Is porn really that dangerous?

[lyno]

A article on a german newssite (the german gov criticise china over
censorship) triggered a discussion about censorship in germany and
a prominent opinion was that censorship is necessary because of porn.

I wonder about the public opinion (not laws) on porn in your country.
Is porn seen as a problem, as something dangerous?

( I heard there are public porn vending machine on the streets of Denmark )

[Mihx]

Originally Posted by lyno

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( I heard there are public porn vending machine on the streets of Denmark )

I can't remember actually seeing one of those things since the '90s, but I guess there might still be a few around .
But otherwise this country is certainly not known for strict censorship in any areas. Yet.

[lyno]

Originally Posted by Mihx

I can't remember actually seeing one of those things since the '90s, but I guess there might still be a few around .
But otherwise this country is certainly not known for strict censorship in any areas. Yet.

So the average Dane is rather relaxed about porn?

Interesting point is that i heard that denmark has a very low rate of sex
crimes compared to countries that are much more restrictive.

BTW: News from the 51th state ( england )
'Extreme porn' law could criminalise millions | The Register

[freechess]

religion is many times more dangerous on its best day then porn is on

its worse day.

[markz08]

its not that dangerous acutally, its fun as long as you can control the porn in your body, then there's no problem

[Head Boy]

Originally Posted by lyno

Interesting point is that i heard that denmark has a very low rate of sex crimes compared to countries that are much more restrictive.

Well you don't have to be the sharpest lawyer on the bench to realise the correlation. Porn is the ultimate safe sex, with no risk of std. I expect it's the wives who start to worry that they might be considered to be inadequate.

[SykkBoy]

Porn isn't the real problem
the real problem is that people who have problems that already exist let porn compound those problems. Porn is a vice and like any other vice, when mixed with existing problems can create bigger problems...

[lyno]

Originally Posted by freechess

religion is many times more dangerous on its best day then porn is on its worse day.

No dissent. Hmm... you are from denver so i think there is no need to ask
about the public opinion on porn in your area

Originally Posted by Head Boy

Well you don't have to be the sharpest lawyer on the bench to realise the correlation. Porn is the ultimate safe sex, with no risk of std. I expect it's the wives who start to worry that they might be considered to be inadequate.

The statistics i know draw a consistent picture: The more a society accepts
sexuality and it's variations as part of life the lower are sexual crimes. I think
the connection between porn and crime is only indirect. Look at the USA:
Porn is widely available but porn (and sexuality itself) is also seen as
something dangerous, immoral and dirty.

On the other hand i found a article some time ago that said that in some
areas (USA) the cases of rape significant dropped after broadband become
widely available.

Originally Posted by SykkBoy

Porn is a vice and like any other vice, when mixed with existing problems can create bigger problems...

Like religion or the bible?

[micho]

I don't think is dangerous, just don't work 24/7 :S

[Mihx]

Originally Posted by lyno

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On the other hand i found a article some time ago that said that in some
areas (USA) the cases of rape significant dropped after broadband become
widely available.

That might not necessarily have anything to do with porn. It could be that the potential rapists have just gotten fat and lazy and can't tear themselves away from World of Warcraft .

[Pandaman]

Originally Posted by Mihx

That might not necessarily have anything to do with porn. It could be that the potential rapists have just gotten fat and lazy and can't tear themselves away from World of Warcraft .

I can buy off on that...

Randy

[lyno]

Originally Posted by Mihx

That might not necessarily have anything to do with porn. It could be that the potential rapists have just gotten fat and lazy and can't tear themselves away from World of Warcraft .

Holy shit.... and those moronic german politicians want to ban computer
games. Germany will be shattered by a immense wave of crimes

[SCORE-CASH]

Rape and agreasion, can be found in Hollywood movies. It's actually worst in how CSI and other Police crime dramas depict rape, torture, and agreasive tendecies.

If we wanted to prevent an individual from commiting a rape, we should start by preventing all these TV and Hollywood movies from being shown to individuals who have problems with society.

Porn in general has consenting adults, even the mock agreasive scenes depicted in the industry are not as agreasive as what I've seen portrayed on CSI.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by lyno

BTW: News from the 51th state ( england )
'Extreme porn' law could criminalise millions | The Register

It's a times like these that you appreciate how important The House of Lords is.

I hope we will eventually get a reasonable version of this bill being made law. The guiding principle for getting it right with porn and the sexual acts it portrays should be: if you wouldn't prosecute consenting adults for engaging in the sexual acts portrayed (whatever they are) then you shouldn't prosecute people for watching those sexual acts in porn.

If sex with animals is illegal, then porn showing that is illegal. If sex with people under a certain age is illegal, then porn showing that is illegal. If rape is illegal ...etc. It's a no-brainer really.

[LezGeri]

Originally Posted by SCORE-CASH

Rape and agreasion, can be found in Hollywood movies. It's actually worst in how CSI and other Police crime dramas depict rape, torture, and agreasive tendecies.

If we wanted to prevent an individual from commiting a rape, we should start by preventing all these TV and Hollywood movies from being shown to individuals who have problems with society.

Porn in general has consenting adults, even the mock agreasive scenes depicted in the industry are not as agreasive as what I've seen portrayed on CSI.

Ah but you see CSI is drama. It's not intended to sexually arouse it's audience.

And nobody actually gets raped or murdered in the production of CSI.

And that's the rub really. If a piece of porn shows an actual crime being committed then prosecute it's makers. Otherwise just leave porn the hell alone.

[lyno]

Originally Posted by LezGeri

If sex with animals is illegal, then porn showing that is illegal. If sex with people under a certain age is illegal, then porn showing that is illegal. If rape is illegal ...etc. It's a no-brainer really.

In germany sex with animals is legal (except the act violates the animal
protection act) but any media, including fictional storys or drawings, are
illegal.

Ah but you see CSI is drama. It's not intended to sexually arouse it's
audience. And nobody actually gets raped or murdered in the production of
CSI.

Rape in a hollywood movie: of course fake.
Rape in a porn movie: Hell, that must be real

Years ago a friend showed me some "snuff" clips he found on the web. He
was pretty disturbed, wondering if those are real. I have do admit that they
wasn't very disturbing for me, you can see much worse in mainstream
movies. The clips showed scantly dressed women (bare breasts) getting
shot. I never have seen someone getting shot in real life but it definitive
looked fake to me. That it has been the same models getting shot again and
again was a other other important hint. But hey, it was on the net and not in
cinema so it must be real.

It's not intended to sexually arouse... that's the point, but i wonder why that
is such a problem. Most of us like "action" movies, especially the violent typ.
Kill Bill might be a good example, also for the fact that sex and crime is even
better then just crime

[Mihx]

Originally Posted by lyno

...
Years ago a friend showed me some "snuff" clips he found on the web. He
was pretty disturbed, wondering if those are real. I have do admit that they
wasn't very disturbing for me, you can see much worse in mainstream
movies. The clips showed scantly dressed women (bare breasts) getting
shot. I never have seen someone getting shot in real life but it definitive
looked fake to me. That it has been the same models getting shot again and
again was a other other important hint. But hey, it was on the net and not in
cinema so it must be real...

Snuff films are an urban legend.
Not that it couldn't happen of course - if someone was stupid enough to provide video evidence of a murder he commited - but apparantly not a single actual snuff film has ever been found in the few decades that urban legend has existed, though, not surprisingly I guess, quite a few fakes.

[rick181au]

Originally Posted by freechess

religion is many times more dangerous on its best day then porn is on

its worse day.

I am with you all the way.

[lyno]

Originally Posted by Mihx

Snuff films are an urban legend.
Not that it couldn't happen of course - if someone was stupid enough to provide video evidence of a murder he commited - but apparantly not a single actual snuff film has ever been found in the few decades that urban legend has existed, though, not surprisingly I guess, quite a few fakes.

At least one snuff movie is rather prominent: The dead of Saddam Hussein.
You might argue that the primary goal of that clip was not sexual arousal
but i'm sure it gave some ppl a hardon. Ups... maybe i'm getting a lil cynic.

[Gasta]