post was for a large part related to the rather sensationalized thread title and the big, fat, bold letters in the post.

I did immediately notice that there was no affiliate code in the links, but aside from that, the entire post had the wording and layout of typical spam (obviously not made better by the partial cut-and-paste from their website).
Not really sure why Facialfreak chose that way of presenting the software, rather than just a slightly more down to earth, webmaster to webmaster recommendation?
If I hadn't hovered my mouse over the links, I would instantly have been thinking "spam!".

In any case, of course nothing short of hardware that's three times faster than what you currently is going to triple your overall system performance.
Alright then, let's say hardware two and a half time as fast and software optimizations - or a non-Windows OS .

I do certainly believe this utility might help speed up application responsiveness and load times (though I'm still not convinced it would do a better job than more RAM, even on XP where unused RAM isn't automatically used for caching, as it is with Vista) - I'm certainly not denying that various forms of cache memory is a proven concept. But it's quite a leap from those kinds neat little speed improvements, to a huge overall performance gain.
Try running that 3D render again and tell me it's done three times as fast as before?
Or encoding a video. Or playing a game? Did your framerate magically go from say 30ish to 90?

I'm fairly certain FF wasn't trying to suggest that, but then why that headline?
Even if it is moderated in the actual post to use words like "access speed" and "the booting of your OS and applications".
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:25 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The reason for my rather sceptical post was for a large part related to the rather sensationalized thread title and the big, fat, bold letters in the post.

I did immediately notice that there was no affiliate code in the links, but aside from that, the entire post had the wording and layout of typical spam (obviously not made better by the partial cut-and-paste from their website).
Not really sure why Facialfreak chose that way of presenting the software, rather than just a slightly more down to earth, webmaster to webmaster recommendation?
If I hadn't hovered my mouse over the links, I would instantly have been thinking "spam!".

In any case, of course nothing short of hardware that's three times faster than what you currently is going to triple your overall system performance.
Alright then, let's say hardware two and a half time as fast and software optimizations - or a non-Windows OS .

I do certainly believe this utility might help speed up application responsiveness and load times (though I'm still not convinced it would do a better job than more RAM, even on XP where unused RAM isn't automatically used for caching, as it is with Vista) - I'm certainly not denying that various forms of cache memory is a proven concept. But it's quite a leap from those kinds neat little speed improvements, to a huge overall performance gain.
Try running that 3D render again and tell me it's done three times as fast as before?
Or encoding a video. Or playing a game? Did your framerate magically go from say 30ish to 90?

I'm fairly certain FF wasn't trying to suggest that, but then why that headline?
Even if it is moderated in the actual post to use words like "access speed" and "the booting of your OS and applications".
It is FF's personality. He is far from low key. When he finds something that may actually be useful to other members, he'll tell them about it. He could care less if people actually use it or not. He was just simply telling people about it. It was a genuine post. Nothing behind it whatsoever than the simple fact he found something that may interest other Ponders. Big deal if he used big bold letters, colors, or a thread title that actually gets clicked.

I've been in a 3D environment tonight and did quite well. Things ran much smoother than a few nights ago. Even played a few games to mess around just to see. Things went fine. Guaranteed, I didn't look at the exact number, but I can say that things ran much easier than before. Haven't tried rendering a video though, so don't know how that goes.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:10 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I tried it on my old laptop. It was a visible difference in speed.

Speed without eboost 3.664317 mb/s
Speed with 18.505600 mb/s
ratio 5.050218

That is with a 1.6 processor with 2 gig of ram, and 2 gig of cache.

I bet it will help video renders. On my desktop with readyboost, it speeds up video encoding quite a bit.
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:29 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I tried it on my old laptop. It was a visible difference in speed.

Speed without eboost 3.664317 mb/s
Speed with 18.505600 mb/s
ratio 5.050218

That is with a 1.6 processor with 2 gig of ram, and 2 gig of cache.

I bet it will help video renders. On my desktop with readyboost, it speeds up video encoding quite a bit.
Wow, that's 6 times faster!
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I tried it on my old laptop. It was a visible difference in speed.

Speed without eboost 3.664317 mb/s
Speed with 18.505600 mb/s
ratio 5.050218

That is with a 1.6 processor with 2 gig of ram, and 2 gig of cache.

I bet it will help video renders. On my desktop with readyboost, it speeds up video encoding quite a bit.
My mother asked me to download PAY IT FORWARD for her, (Keven Spacey - 2000, and definitely worth a view if you have not already seen it 5 times!!), and the only copy onliine I could find was Xvid ... her DVD player is a Kmart special and won't play DivX codecs, so I had to upconvert it to VOB for her ...

With my fossil of a graphics card (Dual head RADEON 7000VE) I was able up upconvert a 702MB XviD file to VOB in about 44 minutes ... about 2.8 times faster than real time NTSC (29.976fps), where previously a similar upconversion was just a bit longer than the playing time ...

I've been kicking the tires of this software for almost 24 hours now, and using professional benchmarks too (SANDRA) ... and it just keeps getting better and better ..

If sharing my enthusiasm is a crime, then yes I am guilty. Of course others that try this software, YMMV, because unless your test invironment was identical to mine, I would be very disappointed if your results did not differ ...

I posted this thread for anybody who cared ... If it is not your cuppa tea, then fuck you very much, and have a nice day! Misery loves company ...

Too anybody else who plays with this software, and gets any degree of desirable results from it ... that's GREAT, and I'd be curious to hear about them!!

Be excellent to each other ...

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Old 04-10-2008, 11:44 AM   #32 (permalink)
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The thing that I find amusing, several months ago, I posted about how Readyboost sped up certain things on my Vista desktop. At the time, FF told me I must be imagining that it was faster.
Thanks for the link, and the software FF...it makes using this old laptop closer to bearable.
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:26 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The thing that I find amusing, several months ago, I posted about how Readyboost sped up certain things on my Vista desktop. At the time, FF told me I must be imagining that it was faster.
Thanks for the link, and the software FF...it makes using this old laptop closer to bearable.
Oh???? LOL!

Could you link me to that?




EDIT: The only other thread that discusses ReadyBoost, I don't even post in it... you sure it was me??
I am one of the very few that actually know what cache does ... and it is not adding 2 to 99 ...
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:05 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Ok, I have been testing this for a week. In my experience, you see really good gains on laptops, but high end desktops with plenty of cache already, you will see less of a performance gain. I got my dual core back up again and just playing with it yesterday, it would seem that data access speeds vary from 1.7 to 2.2 times. I would say this software is well worth the price
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:54 AM   #35 (permalink)
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SANDRA is one of the better benchmarking suites available. It is trusted by more Network Administrators than any other benchmarking software commercially available.

SiSoftware SANDRA XII - Benchmark, diagnostic software
Can you post screenshoots of actual benchmarks?

I don't understand, nand (flash) memory has near 10MB/s random read speeds, any SATA $100 disk has over 60MB/s, so I really do not see any point in this.

Just put firefox to use 50GB for it's cache on second disk drive and you will have throughput of 60+ MB/s.

This would have sense with SSD drives who have 100+ MB/s average troughput (Samsung 1TB drive has 91MB/s, check Tom's Hardware charts 3.5" Hard Drive Charts | Tom's Hardware ).
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:57 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Can you post screenshoots of actual benchmarks?

I don't understand, nand (flash) memory has near 10MB/s random read speeds, any SATA $100 disk has over 60MB/s, so I really do not see any point in this.

Just put firefox to use 50GB for it's cache on second disk drive and you will have throughput of 60+ MB/s.

This would have sense with SSD drives who have 100+ MB/s average troughput (Samsung 1TB drive has 91MB/s, check Tom's Hardware charts 3.5" Hard Drive Charts | Tom's Hardware ).
Ummmm ... first off, this has to do with general system performance ... NOT FIREFOX ... you can set the FIREFOX cache to 20 GAZILLION GB for all I fucking care ... I am talking about how fast programs like photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, Maya, blender, 3dsm, etc, etc, etc open .... how fast your system shuts down and/or reboots ...

If I want super fast internet browsing, I'll just use Safari ...

Like I stated earlier ... I posted this thread for the benefit of anybody who wanted it ... if it's not your cup of tea, then FUCK YOU VERY MUCH and move on ....

THERE IS NO NEED FOR PEOPLE TO BE POSTING NEGATIVITY IN THIS THREAD!

I have learned my lesson, and will from now on refrain from posting stuff that I think might just benefit some poeple.

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Old 04-14-2008, 12:12 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Ok here's my results so far.

I really feel difference in my pc initial boot and programs startup. Initial boot is about 2 times faster. Programs startup is about 3-4 faster.

Take in mind i am testing it on my laptop on which i work everyday - Dell Latitute D505, 1GB ram, 1.7Ghz Intel, 120GB HDD.

Also i disabled the windows page file when i started using the proggie because it makes no sense to use caching on 2ndary drive when the main windows cache file is on same primary hdd.

Program really improves pc speed if you have fast 2ndary drive and if you close and open programs frequenty. If you just open 2 programs and don't close them all day you won't see any difference.

Will be testing the proggie bit more and probably will purchase it. Probably will install it and on the other desktop pc i have here..will see how it will handle there..

QUESTION: since you mentioned Firefox cache, does anyone know how i can tell it to put it on 2ndary drive and not in the default profile directory.
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:22 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'm sorry if I am coming off as a little bit abrasive in my last post ... but I have not had near enough coffee yet, and my grocery service messed up my order, after being two hours late ...

But seriously peeps .... if this does not appeal to you, or you are skeptical, cynical, or both, then just move on ... how hard is that?!?
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First, create the cache on the other drive. Next, in the address bar type in about:config and look for this entry:

browser.cache.disk.parent_directory

Once you find it, double click on it and change the location to the other drive.

Restart FF.

If you don't have that entry, then click on any entry, right click, select New, String. In the first box, enter the entry above, then in the second box, enter the new location. Restart FF.
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