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Old 04-15-2008, 11:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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REV Sponsors that charge europeans in euro's ..

A bunch of you guys do a 1:1 conversion .. $29.95 for americans €29.95 for europeans .. thats a nice 50% extra for you.

But how do you payout your affiliates .. actually by the few sponsors I use, that do that .. I always end up getting the x% of the american value .. and never seen my cut increase .. (good I could maybe just have american signups, you would know, I don't.)

So who of you guys do actually pay-out the x% of euro signups ?

Secondly, sure adding a 50% extra to europeans to signup to your site is nice for you. But there are tons of review sites out there and other type of webmasters who promote your site with the $value .. Most europeans aint that dumb that when they show up at your signup page and see the same value in € there comes just one thing in mind. "hah I'm getting screwed".

Not the fact thats almost daily news for months that the us$ is getting lower in value .. compared to the euro .. and people being encouraged to buy things in $ if they could .. don't you think offering them the price in $ or a normal conversion rate to euro .. would do you much better?

And last but not least!
Sweden has it's own value SEK .. giving swedes euro options instead of dollars .. with an insane 1:1 conversion ratio is just screwing yourself.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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A bunch of you guys do a 1:1 conversion .. $29.95 for americans €29.95 for europeans .. thats a nice 50% extra for you.

But how do you payout your affiliates .. actually by the few sponsors I use, that do that .. I always end up getting the x% of the american value .. and never seen my cut increase .. (good I could maybe just have american signups, you would know, I don't.)

So who of you guys do actually pay-out the x% of euro signups ?

Secondly, sure adding a 50% extra to europeans to signup to your site is nice for you. But there are tons of review sites out there and other type of webmasters who promote your site with the $value .. Most europeans aint that dumb that when they show up at your signup page and see the same value in € there comes just one thing in mind. "hah I'm getting screwed".

Not the fact thats almost daily news for months that the us$ is getting lower in value .. compared to the euro .. and people being encouraged to buy things in $ if they could .. don't you think offering them the price in $ or a normal conversion rate to euro .. would do you much better?

And last but not least!
Sweden has it's own value SEK .. giving swedes euro options instead of dollars .. with an insane 1:1 conversion ratio is just screwing yourself.
Fair question.

Our program titanbucks bills all CC's in euros, but we have to do checks and phone billing in $us. All funds are converted to $us and then paid out. If you made sales in euros you get them converted to $ ... there is no way we would pay you the same $ amount ... thats dishonest.

I don't know about other programs but many pay in euros now but still bill in $... so you are actually getting the same money as if you were getting paid in $. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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A bunch of you guys do a 1:1 conversion .. $29.95 for americans €29.95 for europeans .. thats a nice 50% extra for you.

But how do you payout your affiliates .. actually by the few sponsors I use, that do that .. I always end up getting the x% of the american value .. and never seen my cut increase .. (good I could maybe just have american signups, you would know, I don't.)

So who of you guys do actually pay-out the x% of euro signups ?

Secondly, sure adding a 50% extra to europeans to signup to your site is nice for you. But there are tons of review sites out there and other type of webmasters who promote your site with the $value .. Most europeans aint that dumb that when they show up at your signup page and see the same value in € there comes just one thing in mind. "hah I'm getting screwed".

Not the fact thats almost daily news for months that the us$ is getting lower in value .. compared to the euro .. and people being encouraged to buy things in $ if they could .. don't you think offering them the price in $ or a normal conversion rate to euro .. would do you much better?

And last but not least!
Sweden has it's own value SEK .. giving swedes euro options instead of dollars .. with an insane 1:1 conversion ratio is just screwing yourself.
Spacash charge EU people [pps/revshare] in Eur
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A bunch of you guys do a 1:1 conversion .. $29.95 for americans €29.95 for europeans .. thats a nice 50% extra for you.
That fucking stinks and I would never knowingly promote any CUNT program that does that.


LB's site does it the right way, charging everyone the same, fair price to join.

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Old 04-15-2008, 11:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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CCBill recently introduced regional billing where they charge europeans in euro's etc, however if you are signed up for 50% revshare you get 50% no matter whether they are billed in euros or dollars.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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And last but not least!
Sweden has it's own value SEK .. giving swedes euro options instead of dollars .. with an insane 1:1 conversion ratio is just screwing yourself.
I'm not sure about the Swedish Krone, but the Danish Krone is locked against the Euro, so a hundred Euro to us is exactly the same one month as it is the next.
But maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say? I haven't had breakfast yet, so my brain is still half asleep .
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not sure about the Swedish Krone, but the Danish Krone is locked against the Euro, so a hundred Euro to us is exactly the same one month as it is the next.
But maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say? I haven't had breakfast yet, so my brain is still half asleep .

With that I mean .. thats is when you are a US sponsor and by default charge in US dollars .. but show europeans only EURO options, they should lock that to countries that have euro's .. it's like I setup a site in EURO's and charge Koreans in what ever value the chinese have just because it's both in asia ...
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Try Orgycash and Private Cash.

They are both Europe based, revshare and charge and payout in Euros.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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With that I mean .. thats is when you are a US sponsor and by default charge in US dollars .. but show europeans only EURO options, they should lock that to countries that have euro's .. it's like I setup a site in EURO's and charge Koreans in what ever value the chinese have just because it's both in asia ...
Yeah, that's true, it is a bit of an insult to our national currency and identity , but personally I don't really care about the currency when I'm shopping online - porn or anything else.
I've got a calculator , I can figure out what's cheap and what's not - and since I'm so used to paying online in USD or EUR, I often don't even bother finding out exactly what it amounts to in DKK.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm not sure about the Swedish Krone, but the Danish Krone is locked against the Euro, so a hundred Euro to us is exactly the same one month as it is the next.
But maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're trying to say? I haven't had breakfast yet, so my brain is still half asleep .
Nope. As far as I know Danish Krone is the only currency that has a locked exchange rate against euro.

There are several sites that has geo-targeted prizes down to the countrys currency though. The last one I saw was melissa midwest's site that charges in SEK for Swedes.
I think alot more programs should take after this.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Nope. As far as I know Danish Krone is the only currency that has a locked exchange rate against euro.
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Actually, if my brain had been awake I would have been aware of that .
I've seen the SEK fluctuate against the DKK every time I check the exchange rates on my bank's website (usually to see how far the Dollar has plummeted ).
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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interesting question
have thought about this also , when seeing that they charge euro to dollar 1on1 conversion

not many sponsors rushing into this thread???
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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TopBucks charges all surfers in their local currency. Webmasters can promote us either on PPS or on Revshare, when we're cutting off the 70% for revshare the amount webmaster gets paid is being calculated based on the local price the surfer paid.

E.g. a surfer paid $49.95 for a monthly subscription, webmaster will get 70% of $49.95 (not $39.95 which is our standard US price)
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Secondly, sure adding a 50% extra to europeans to signup to your site is nice for you. But there are tons of review sites out there and other type of webmasters who promote your site with the $value .. Most europeans aint that dumb that when they show up at your signup page and see the same value in € there comes just one thing in mind. "hah I'm getting screwed".

Yes, I agree with you, but actually it's the responsibility of both parties to ask/notify whether re-calculated prices are used for surfers from different countries. That would make our lives a lot easier if review sites mentioned for particular sites or sponsors, that their monthly subscription prices vary from country to country based on the standard of living in those countries (like LocalBilling does).

Secondly don't forget, while it's more expensive for surfers in some European countries, it's cheaper for surfers in poor countries which makes subscription affordable for them. I think it's fair since the value of 1$ in the US and in India for example is completely different.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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TopBucks charges all surfers in their local currency. Webmasters can promote us either on PPS or on Revshare, when we're cutting off the 70% for revshare the amount webmaster gets paid is being calculated based on the local price the surfer paid.

E.g. a surfer paid $49.95 for a monthly subscription, webmaster will get 70% of $49.95 (not $39.95 which is our standard US price)
But for pps (which most of your wm's use) you pay the standard $ pps payout even if you charged in euros right ?
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But for pps (which most of your wm's use) you pay the standard $ pps payout even if you charged in euros right ?
Yes, right. PPS rate is standard. I don't know of any program paying different PPS rate if a surfer signs up for 3 months or for a year at once for example You can see a difference in this case only if you're on revshare.
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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And what about people in Europe who are from countries which are not in EU, is it the same.
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nice site but the thumbs took ages for loading, are they hosted by the sponsors or is your host just slow?
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