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Old 05-02-2008, 03:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think this needs to be addressed as some of us will no longer be doing business with Epassporte.

Any chance of bank wires for payment over $XXX or some other solution?
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What's the ePassporte story then?
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What's the ePassporte story then?
The story is many of us refuse to play this game and give them access to information they have no legal right to have. I do not gamble nor use Epassporte to Launder money offshore and therefore decline their request to provide any further information then what has been given. They can verify the information on file with my bank and there is no way im sending them anything more. I can tell you it was far less hassle to get merchant processing from Paycom then it has become to use Epassporte.
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I got a merchant account and didn't have to provide such information!
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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are you saying that epass allow gambling? That would be awesome for me, but my visa gets rejected everywhere and epassporte said that its because they do not allow gambling. Its that funny stuff: moneybookers allow gambling and no adult and epass allow adult and not gambling
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i can't epassporte because they nickel and dime you to death

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Old 05-02-2008, 07:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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have we had a response as to who exactly is being targetted with these requests for large amounts of ID ?
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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are you saying that epass allow gambling? That would be awesome for me, but my visa gets rejected everywhere and epassporte said that its because they do not allow gambling. Its that funny stuff: moneybookers allow gambling and no adult and epass allow adult and not gambling
you used to be able to use epass to play poker - 'used to' being the key words there
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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are you saying that epass allow gambling? That would be awesome for me, but my visa gets rejected everywhere and epassporte said that its because they do not allow gambling. Its that funny stuff: moneybookers allow gambling and no adult and epass allow adult and not gambling
Someone on another forum has stated that he wishes "more" Poker sites accepted Epass. So what it sounds like is they take it as a P2P payment directly which saves processing and get around the Visa bit. I also know that some are now using prepaid phone cards since prepaid debit cards no longer work. The whole thing is just really stupid and in the end we all suffer because the few who will do everything to get around the laws.
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The gambling is just a USA only thing right? since the goverment doesn't want americans to gamble offshore ..

Don't really understand the big deal peopel have with sending papers to epass .. It's the kind of information you eventually have to supply everywhere if you want your cash.

I seen a list somehwere of what they ask .. I can say thats maybe over the top.

but a copy of a cc .. identity and some utility bill with your address .. is pretty normal.
Just to blank out the good parts ..
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but a copy of a cc .. identity and some utility bill with your address .. is pretty normal.
Just to blank out the good parts ..
They have no right to have this information and i have every right to tell them to shove it up their ass.

What makes it even more bullshit is some who have admitted using Epass for gambling seem to have not been asked to submit this information.
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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With the amount of affiliate fraud going through epassporte accounts I am glad they are asking for more documents from people.

We will look at what other cash out options we can use.

We can always do a bank transfer for $xxx amounts, but we will not eat the £25 ($50) fee!
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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With the amount of affiliate fraud going through epassporte accounts I am glad they are asking for more documents from people.

We will look at what other cash out options we can use.

We can always do a bank transfer for $xxx amounts, but we will not eat the £25 ($50) fee!
They don't do this with NEW accounts, darlin', only current ones! The new morons are the ones who are defrauding you with multiple accounts in various names.

Old-timers like me who have had an account for 5 years should be pretty trustworthy by now, right?!

I know some sponsors pay me via ACH and there is no fee to me or them, so you may want to look into that. Payoneer is also something a few sponsors are using, and one of mine uses Verified Charge.

As for what they ask for? I don't have all the documentation they require. Or, since I run a business, my bank accounts associated with ePassporte are in my business name, so a bank statement or voided check will not be in my name (I transfer funds from ePass to that bank account).
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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but we will not eat the £25 ($50) fee!
That would be understandable.

I have no problem with verifying my identity (Copy of my License) but the point here Aga is that some have already done this and now they want more. In fact i have made numerous withdrawals to a bank account in the same name which should be more then sufficient. Nothing on my bank statement can actually prove that account was not opened fraudently as it was in fact setup over the phone. Nor can anything on my electric bill or a photocopy of my credit card since all of these services required nothing more then a signature to be faxed over. Not one of these have ever seen me in person or even has a copy of my license which is why identity theft prevention has to be taken very seriously.

I have more then one bank account so providing an account just to dump funds is no big deal. Providing them information that might allow someone to steal my identity with relative ease is a much different. With something as simple as a bank statement or an electric bill in the US you can do a whole lot of damage. Even worse is the fact that so many Epassporte users post here and we cannot even get a word because they have been to busy posting on GFY. So when they are ready to accept a copy of my license as PROOF of identity then and only then will Epassporte be accepted once again in my neck of the woods.
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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As for what they ask for? I don't have all the documentation they require. Or, since I run a business, my bank accounts associated with ePassporte are in my business name, so a bank statement or voided check will not be in my name (I transfer funds from ePass to that bank account).
I have two checking accounts at two different banks and have never written a check in my life. They write checks for me if need be and online banking takes care of the bills. So no im not paying $15 to get a box of checks that will need to be safely discarded afterwards.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I am waiting for Chris or Shaliza or Michael to get back to me .... but if they are not willing to budge on the requirements, unfortunately I too will be severing my ties to Epassporte ..

Yes it is with regrets, because I do move a few thousand a month thru epass, but I will not give all the documents to them that they want ...

FUCK ME!! How is it that I can apply for a mortgage worth a few hundred THOUSAND dollars, and not have to provide as much documentation to them??

Photocopies of all my various financial statements sounds much more like an audit or federal intervention than for "security purposes" ....

And like it has been pointed out several times but nobody is picking up on it ... the documents they are requiring are themselves ILLEGAL for them to ask for ... namely the CVV2 number ... By law, a vendor, merchant, or elsewise is not allowed to store records of CVV2 numbers .... THIS IS COMPLETELY DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF THE CVV2 NUMBER!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! THIS IS NOT ABOUT a bit of tighter fraud protection ... this is something MUCH BIGGER ... YOUR PRIVACY GUARANTEED TO YOU IS BEING VOILATED!!
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What are you guys all talking about? I have an epass account they didnt ask me to send them anything.


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Old 05-02-2008, 09:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I have two checking accounts at two different banks and have never written a check in my life. They write checks for me if need be and online banking takes care of the bills. So no im not paying $15 to get a box of checks that will need to be safely discarded afterwards.
Varzi you can just ask the teller to just print you 1 check with your account numbers. They can do this for you instantly. probably even free.


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Old 05-02-2008, 10:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What are you guys all talking about? I have an epass account they didnt ask me to send them anything.


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Apparently Sabby - everybody who has moved more than $5000 thru epass is being contacted ..

Sounds almost like a online gaming witch hunt by the US feds if you ask me ...

Be afraid ..

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Old 05-02-2008, 10:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Apparently Sabby everybody who has moved more than $5000 thru epass is being contacted ..

Sounds almost like a online gaming witch hunt by the US feds if you ask me ...

Be afraid ..
I've moved way more than 5K. I use them for my adultwork payments. I wasnt contacted though it it doesnt say anything in my account.


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