Instaban for bashers? Yes this is a fucking drama.

[Donkey]

The past few threads I replied to made me sick. Some people are so full of shit? Why don't we stick with doing GOOD BUSINESS, NOT GREEDY BUSINESS instead of bashing others?

When you don't agree with the price or the way people advertise what they are trying to sell, why people feel the need to bash them and start calling them scammers when you never dealt with them?

The price is always a question for the buyer... If u dont like the price, don't buy. Simple rule. It is a business. If the price is too high, there will be someone else who will offer a better price. Simple rule of the market.
When you go to a restaurant, do you argue about prices? I would love to see that.

Some people may not offer a good deal for you, but maybe somebody else could be interested. What is disturbing that people don't post their deal in the thread. Only bash the seller.

Right now I am selling a domain with no content for 4900 euro... why do I get called a scammer? You see what you get. It just means many people can't afford or don't want to buy it from me, I don't even think anyone on Netpond would buy it. You can laugh if you want, doesn't change the price and eventually I find a buyer.

When you are trying to imply that domain is worth reg. fee and nothing more thats just plain nonsense. The same goes for the work people put into making the site/installing script. Not everyone has your brilliant skills and some people want to pay for such services. Why do you feel so big need to call that rip off?

Why people feel need to bring on problems that Netpond is nicely dealing with?

Hate. Bashing. Why some people feel such need? Why don't we make constructive business threads instead or even stupid, silly threads. I am sick of this shit that is going on on Netpond lately.

[ristac]

Well ban me as well then because I see this as your way of being sneaky into telling everyone you have a $10 domain name for sale for $7,777 dollars and you are right, I would be amazed if anyone on Netpond would want to buy it.

Worried not enough publicity on the domain name forum?

[pam]

Well, a referral link to a sale in a bitching thread. LOL.

Our job here is to help newbies. If someone offers a domain for a really high price, we don't want newbies sucked into paying an exhorbitant amount for a crap domain. Repeatedly trying to sell crap for big bucks could be called scamming.

If someone offers design services for $300, there is nothing wrong saying we think the price is too high. The designer may be new to the adult industry and not realize the price structure is different than that of mainstream. It also lets newbies know that the price is somewhat high and they could maybe get it done for a better price, perhaps from a Netpond regular poster.

Instaban for bashers? How about instaban for creative spam posters?

[Head Boy]

Selling and valuing domain names is a difficult business. Every name is unique, and can have multiple uses, and this gives rise to distorted ideas of value. These can be both over and under realistic figures. Netpond is a board for new webmasters, and many established members try to protect them from what they perceive to be exploitation. Abusive attacks over prices that are quoted as start points for negotiation are not constructive.It would be better to discuss potential traffic and roi in my opinion.

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by Donkey

Why don't we stick with doing GOOD BUSINESS, NOT GREEDY BUSINESS?

offering that domain for 4.9k euro is very GREEDY.

Originally Posted by Donkey

The price is always a question for the buyer... If u dont like the price, don't buy. Simple rule. It is a business. If the price is too high, there will be someone else who will offer a better price. Simple rule of the market.
When you go to a restaurant, do you argue about prices? I would love to see that.

when a restaurant tries to sell me a steak for 1000$ what do ya think i will call them lol?

Originally Posted by Donkey

Right now I am selling a domain with no content for 4900 euro... why do I get called a scammer? You see what you get. It just means many people can't afford or don't want to buy it from me, I don't even think anyone on Netpond would buy it. You can laugh if you want, doesn't change the price and eventually I find a buyer.

you're not a scammer in the technical sense. you just put out a way overpriced offer. deal with the criticism and move on. if you don't think a ponder will buy it why do ya advertise it here?

Originally Posted by Donkey

When you are trying to imply that domain is worth reg. fee

it might be worth a little more. but UM doesn't mean anything and very few ppl type in xxxum. yes it is brandable to some extent. but i'd say if you get 100 bucks for it you can be happy. the discrepancy to your asking price is too huge, that's why ppl will "bash" you for that discrepancy.

[Dutch Harry]

Nice linkbait Donkey

[ScreaM]

I say instantly ban creative spammers.

[VirtuMike]

My job is not to help newbies. My job is to sell top shelf webhosting in Amsterdam at Eurotivity.

Sometimes I can do this by creatively posting on someone else's ranting threads. Like today.

My take? Hey, it's a free market economy. How exactly is he scamming? He's not withholding information or lying, he just put a domain name on an auction site with the minimum price he would accept to part with it. If you don't want it, that's fine, but don't bash him for trying to sell it.

I bet if someone asked you for one of your domains you'd come up with a price others would think of as unreasonably high. It's his and he can do what he sees fit with it.

Who here is a certified domain appraiser? Who ever heard of such a thing?

[ristac]

Originally Posted by VirtuMike

My job is not to help newbies. My job is to sell top shelf webhosting in Amsterdam at Eurotivity.

Sometimes I can do this by creatively posting on someone else's ranting threads. Like today.

My take? Hey, it's a free market economy. How exactly is he scamming? He's not withholding information or lying, he just put a domain name on an auction site with the minimum price he would accept to part with it. If you don't want it, that's fine, but don't bash him for trying to sell it.

I bet if someone asked you for one of your domains you'd come up with a price others would think of as unreasonably high. It's his and he can do what he sees fit with it.

Who here is a certified domain appraiser? Who ever heard of such a thing?

Stop being a cock and read the whole thread... Nobody has called him a scammer... He leaves a shit statement about how he is sick of people who bash and that they should be banned when all he was really doing was looking for an excuse to drop a link in. Lets all do it shall we and turn this whole forum into a spam arena.

Just to add... I would not touch your hosting with a barge poll if you need to use tactics like this to drum up business.

[Head Boy]

Just to put things in context - here's a sale on Ebay.
TheBestPrice.com FINEST DOMAIN NAME LOCATION ON THE WWW - eBay (item 130213872338 end time Apr-18-08 08:30:48 PDT)

Please note - there is a $10 charge for shipping by UPS on this domain name.

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by VirtuMike

My job is not to help newbies. My job is to sell top shelf webhosting in Amsterdam at ...

that's a very uncreative spam. we can see that from your sig.

[Rofl]

Originally Posted by pam

Well, a referral link to a sale in a bitching thread.

Well, it's gonna happen eventually, so the OP got in their first, get it over and done with and out the way, before any of the usual suspects do it for them...lol

[seeandsee]

SEE SIG .......[15chars]

[rvince]

Originally Posted by Donkey

When you are trying to imply that domain is worth reg. fee and nothing more thats just plain nonsense. The same goes for the work people put into making the site/installing script. Not everyone has your brilliant skills and some people want to pay for such services. Why do you feel so big need to call that rip off?

That domain seems imho overpriced, but I guess you just know what you're doing and have a good reason to ask this price (interesting keyword in another language, etc).

The problem you mention is exactly why I now don't bother answering the threads asking for tech help: (Most) adult webmasters don't understand why a good coder asks at least 50EUR/hr. My mainstream clients are very happy with it however

[nottslad]

Noticed your link to the "scam" entry on wikipedia, if you scroll a little further down on the same page you'll find this entry. It refers to selling tangible items for more than what they are worth.

Example:
"The Coin collecting scam is a scam that preys on inexperienced collectors, coins or otherwise. The con man convinces the mark by stating that a high-priced collection is for sale at a lower amount. The coin collector then buys the entire collection thinking it is actually valuable."

Originally Posted by Donkey

When you are trying to imply that domain is worth reg. fee and nothing more thats just plain nonsense.

I agree that's nonsense. It's not even worth the reg fee.

[Rofl]

Originally Posted by rvince

The problem you mention is exactly why I now don't bother answering the threads asking for tech help: (Most) adult webmasters don't understand why a good coder asks at least 50EUR/hr. My mainstream clients are very happy with it however

Ne'er a truer word spoken in a flame grilled thread!

[hardcoreblogger]

Originally Posted by rvince

The problem you mention is exactly why I now don't bother answering the threads asking for tech help: (Most) adult webmasters don't understand why a good coder asks at least 50EUR/hr. My mainstream clients are very happy with it however

very well said. 50 euro is too damn cheap for a good coder!

[BadWolf]

Jaysis. This place is turning into a circus.

[kaktusan]

Originally Posted by rvince

The problem you mention is exactly why I now don't bother answering the threads asking for tech help: (Most) adult webmasters don't understand why a good coder asks at least 50EUR/hr. My mainstream clients are very happy with it however

brilliant words, $vote++