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Old 05-07-2008, 05:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Donkey, take a look at LB's post above - thats exactly what happened to one of his new sites and he had to submit in a re-inclusion request for Google to include him in the index. Happened to one of my sites as well when I was too agressive bulding backlinks to it.

And yes, official movie sites do get tons of backlinks but they get those backlinks over a period of time Even if there's a spike over a couple of days, its not like they got a ton of backlinks in one day and then it was over.
It is very likely that they get tons of links specially around their premiere and not over the time. The amount of links that they receive later is insignificant comparing to that.
Who knows why your sites were banned or were there banned in the first place.
Anyway, my main point is that getting in trouble for more than 3 backlinks in a week is ridiculous.
... and a donkey is your father. If you don't have a better arguments don't start insulting, just give up.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:30 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Hey DiscoNinja, didn't mean to offend you by "Donkey" - its the name of another Ponder I had you confused with. Hope you're not too offended lol

and yes, I agree that 3 backlinks a week (or a day, for that matter), is never going to get you a G penalty
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:50 PM   #43 (permalink)
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same thing happened to my blog about a month ago and it still hasn't fully recovered. It didn't go down to 50 but it dropped a lot and took a while to build back up.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:57 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Hey DiscoNinja, didn't mean to offend you by "Donkey" - its the name of another Ponder I had you confused with. Hope you're not too offended lol

and yes, I agree that 3 backlinks a week (or a day, for that matter), is never going to get you a G penalty
Then I am also very very sorry about my last post.
To get back to the subject. My opinion is that getting penalty with to many backlinks at once is very hard to achieve (if possible in the first place). You would have to submit to many many crappy directories and they would all (or majority) have to approve your link in a time frame of a day or two. Still, if this scenario is possible it means that it is possible for any webmaster to raise a penalty for any new site which could become his competitor. I don't think that engineers at Google are that stupid.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:35 PM   #45 (permalink)
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It is very likely that they get tons of links specially around their premiere and not over the time. The amount of links that they receive later is insignificant comparing to that.
Who knows why your sites were banned or were there banned in the first place.
Anyway, my main point is that getting in trouble for more than 3 backlinks in a week is ridiculous.
... and a donkey is your father. If you don't have a better arguments don't start insulting, just give up.
I agree .. 3 backlinks a week is nowhere near close to the level that will give you issues.

You add 10,000 in 2 days and you might encounter an issue though
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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i had a blog that was getting 800/day from a one keyword, then bam down to 50/day, changed some posts made a whole lot of 100% handwritten after a few mths.. back on top... now back to 50 after a month... its really a crapshoot
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:10 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I thought there were bad neighborhood results for domains that were registered on estdomains since many spammers and black hats come from that registrar...and the site is hosted on esthosting. That could be it. I can likely be wrong, but that seems to be something I remember
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:19 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Just a couple articles that link estdomains to spamming and other hijinks

I Almost Signed Up an EstDomains Reseller Account | HostingFu

http://www.littleblackdog.com/topic39177-30.html

If I recall in the Netpond domain forum there is a rule that forbids selling estdomains registered names for that reason.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:33 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I agree .. 3 backlinks a week is nowhere near close to the level that will give you issues.

You add 10,000 in 2 days and you might encounter an issue though
Could be true but how can you get 10000 links in 2 days?
Even if somebody can gather 10000 links in 2 days I guess it is possible for Google to distinguish 10000 spam links (for example from directories) from 10000 natural and quality links (from all kind of sites).

Here is a part of an interview with Matt Cutts which talks a little bit about this subject:
Q: "How concerned are you over the tactic of aggressive link buying to competitors' sites in order to take down competitors? How long, do you think, it will be until competitors start taking each others' sites out in Google with aggressive link buying?"
A: "I do not think a smart competitor will even try that second one because they would be more likely to help. The thing is, we are very aware that site 'A' could buy links to site 'B', and then spam-report site 'B' and try to frame site 'B'. So we try very hard, in all of our spam techniques, to make it so that one site can not sabotage another site."
Interview with Google's Matt Cutts at Pubcon
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