epassporte

[Lipshtich Lady]

I have not received this email - but am wondering please what exactly they are asking for?

I dont have an issue with sending a copy of photo ID with address for verification. As I use the account for payments from sponsors and I use the visa card for online purchases.

Are they asking for information beyond that?

[pam]

Originally Posted by Lipshtich Lady

I have not received this email - but am wondering please what exactly they are asking for?

I dont have an issue with sending a copy of photo ID with address for verification. As I use the account for payments from sponsors and I use the visa card for online purchases.

Are they asking for information beyond that?

front and back of credit card (storing the CVV code is illegal according to Visa/Mastercard regulations, so I don't even see how they can ask for this)

copy of credit card statement

voided check

copy of bank statement

copy of utility bill

government-issued ID

[Lipshtich Lady]

interesting Pam

other credit cards or the credit card they issue and mail (if you choose to do that)? any other credit cards I have are not relevant to them.

voided check - for account they are wiring to? many ask for this.

bank statements - none of their business?

Utility bills are not relevant and not their business - though in some places that is a way addresses are verified.

this is interesting - though most anyone they want to check out they can get info through FICO scoring organizations and with limited exceptions Fair Isaac covers most countries. Sounds more like a random audit for some investigation...

[Varzi Network]

Sorry to say but as of the 15th of this month there will be no more Epass payments with Varzi. It will probably cost me a great deal of business but there is just to much risk doing biz this route at this time. All they have to do is snap their fingers and thousands of dollars will be lost in an instant. I just cannot deal with an unregulated and such an unprofessional payment service that changes its rules just about every month now. Now i can see how it felt for many of those guys overseas having to jump through so many

I know some who receive equal or greater amounts each month and they have not received this notice. Some big fish in adult have stated that they were not asked for any information. Then you have some who have have said they do in fact gamble with Epass funds and yet they have not been asked for info. It really makes no sense they have my fucking checking account number that clearly matches the info on my account. Paypal never even asked me for so much personal information and im afraid im not willing or able to meet these demands.

This was posted on that other board which backs my feeling on the gambling issues.

"Lets look at this objectively.

1) Epassporte stops processing all payments for gambling sites.
2) Epassporte asks all members to prove to Epassporte who they are.
3) Epassporte is especially concerned with where you live when asking for the documents.

Now lets look at Neteller.

They did something similar and the IRS went through their documents looking for card holders that had account balances of $10,000 or more and did not acknowledge this fact on their tax returns. Moving money of $10K or more into or outside the US must be declared. Your tax form has a check box to do so. Says something like, In 2007 did you have $10,000 or more in a foreign bank account. Which Epassporte is.

Next they went after the larger gambling winners. So anyone with $100K or more in winnings received an IRS notice informing them that they needed to prove they lost an amount equal to or over the amount they won. If they could not do so, they would have to pay taxes and penalties on the winnings.

Rumors have spread that the number came down to as low as $30,000 over the last two years as the IRS is working to collect all of the money US tax payers kept.

So if you didn't gamble or didn't remove large amounts of cash you might not have a problem. If you did have $10K in the account and failed to report it, you can expect an audit. If you won large amounts, expect a bill."

[frederix]

no, wait, regarding to the documents they are requesting ....

for me hey asked me:

- print, fill, scan and upload a form with some single questions.
- copy of my document id.
- phone bill or something to probe my address.

there is nothing with the bank, other credit cards or stuff like that.

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by frederix

there is nothing with the bank, other credit cards or stuff like that.

You have no bank tied to your account in which you can add or withdraw funds.

I wonder why Micheal is posting on GFY and we have to go there to get any answers?

Fuck GFY and Fuck EPASSPORTE!

[BadWolf]

I'm glad I don't have to deal with this crap.

[frederix]

oh, i see varzi, thanks.

in your post:

"So if you didn't gamble or didn't remove large amounts of cash you might not have a problem. If you did have $10K in the account and failed to report it, you can expect an audit. If you won large amounts, expect a bill."

i don't gamble and i never had 10k together on my account but i the whole history i moved more than 10k.
should i expect a bill ?

thx.

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by frederix

i don't gamble and i never had 10k together on my account but i the whole history i moved more than 10k.
should i expect a bill ?

Judging by your English my guess would be you are not in the US of A. Which means the IRS and most of the banking laws in this country have no jurisdiction over your money. They may contact the tax man in your country but you would have to ask them. If you get an audit im sure someone will come out to go over your earnings with you and they will determine what you need to pay if anything.

[frederix]

thank you varzi.

[frederix]

i have another question maybe someone here can help me, i have printed this form and i have to fill a field "Ticket #", anyone know what is that ?

thx.

[kushmoney]

Originally Posted by frederix

"Asking for photocopies of the front and backs of our cards is absurd! You'd better hope I don't send you a photocopy of my cock! "

i loved that

I dare you...


I am happy I don't use them.

[pam]

Originally Posted by Lipshtich Lady

interesting Pam

other credit cards or the credit card they issue and mail (if you choose to do that)? any other credit cards I have are not relevant to them.

voided check - for account they are wiring to? many ask for this.

bank statements - none of their business?

Utility bills are not relevant and not their business - though in some places that is a way addresses are verified.

The credit card on file. I have 2 -- both Mastercards -- and neither is an active number. Both clearly state they are inactive, yet they want a copy of the credit cards I don't have any longer and they don't even take Mastercard any more! And my Mastercard is for business so is in my business name and address.

Voided check for the account tied to my bank account. I transfer my ePass funds to this account and it's a business account, so my name and address can not be verified by providing this.

Bank statement tied to the voided check account. Again, business name plus I'd black out everything on there as it's no one's business who I pay each month, or who pays me.

Utility bill to verify who you are and the address. Most of my bills have my PO Box address on them OR my mailing address, which isn't my home address.

I'm with Varzi on this, why are some who get $5k a week not being asked for this yet one of my accounts only gets about $1k a month ... I'm told it's $5k over time, not at one time. And I'm told it's a Visa regulation. ePassporte offers Virtual Visa cards. If I were going to defraud anyone in another name, I'd have been doing it for the past 4-5 years I've had the card.

Also, sending in a copy of the credit card with the CVV code on the back, and ePass storing this document ... well, the card associations make it illegal to store a CVV code and I do believe it's also a Federal law. They are not a credit card processor but I don't believe it would be legal for them to store this, but I am not a lawyer.

It sounds like their bank is clamping down and requiring them to adhere to the Patriot Act, but they are not a USA company, right?

[stfuvt]

never got anything like this from epassporte

[Lipshtich Lady]

I just read more info on another board....

the credit card info they are asking for is info you already entered when you opened your account and if you no longer have the card you just have to enter another credit card - they are just asking for proof you really have the card you entered.

I am not seeing the big panic here

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by Lipshtich Lady

they are just asking for proof you really have the card you entered.

Funny that Paypal and all these other services can easily verify my information and do not require all this documentation.

Give me one good reason why we should trust a company who is obviously in some deep shit with their merchant bank and possibly the feds?

[Lipshtich Lady]

Originally Posted by Varzi Network

Funny that Paypal and all these other services can easily verify my information and do not require all this documentation.

Give me one good reason why we should trust a company who is obviously in some deep shit with their merchant bank and possibly the feds?

if they asked you to verify the credit card, you had already given them the information.

I dont know how their rules differ from paypal for verification. I rarely use paypal as the one time I had a chargeback they were jerks. On Epass.. I do know this... I had to call them about an account issue and they answered right away... I emailed a few other times and they responded right away. I set up transfer to wire funds received to my bank, then sent a few cents and asked me to verify it and it works very nicely. I like the service and personally I am not into getting all upset about something that to me seems reasonable.

Paypal doesnt accept adult...

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by Lipshtich Lady

then sent a few cents and asked me to verify it and it works very nicely.

Paypal doesnt accept adult...

This is the same way Paypal does verification of the bank account and they send an authorization to your CC. Its simple no hassle and no need to provide 5 forms to prove what has already been proven when the money is being withdrawn into my damn account. If i wanted to withdraw it to my girlfriends mothers friends boyfriends father it should be none of their concern anyway. If you recall Epassporte was originally sold as a transparent P2P service and now their game has changed.

Sorry im not willing to deal with the hassle but i was more then happy to give my Social Security number to the new Payment service in my Sig. I actually felt safe and confident that my information will be kept secure. That cannot be said for the Epassporte who have been to busy sucking up to GFY and blowing smoke up everyones asses to come here and give answers.

[pam]

Originally Posted by Lipshtich Lady

if they asked you to verify the credit card, you had already given them the information.

I dont know how their rules differ from paypal for verification. I rarely use paypal as the one time I had a chargeback they were jerks. On Epass.. I do know this... I had to call them about an account issue and they answered right away... I emailed a few other times and they responded right away. I set up transfer to wire funds received to my bank, then sent a few cents and asked me to verify it and it works very nicely. I like the service and personally I am not into getting all upset about something that to me seems reasonable.

Paypal doesnt accept adult...

Yes, it does. Their terms changed over the past few months.

Asking me to verify the card 5 years after I used it is pretty dumb, when I used it one time, and it's not a valid card anyway. Why should I put my information on their site again -- another credit card -- when I have no plans to use it?

Why are they asking customers who have been with them for 5-6 years for ID, yet new people can open an account with NOTHING? All these new people from Viet Nam who are opening accounts and stealing sponsor money aren't long-time webmasters.

I had a few sponsors talk to me on the phone to verify who I was when they wanted to be sure all ePass customers were who they said they were. They wanted ID and I told them all if after several years I hadn't defrauded them, the odds are I'd not start now, but if they wanted to call me to verify who I was, feel free -- and they did.

[Lipshtich Lady]

Originally Posted by pam

It sounds like their bank is clamping down and requiring them to adhere to the Patriot Act, but they are not a USA company, right?

Actually there are financial laws in the EU that are similar and in alignment with many aspects of the US Patriot act the concept is similar though as they strive to stop funds transfers into terrorist organizations. These have slowly been implemented. There were many recent changes in the EU regarding funds wired to and from non-EU countries (in my other job we wire funds in/out of the EU)