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Old 05-01-2008, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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$6.5tn US gov't debt

i just read in a newspaper article that while military spending will exceed $1tn this year, the US government has accumulated a total debt of US$6.5tn with other countries. that is not counting the tens of trillions$ of debt accumulated by US companies and individuals.

the article concluded that the US is totally bankrupt. that foreign countries like china have stopped lending to the US gov't and are demanding paybacks. that the next president will have to deal with all of that, fucking tough job. and that no matter what he/she does, the US economy is headed for a total implosion in the coming months/years.

it's hard to imagine these figures at all, but it sure doesn't sound good for our mostly dollar-based biz. thoughts?
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Speaking of the next leader, I was thinking to myself... anyone think it, er, kind of "strange" that it is almost certain the US will be having EITHER its first black president OR its first female president?
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Get rid of 9 tenths of your lawyers, and get them working on farms and in factories.

Stop trying to rule the world, and try to rule your own country

Make legal extortion illegal.

Encourage business to stay in the US, and make it attractive for the rest of the world to use your services.

Nationalise Visa, and work to reduce the amount of credit buying of non-essentials.
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Speaking of the next leader, I was thinking to myself... anyone think it, er, kind of "strange" that it is almost certain the US will be having EITHER its first black president OR its first female president?
The black guy is part of a plot to get the US back into the British commonwealth.
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If the in-fighting in the Democratic party continues we could also have the old white guy.
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Speaking of the next leader, I was thinking to myself... anyone think it, er, kind of "strange" that it is almost certain the US will be having EITHER its first black president OR its first female president?
why do you think that is almost certain? don't count out the republicans yet.

no matter who it is, looks like he/she will have a tough road ahead. the deficit is only one of several huge problems that person will have to solve.

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Get rid of 9 tenths of your lawyers, and get them working on farms and in factories.

Stop trying to rule the world, and try to rule your own country

Make legal extortion illegal.

Encourage business to stay in the US, and make it attractive for the rest of the world to use your services.

Nationalise Visa, and work to reduce the amount of credit buying of non-essentials.
i guess the "you" addresses all americans, i'm not one of them

all of your points are strong, but i doubt any of them will happen anytime soon.
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The debt has been higher than that before.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yeah, it's crazy...pretty depressing
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sadly, that is far from the full scope of the Federal Government's debt. At least in the US, most businesses must use the accrual method of accounting- one that takes into account future debt obligations among other non-cash factors. The US Govt uses the cash based method of accounting. If the US used the accrual method, as any large business is required to, the debt would be roughly TEN TIMES that. Yikes!

Also, this is just the debt of the Federal Government, and doesn't include the massive amounts owed and obliged by state, county and local govenments. Add those for a truly staggering sum, and you will see just how fucked we are.
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Sigh... Just so mind numbing
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The one thing that amazes me with America is that they spend all that money on war yet you have to pay to go to the doctors and for an education.

Just remarkable.
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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OR its first female president?
Just on sec i was thinking you wrote: "OR its first shemale president"
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