Cam sites that are 100% free and dont take a cut?

[goddess0169]

I am thinking about camming again if only for a month or so
I used to be at www.camgirlshide.com but they closed down, I am now on camgirlsfind but its not busy at all there, is there any sites that dont take a cut of what you make with really good traffic?
id be willing to pay a small amount but am not up for the sites that offer free chat etc , thats bs

[anne]

Originally Posted by goddess0169

I am thinking about camming again if only for a month or so
I used to be at www.camgirlshide.com but they closed down, I am now on camgirlsfind but its not busy at all there, is there any sites that dont take a cut of what you make with really good traffic?
id be willing to pay a small amount but am not up for the sites that offer free chat etc , thats bs

Its going to be very tough to find a camsite that doesn't charge a percentage. The fees you see on most cam sites are because such a high percentage goes to webmasters and then to their merchant fees. If you want a site with good traffic you will want one that has a lot of webmasters promoting it and the only way to do that is give them (webmasters) a nice cut.

If you want something that doesn't charge a percentage my suggestion would be to start a free site and promote yourself with an up sell to your webcam. You can always use yahoo cam and epass (I think) or ccbill to bill for your cam hours. However you will still need to give ccbill 13 or 14% for their merchant fees. It wont get you a lot of traffic until you learn how to market but it will keep your percentages down.

If you want the bigger numbers of visitors though you will have to go with a cam company that pays out 30 to 35% (thats the average payout).

Jane

[Sabby]

I myself got really annoyed and tired of the free cam/chat model. I am multitasking several sites where I take bookings and keep 70% gross. A couple of them I also have to pay to "feature" though and/or eat any chargebacks myself. And some I still have to do the free chat thing on yahoo/msn but I'm usually quick to spot and block the scammers and time wasters. Always save your message history if they message you more than once, ask you the same damn thing again, want a preview, dont buy a show etc... block them... its just not worth it.

This is a hilarious but so very true summary of all the bullshit you have to deal with when being an independant camgirl: http://www.madisonstone.com/wwwanker.htm


Sabby

[anne]

Originally Posted by Sabby

I myself got really annoyed and tired of the free cam/chat model. I am multitasking several sites where I take bookings and keep 70% gross. A couple of them I also have to pay to "feature" though and/or eat any chargebacks myself. And some I still have to do the free chat thing on yahoo/msn but I'm usually quick to spot and block the scammers and time wasters. Always save your message history if they message you more than once, ask you the same damn thing again, want a preview, dont buy a show etc... block them... its just not worth it.

This is a hilarious but so very true summary of all the bullshit you have to deal with when being an independant camgirl: http://www.madisonstone.com/wwwanker.htm


Sabby

Actually if you give a look at www.madisonstone.com her main site that is exactly what I was talking about if you want to promote yourself and keep the most money. She has a nicely designed site and up sells right to her yahoo cam. If you can drive enough traffic to it you can start adding other girls who want to do the same thing

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by goddess0169

I am thinking about camming again if only for a month or so
I used to be at www.camgirlshide.com but they closed down, I am now on camgirlsfind but its not busy at all there, is there any sites that dont take a cut of what you make with really good traffic?
id be willing to pay a small amount but am not up for the sites that offer free chat etc , thats bs

I think you are much better with a cam site that takes a cut because you really can't argue with all the traffic. I don't think there is any other way you can get such high quality traffic unless you are willing to spend a shitload of money. Why not just let the cam sponsor do that and let them take a cut. Have you thought about concentrating on doing your own advertising?

[hollyhoby]

Are Chargebacks a huge problem for webcam girls? Also If you are taking paypal as a payment I know they only protect the seller if they sold "tangible goods" that could be a big problem if your using paypal.

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by hollyhoby

Are Chargebacks a huge problem for webcam girls? Also If you are taking paypal as a payment I know they only protect the seller if they sold "tangible goods" that could be a big problem if your using paypal.

It is in paypals TOS they do not process adult sites, adult products, or camgirl transactions. They wont protect you. What they will do is lock your account.

Yes there are alot of guys trying to use stolen credit cards. Always check the IP and address of the person.

For example you got a guy buys a show that can barely speak english, yet according to his creditcard his name is John Smith and he's from Ohio. Or the credit card is in a womans name. Or he gets declined the first time then uses a different person's card to try again. Also these guys will usually not buy the cheapest show. If they are going to go for it they'll usually try at least $100...

Use common sense if he smells like a scammer he probably is.


Sabby

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by hollyhoby

Are Chargebacks a huge problem for webcam girls? Also If you are taking paypal as a payment I know they only protect the seller if they sold "tangible goods" that could be a big problem if your using paypal.

It's best to go with one of the web cam sites like AWE, streamray, ect. you just can't get around it unless you have someone watching your ass. a lot of these girls that are talking about running their own cams are running them on their own sponsor program or under another company. Going it alone may seem more profitable but it really isn't.

How long have you been a cam girl?
What sites have you worked for?

[mikesinner]

Oh yes and chargebacks can be a pain in the ass but they come with the territory. I run a blog for a friend and its only purpose is to send her traffic. She once had over 2k in chargebacks during 1 month and it was shitty for both of us, but when you make over 10k a month its not that bad and is usually less than %10

[erots]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

Oh yes and chargebacks can be a pain in the ass but they come with the territory. I run a blog for a friend and its only purpose is to send her traffic. She once had over 2k in chargebacks during 1 month and it was shitty for both of us, but when you make over 10k a month its not that bad and is usually less than %10

2k from 10k is more than 10%. You have to make more than 20k to make it less than 10%. Month wise anyway.

[minniesoporno]

Hav you tired http://www.livecamsunited.com/

[VV]

I like NiteFlirt you take 70% minus the connect fees. You have to do PHONE WITH CAM not just cam so that might be a down side, but what you can do is tell them, you have to be on the phone but you will set the phone down and continue on with the show. Never been a problem with me.

[mikesinner]

Originally Posted by erots

2k from 10k is more than 10%. You have to make more than 20k to make it less than 10%. Month wise anyway.

Of course I know that. She had a big chargeback that month but on average it is nit that high

[goddess0169]

Originally Posted by minniesoporno

Hav you tired http://www.livecamsunited.com/

i am checking it out now thanks,
i did do niteflirt in the past,
might start doing it again

[goddess0169]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

It's best to go with one of the web cam sites like AWE, streamray, ect. you just can't get around it unless you have someone watching your ass. a lot of these girls that are talking about running their own cams are running them on their own sponsor program or under another company. Going it alone may seem more profitable but it really isn't.

How long have you been a cam girl?
What sites have you worked for?

been doing cam for 6 years on and off part time.
I started off with niteflirt then did camgirlshide.com
and had my own site traded links etc

[hollyhoby]

Originally Posted by mikesinner

It's best to go with one of the web cam sites like AWE, streamray, ect. you just can't get around it unless you have someone watching your ass. a lot of these girls that are talking about running their own cams are running them on their own sponsor program or under another company. Going it alone may seem more profitable but it really isn't.

How long have you been a cam girl?
What sites have you worked for?

Yep, sounds like a better deal to go with a company. I am a really "newbie" I'm just starting out, gonna go with Tricams thats the one that Anne is helping me get started with. Excited to start!

[minniesoporno]

Originally Posted by hollyhoby

Yep, sounds like a better deal to go with a company. I am a really "newbie" I'm just starting out, gonna go with Tricams thats the one that Anne is helping me get started with. Excited to start!

tricams is ok site I worked on there for a while then they went out of busienss but they been back u p for a while

I am on cams, streamate and imlive for abotu 5 years.

[richardtov]

try streamate.com

[anne]

Originally Posted by minniesoporno

tricams is ok site I worked on there for a while then they went out of busienss but they been back u p for a while

I am on cams, streamate and imlive for abotu 5 years.

Hmmm might want to check your facts. We have NEVER been out of business. We have been operating since 2001 with out a single missed payment.