Looking for mentor, and a few questions

[Athanx]

I'm currently looking for a mentor to help me get on the right path for galleries, TGPs and blogs... I'm a very experienced (web) programmer (With a lot of work under my belt) that can offer a lot back to anyone willing to mentor me. I hesitate to mention this, but I've already created an auto-gallery generator (Complete with a proper thumbnail generator), which allows me to make 3 galleries in less then 2 minutes, without breaking a sweat.

I'd be willing to sign up under any sponsors, offer any scripts the mentor needs, etc... As long as they are willing to take me under their wing, and get me to a point where I understand the scene, and what I need to do to make this profitable.


That aside, I have a few questions:

• 1) Should I buy more domains? Currently I have a partner, I make the galleries, he submits them using chameleon submitter*, and we're starting to realize that we can only successfully do 3 galleries a day on this domain.
• 2) Going off #1, could I just use some random domain I have lying around? The names aren't really porn related, but they're not being used for anything and I'd like to finally get a sale. I've only had about a combined total of 120 clicks on a total of 3 sponsors, with 6 galleries submitted (Three of them last night)
• *3) Would it be worth it to buy myself a chameleon submitter license? So both my partner and I have one, and we can knock out more galleries per day (Assuming I get more domains)
• 4) Is chameleon confirmer worth it? I was thinking about just writing something on my own, but I've noticed there are at least 6 distinct types of confirmation emails, two of which would still require some kind of human interaction, and I just hate reinventing the wheel when the wheel is cheap :P
• 5) Should I bother with partner accounts yet? Seeing as I haven't made a sale, I wouldn't think it'd be worth the risk... However I don't know how many sales/clicks I'd get out of it.

Sorry for so many questions, but I tend to hold back til they all build up so I'm not making multiple threads a day

[hardcoreblogger]

my advice is don't rely on submitting galleries only. if you're a coder you should have no problems building lots of sites, of different types, experiment and see what works best for you. what is it that you offer to someone mentoring you?

[Head Boy]

I wouldn't rely on gallery submissions these days.

Mainstream domains are woth more than porn names, and you'll devalue them by using them for porn.

Why do you need more domains for submissions? One reason I can think of is to avoid submission restrictions. If you go down that route, then you run the risk of being found out and branded as a cheater. I believe that multiple domains linked to a hub create a good structure, but you should use the same email and login for all submissions.

[Phreak]

Originally Posted by Athanx

I'm currently looking for a mentor to help me get on the right path for galleries, TGPs and blogs... I'm a very experienced (web) programmer (With a lot of work under my belt) that can offer a lot back to anyone willing to mentor me. I hesitate to mention this, but I've already created an auto-gallery generator (Complete with a proper thumbnail generator), which allows me to make 3 galleries in less then 2 minutes, without breaking a sweat.

I'd be willing to sign up under any sponsors, offer any scripts the mentor needs, etc... As long as they are willing to take me under their wing, and get me to a point where I understand the scene, and what I need to do to make this profitable.


That aside, I have a few questions:

• 1) Should I buy more domains? Currently I have a partner, I make the galleries, he submits them using chameleon submitter*, and we're starting to realize that we can only successfully do 3 galleries a day on this domain.
• 2) Going off #1, could I just use some random domain I have lying around? The names aren't really porn related, but they're not being used for anything and I'd like to finally get a sale. I've only had about a combined total of 120 clicks on a total of 3 sponsors, with 6 galleries submitted (Three of them last night)
• *3) Would it be worth it to buy myself a chameleon submitter license? So both my partner and I have one, and we can knock out more galleries per day (Assuming I get more domains)
• 4) Is chameleon confirmer worth it? I was thinking about just writing something on my own, but I've noticed there are at least 6 distinct types of confirmation emails, two of which would still require some kind of human interaction, and I just hate reinventing the wheel when the wheel is cheap :P
• 5) Should I bother with partner accounts yet? Seeing as I haven't made a sale, I wouldn't think it'd be worth the risk... However I don't know how many sales/clicks I'd get out of it.

Sorry for so many questions, but I tend to hold back til they all build up so I'm not making multiple threads a day

Hey Athanx, welcome to the pond...

I'll try to answer your questions, if someone disagrees, correct me...

1) Not the domain is logged but the IP from the submitter, so If you have multile IP's you could submit more. But be carefull with that. TGP owners could blacklist you if you break their rules. Make sure you submit to the bigger sites like thehun and/or buy submit account, you could buy 1 at shemp.com. I hear that shemp gives great traffic...
2) You could use any domainame you like, but for SEO a domainname with some keywords is more valuable.
3)Yeah off course, submitting from 2 different IP's and 2 or more different domains would do the trick... But take the previous warming into account!!
4)Sorry, don't use it yet...
5)see answer on Q1. Paid partner account could be worth it if well choosen.

Next to gallery submitting I'm building my own TGP filled with sponsor galleries and have some splogs running. And I'm working on hubpages for my submitted galleries.

Hopefully you can do something with this...

[Athanx]

Thanks all, I wasn't sure if I should rely on gallery submissions and now I know better! :P

Anyways, as for what I offer to a mentor:
(Assuming they know what they're talking about, provide actual help, etc.)

• Almost anything they need made, script wise, I can make for them. Close to 10 years experience in PHP, MySQL, etc.
• Signing up under them on sponsors (Their webmaster affiliate links)
• A lot of hard work put in on my own site(s), and any sites they need help with
• Whatever else they need

Like I said, this all depends on whether or not they can actually help me get started, and get me to a point where I'm actually making a profit... A friend of mine had a mentor from here, who just sent them a link every week... Not very helpful.
I have a lot of questions, and know probably next to nothing compared to 90% of you here, so... Yeah

[Phreak]

Athanx,

You do not need a mentor... The advise I can give you is:

read...
read...
read... the forums...

Ask your questions here in the newbie forum, you will get answers....

And find out with what you are comfortable in doing...

That's the best advise I can give you...

[Head Boy]

Just do it yourself - get a suitable domain name, and put a site together. leave it alone and try something else, and then check the first one. After you've done that a dozen times, you'll start to see what works for you. Leave the old sites up - you've done the work, and the chances are that you'll pick up a few sales.

Read and ask questions, that will speed up your learning.

[Panky]

Originally Posted by Athanx

• 1) Should I buy more domains? Currently I have a partner, I make the galleries, he submits them using chameleon submitter*, and we're starting to realize that we can only successfully do 3 galleries a day on this domain.

Don't attempt to beat the system. Submit the max number of galleries per day you are allowed and be done with it. Anything you come up with, (multiple IPs, multiple domains, multiple accounts, and the likes), will eventually get you caught and blacklisted.

Remember, your TGP submit database is not the same as your MGP submit database. Nice specific databases are not the same as general databases. Use your databases wisely and you can get a number of galleries listed without violating any rules.

Originally Posted by Athanx

• 2) Going off #1, could I just use some random domain I have lying around? The names aren't really porn related, but they're not being used for anything and I'd like to finally get a sale. I've only had about a combined total of 120 clicks on a total of 3 sponsors, with 6 galleries submitted (Three of them last night)

Choose a porn domain or two to use for your submits. On those domains, create a hub page or some sort of ads page to sell your sponsors. Surfers will back track the domain to see what else they can get for free. I'll PM you an example if you want to see.

Originally Posted by Athanx

• *3) Would it be worth it to buy myself a chameleon submitter license? So both my partner and I have one, and we can knock out more galleries per day (Assuming I get more domains)

You are best to use one license at a time. In theory, it is a great idea trying to use it to get multiple galleries out there, but if you guys are sharing IPs, login details, domains, affiliate IDs, and the likes, it won't do you any good. You will eventually get caught. Your best bet is to go solo. Your partner has his/her own domains, license, partner accounts, affiliate IDs, and you have your own. You can help each other build them and share submit tips, but it is best that you do your own thing and your partner does their own thing.

Originally Posted by Athanx

• 4) Is chameleon confirmer worth it? I was thinking about just writing something on my own, but I've noticed there are at least 6 distinct types of confirmation emails, two of which would still require some kind of human interaction, and I just hate reinventing the wheel when the wheel is cheap :P

Confirm your galleries by hand. There is sometimes important information given in those confirmation emails, (passwords), and you'll miss them if you use a script to confirm. Some sites change the confirmation process as well to catch auto-confirmers. It really doesn't take much effort to manually confirm them. After a few times, you'll build a good routine and will whip through them in no time.

Originally Posted by Athanx

• 5) Should I bother with partner accounts yet? Seeing as I haven't made a sale, I wouldn't think it'd be worth the risk... However I don't know how many sales/clicks I'd get out of it.

This is through trial and error. A good account to get that is well worth the money is a Shemp account. There are some other good ones like a Krawl account, (Pichunter) and Tommy's but you'll have to check to see if they are still available. You'll need to consider the niche(s) you are promoting and find accounts and sites that match them.

Remember that with the majority of paid submit passes, you are not paying to have your galleries listed. You are only paying to have them reviewed. The exception is a Shemp account. He will list all your galleries as long as they follow his rules.

Just because you buy a submit account or use Chameleon, does not mean you'll get galleries listed and generate sales. There are a lot of factors involved. The gallery, content, sales pitch, sponsor, and sites you are listed on, for example.

[friporr]

I'd say take things as they come along. Get a couple of galleries listed, find out what gives you the msot return for your time and before you spend money on partner accounts or paid listings make sure you know your galleries convert.
Seems to me like you started out just a couple of days ago?

If I were you, I'd stick with submitting a couple of galleries a day and probably one or two freesites. If your fingers are itching for more work once these things are done each day, spend time making blogs or static pages. Maybe try your hands at tgp's or fake tgp's.
But I think to begin with having a couple of galleries and a freesite submit each day is a stable start. Will give you experience from how to handle the traffic, identify good/bad traffic and see what works and what doesn't. Just realize galleries in themselves aren't long term traffic generators. So make sure you get sites made that will generate their own traffic too.

[Meat]

plenty of mentors here on the pond anthax im sure u will find everyone quiote helpful as evidenced by this thread

do it yourself and ask questions when your stuck

[Rofl]

I will add to the "dont try to beat the system" thing.

If you want to submit more galleries, get more partner accounts, and consider hand submitting if not supported by your tools