TGP2 - the Anti-TGP Tutorial...

[seksi]

per request of the Shemp, here it is:

For those of you who have never heard of TGP2, but are familiar with TGP gallery submitting, TGP2 is a good way not to loose money while cutting your teeth on this business. That said, it is also no fast track to riches. Instead you are slowly building stable traffic that gets feed by search engines, your own sites, and community infrastructure like the "Rotate-Her". More and more smart TGP2 webmasters are combining a blogging/RSS strategy that makes use of TGP2 galleries that is being called TGP2Evolution, but that is very beta, and I want to talk about what I have learned from 2-3 years of TGP2 image gallery building.

TGP2 image galleries contain exactly five thumbnailed images that must link to larger images, however those images may be embedded in a new html page. Often I just link to the images themselves, but the strategy of linking to the image in a new html document is really a good one as far as SE traffic is concerned.

The search engines seem to have a profile for TGP galleries, and they don't like them as much as 5 pic galleries. Either that or the math on the number of links going out on a 10 - 15 pic page doesn't equate to value in the eyes of Google. It is probably a mix of both

Also, I think TGP2 galleries that are very simple, with clean markup and well organized presentation of information are more important than showy design, so this eleviates the need for gallery templates. Instead, focusing on metadata makes sense - you spend less time cropping and resizing images, I suggest you use it filling in your img alt="" fields.

If you get started with this today, prepare to be underwhelmed with the initial traffic, but keep building. If you need to have some traffic to keep you happy, post links to your TGP2 galleries in surfer forums, on your blogs, etc. Over time, the traffic adds up, and over the life of your gallery the majority of it will come from TGP2 sites like Dirty-Pillows.com and other sites that pull your gallery out of the TGP2 gallery pool and search engines. Don't forget to submit your galleries directly to the search engine submit pages, and use other Search engine friendly tools, like Google SiteMaps.

Here is an example of a TGP2 gallery with traffic like clockwork from google:
Sunny Leone - Indian Sex Goddess

[Hotrocket]

WOW TGP2 a blast from the past!

3-4 years ago I used to do alot of TGP2 galleries..It's a concept that does work, even if the non SE traffic sources were somewhat limited.
Lots of naysayers about it since day one but, I always had good luck with it.

My issue was I just got sick of building galleries period..TGP or TGP2
and now most of the major TGP's have made it such a pain in the ass to get listed, its not worth my time to jump thru the hoops and BS they have in place to chase that marginal traffic.

I used the TGP2 Gallery pool and thought it was a great idea..and I wish the TGP community would have embraced it. I know all the reasons why they didn't..thats not the point though is it?

I dont want to get off track talking about TGP..I'm glad there is still interest in TGP2 and this thread does make me think about doing a little submitting to the gallery pool again...I'm sure I have hundreds of TGP2 galleries sitting in a folder somewhere...swap out a few pics and change some of the dead sponsors....might be worth the effort huh?...lol

good post!

[Adult Site Traffic]

I honestly thought TGP2 was a thing from 2003. I had no idea anyone was doing it any more.

I tried it for a while, it would be great if all TGPs were TGP2 galleries, sales would go up across the board, but I thought it never really caught on.

I don't even do image galleries any more, just 4 videos and pay for partner accounts.

Maybe I'll give it one more shot.

A-S-T

[Adult Site Traffic]

Interesting.

http://www.tgp2.com

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[liveevil]

I've been quietly wondering if any other ponders submitted TGP2 galleries. I agree that it was and is a great idea but just failed to achive its full potential. Maybe that you've brought some attention to TGP2 here there will be some renewed interest?

[cool1]

I used to tgp2 at the beginning of tgp2, I think I was one of the first tgp's to go to all tgp2 galleries at the very beginning.
I used to build tgp2 galleries, but those are all gone now.
Also was a mod on the old tgp2board at one time doing gallery reviews.
Stopped doing it not to long after the split.

[Hotrocket]

This started me thinking ..I used to have a TGP2 resource site back in 2003..lol forgot about that, tgp2works.com I let the domain expire..but it looks like someone has it now..its redirecting to webair now but the wayback machine has some pages in there, ugh..I hate looking back on old designs...lol

[Head Boy]

I tried tgp2 a while ago, but didn't have much luck with it. I got a few cheaters in the gallery pool, so I gave up on that as well.

I invented a different structure that I called Fours Up which looked promising, but I could only use it on my sites, and it was taking too long to build a cluster. Now that you've reminded me, I might start using it again though.

[PHP_girl]

I must say that I like this concept more than TGP galleries. It looks like a mini free site and with right traffic it could be profitable.

How many places are out there where you can submit those galleries?

[Quagmire]

The concept is very sound. By limiting the surfer to 5 pics, they have enough to get turned on, but not enough to get off. The question is how do you limit the cheating submitters when you allow for index & 5 html pages for images. Who wants to search 6 pages on each gallery for cheaters?

Maybe we should all consider grouping together for a TGP2 hybrid project? I would definately be on board for something like that.

Everything has to start somewhere. Someone started TGP, someone started Linklist. Its just a matter of time before someone starts something else. Why not us?

[Dutch Harry]

Sorry but i dont think this will work with placers like the Hun and TGP's like that, cus id the surfer see the low amount of content he/she is gone of to them.

[smutranger]

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

Sorry but i dont think this will work with placers like the Hun and TGP's like that, cus id the surfer see the low amount of content he/she is gone of to them.

The hun has had a few tgp2 galleries before. I don't know if they slipped in past the review process or what.

[seeandsee]

I saw few TGP2 gall's at hun, from 2004 <=
It was pictures in new page with ads

[seksi]

In any case, it is a good way to start out because you don't need a lot of bandwidth, and it gives you much more opportunity to work with sales text (which is the reason Sleazybear says he steers newbies to regular TGP), and twice the opportunity (with pics on HTML) to end up in Google or Yahoo image indexes.

When I started out, I grossly over estimated the hosting package I would need, and hosting then was pretty expensive. Had I known what I really needed, instead of following expectations and recommendations designed for regular TGP (and I was doing some of that then) I could have become profitable sooner.

If you are just running something like Dirty-Pillows.com (A TGP2 site listing galleries) and a few hundred TGP2 galleries, you are probably not going to need more than 2 - 5 gigs of throughput per month, and it will take a few months or a year to have that amount of bandwidth used regularly.

You should still have a responsive server and optimize your pages in any sensible way that doesn't reduce the quality for the end user (e.g. leaner html by well planned use of CSS styles in the HEAD vs. inline styles or repetitive, deprecated tags like &lt;FONT&gt

[seksi]

Originally Posted by Head Boy

I tried tgp2 a while ago, but didn't have much luck with it. I got a few cheaters in the gallery pool, so I gave up on that as well.

I invented a different structure that I called Fours Up which looked promising, but I could only use it on my sites, and it was taking too long to build a cluster. Now that you've reminded me, I might start using it again though.

It is perfectly valid to interlink TGP2 galleries, and using phrases like "Next Gallery" and "Previous Gallery" are fine. I think it might be better in terms of SEO to have that anchor text describe the next gallery you are linking to, e.g. "Next Gallery: Busty nudes on the beach"

The usefulness of following along with TGP2, vs. inventing your own strategy from scratch is there are a few established TGP2 sites that will list your gallery, plus the "Rotate-Her", etc.

I am encouraging more people to build TGP2 galleries, especially soft core and non-nude, because I would like to find more galleries in the pool that I could list, so I have some diversity for my surfers.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Dutch Harry

Sorry but i dont think this will work with placers like the Hun and TGP's like that, cus id the surfer see the low amount of content he/she is gone of to them.

You're basing this on the assumption that all surfers know about the hun and other large TGPs. You know its there, I know its there, but does your mom? What about your neighbour?

Like anything else, if you get traffic to it, it will build over time. Then word of mouth kicks in, etc.

Assuming it will fail doesn't mean it will. If two years ago someone told you you could sell pixels for a buck a piece on a web site and make a million dollars would you think they were crazy, or would you try it out?

[PornFactory]

Probably Dutch Harry is right ... most surfers will go to Hun or Worldsex and enjoy in more porn per gallery ...
interesting is that you and Head Boy started similar thread is same day ... and in this few day of big attack to TGPs (what I support) ...
I must admit that I was never interested in TGP2s but its very similar to Head Boy's concept which is a little better than TGP2 galleries...

In my opinion, I would go with Head Boy's type of sites and then we can talk about starting something new ... as LB (I think) said in one post: TGP2 is dead game .... so we probably need something new.
Probably TGPs will also be dead soon ... how things are going in last few months that wouldn't suprise me...

[Dutch Harry]

TGP2 is a dead game, the site of HB would be better cuss you have more pages with salestext/keywords in it.

Still i think its for Joe verry easy to find sites where he can get more free porn, and yes my mom knows about the HUN

[ThePornIdentity]

I like the idea of Head Boys, I'm sure we'd make more sales but as a topic that was brought up ages ago... we need a large amount of webmasters to change to the new "concept" in order for something to happen or visitors will just disappear to the other sites with more content.

The other way is that if it's a rarely seen/used picture or video being used on your site and it's REALLY good, it could work.At the end of the day it's an advert, if it bites, it bites.

[jimmer]

Originally Posted by Adult Site Traffic

Interesting.

http://www.tgp2.com

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tgp2.com was owned by a now bankrupt sponsor. I don't like posting links to other boards but you can always find the tgp2 community from a link on the tgp2gallerypool.com, as well as the rotateher and up to date rules.