Brazil oil field discovery may end middle east oil dependency

[Greg B]

Bloomberg.com: Latin America

Bravo Brazil!

[seeandsee]

Brazil may be pumping ``several million'' barrels of crude daily by 2020, vaulting the nation into the ranks of the world's seven biggest producers, Zeihan said in a telephone interview.

They can now play less football and do more oil pumping

[Georgie]

At $115 a barrel, US companies could economially develop its vast shale oil fields. Shale oil is not used industrially in the US, yet we have the largest reserves in the world. However, to get it, the American public will need to allow a pretty ugly mining operation, and they have to develop a transportation system nearer to water to reclaim the deposits.

The US is ever-so-able to completely separate from Middle East oil dependency, and has been able to for years. What we have right now is the result of an energy policy promulgated by the son of a Texas oilman. It's business as usual for the power-keepers.

[joneze]

Originally Posted by Georgie

The US is ever-so-able to completely separate from Middle East oil dependency, and has been able to for years. What we have right now is the result of an energy policy promulgated by the son of a Texas oilman. It's business as usual for the power-keepers.

You have that right.

[micho]

NIce good for them

[docputer]

As crime and corruption are rampant in Brazil, I wonder if this oil field discovery will turn into another Nigeria, where oil executives and workers are kidnapped and held ransom all the time. Brazil is the only place I have ever been robbed in a cab between the airport and hotel. If I had to guess, I would say the taxi driver was in on it, but the guy on the bike took all our laptops and wallets.

[Hentaikid]

Venezuela is a member of OPEC, now Brazil will join the club, there will be no change at all to the world situation, only Brazil will get richer, and the rich there are already rich as fuck. Maybe with Lula in charge some of it will trickle down to the people

[refundovich]

Originally Posted by docputer

As crime and corruption are rampant in Brazil, I wonder if this oil field discovery will turn into another Nigeria, where oil executives and workers are kidnapped and held ransom all the time. Brazil is the only place I have ever been robbed in a cab between the airport and hotel. If I had to guess, I would say the taxi driver was in on it, but the guy on the bike took all our laptops and wallets.

Brazil is the only place where I have seen police set up roadblocks and demand money from every one. They are the biggest gang in a country full of gangs.
Anyone with any amount of money drives around in an armoured car.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Georgie

At $115 a barrel, US companies could economially develop its vast shale oil fields. Shale oil is not used industrially in the US, yet we have the largest reserves in the world. However, to get it, the American public will need to allow a pretty ugly mining operation, and they have to develop a transportation system nearer to water to reclaim the deposits.

The US is ever-so-able to completely separate from Middle East oil dependency, and has been able to for years. What we have right now is the result of an energy policy promulgated by the son of a Texas oilman. It's business as usual for the power-keepers.

Yep, and alot of that corruption is with the American people who support that assclown. The rise in oil is due to more people investing in it like a futures commodity. Every retirement pension fund and union has invested in petroleum and they've threatened their legislators with anything short of death if they fuck that scam up.

Evil has won on this world. Get used to it. No matter what new discovery or wonderous invention, we will default to using it to fuck each other over.

[mikesinner]

I'd like to see more done with solar power.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

I'd like to see more done with solar power.

Dude, if people started saving money with solar power these oil junkie fucks would figure out some way to block out the Sun.

There's no such thing as an energy shortage. There's energy everywhere. We only have a 'brain' shortage and a 'courage' shortage.

[Georgie]

Those of us old enough to warrant annual prostate exams will remember the oil embargoes of the 70s, and how that changed the dynamics of cars in this country. While I hate the idea of spending $4/gallon, the upside - if there is one - is that we'll see a MUCH faster adoption of highly fuel efficient cars. Within 3-4 years a non-hybrid car rolling off the showroom will be a rarity. And within 5-7 years, all-electric cars with small gas "charger" engines will reach at least the 15% mark of all cars sold, even higher for fleet cars.

While shale oil, ethanol, and other alternative fuels are interesting, they really don't solve the long-term problems (they add to them, like increased corn prices), and besides, fuels like shale oil are "dirty" both to process and to mine. Not ideal by any means.

In the end the Saudis will enjoy $300 a barrel oil, but only the countries without foresight will have to pay it. Let's hope we're not one of them.

Sadly, along the way, the oil companies WILL get their way with Alaska. It's only a matter of time before the country submits to that blackmail, because they won't have a choice. They'll still get $120/barrel for it, though. Imagine: drilling rights AND $>100 barrel oil out of that pipeline. Life is good for the oil industry.

[ThePornIdentity]

According to documents recently I read at the International Energy Forum, we'll be sucking crude oil till 2030 quite easily, there's no real change to pull in more from the oil sands etc. and from a geopolitical firm I heard from the other day, sounds like the US would swing to Brazil for oil as long as oil reserves are proven.

As for kidnappings, thats a regular thing in South America, also muggings from either taxi cab drivers (only get in the ones that are "official" and well known) and bikes that snatch bags is quite popular. So I guess that wouldn't be THAT new to the region lol

But yeah, it has shown that where ever there is oil, there's issues. Saudi Arabia keep things contained as they are a very controled closed state however Brazil is like Nigeria in the fact that there's lots of open land and little ways to police it all leading to lack on control and with an already corrupt police force... well. Yeah.

I enjoy Brazil but the little beach towns.

Oh, quick one on the Saudi's. They wont be enjoying much $300 oil for long as they becoming a net importer in the future so they'll soon start using more of their own oil as they develop and grow more. It's like the UK, they were a net exporter 4-7 years ago but now they a net importer. Things change fast.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by ThePornIdentity

According to documents recently I read at the International Energy Forum, we'll be sucking crude oil till 2030 quite easily, there's no real change to pull in more from the oil sands etc. and from a geopolitical firm I heard from the other day, sounds like the US would swing to Brazil for oil as long as oil reserves are proven.

As for kidnappings, thats a regular thing in South America, also muggings from either taxi cab drivers (only get in the ones that are "official" and well known) and bikes that snatch bags is quite popular. So I guess that wouldn't be THAT new to the region lol

But yeah, it has shown that where ever there is oil, there's issues. Saudi Arabia keep things contained as they are a very controled closed state however Brazil is like Nigeria in the fact that there's lots of open land and little ways to police it all leading to lack on control and with an already corrupt police force... well. Yeah.

I enjoy Brazil but the little beach towns.

Oh, quick one on the Saudi's. They wont be enjoying much $300 oil for long as they becoming a net importer in the future so they'll soon start using more of their own oil as they develop and grow more. It's like the UK, they were a net exporter 4-7 years ago but now they a net importer. Things change fast.

All well said!!!

Brazil is full of evil much like Mexico. I'm living in Los Angeles and the influx of illegal immigrants with it's hideous criminal subculture is turning LA into Mexico City with all it's crime and shit. Not only that but weapons dealers here in the U.S. are fueling the crime in Mexico. We've got the means and technologies to stop using oil for fuel but we won't implement them because half the population of the U.S. is making money from oil.

The Saudis will continue to languish in oil revenues as long as scientists and inventors keep getting murdered and bought off or jailed. I know because I worked for a company funding new energy solutions and damn near every scientist and inventor we worked with got bumped off or bought off. Luckily we and other companies and journalists and a few brave legislators got the files as to whom was behind this shit. It would fucking trip you out. Been going on for almost 100 years.

It never ceases to amaze me how shit low some people will go to undermine their fellow man. The petroleum thing is a scam and has been. When we get the Republicans out of office long enough you'll see the end of the petroleum cartels once and for all and they know it which is why they'll murder and cheat and manipulate elections.

Now you know how Bush got elected twice.

[ThePornIdentity]

Bingo... Bloomberg.com: Latin America

US Navy reopening operations in latin waters... the start of their move.

[Alej]

thats very old news.

[flip]

The CIA will play a "part" in the sudden increase in public disorder resulting in a collapse of the Government...

Then the US will invade to protect the country's oil fields...with a vague mumuring about stability of South America - Al Queda cells yada yada fill in the blanks to suit...

The UN and the rest of the world will sabre rattle and the UK will send a zillion troops...

We'll fight them on the beaches we'll fight them in the slums...and we'll certainly fight them at the oil fields...

I'm surprised Chavez in Venezula hasn't had a tragic "accident" yet - they've tried everything else...

Of course all this is pure hokum - I mean a country like the US of A would never do any of that now would it...

[Auf Mauf]

That would be good for their economy because now most of the population its poor and unemployment

[Dupont]

Wow they hit a gold mine

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by flip

The CIA will play a "part" in the sudden increase in public disorder resulting in a collapse of the Government...

Then the US will invade to protect the country's oil fields...with a vague mumuring about stability of South America - Al Queda cells yada yada fill in the blanks to suit...

The UN and the rest of the world will sabre rattle and the UK will send a zillion troops...

We'll fight them on the beaches we'll fight them in the slums...and we'll certainly fight them at the oil fields...

I'm surprised Chavez in Venezula hasn't had a tragic "accident" yet - they've tried everything else...

Of course all this is pure hokum - I mean a country like the US of A would never do any of that now would it...

Dude, there's a former pornmeister who was a top exec in the oil field research end. He told me years ago that they had found oil all over the place and that what you just said would happen. Then he predicted there would be so many oil fields discovered that the powers that be wouldn't be able to control it all and some guy would release new energy technologies.

He then mentioned Nikola Tesla and that was that.