Scientific (lol ) or Free Flowing..?

[flip]

Reading through the forum (again)...

Seems a lot of emphasis is being played on HOW you attract G and Y and whomsover else...

Questions are asked - points are raised and advice abounds...

I know shit about inbound/outbound links/ seo or whatever the particular fashionable thing is called...

I have a few (lol) handwritten blogs - most own hosted ...

ALL treated exactly the same way - as in writing/content etc etc...

The big se's either ignore one/cherish one or just kinda go ummm here's another blog with juicy keywords stick it on page 54 - or summat...

MY point as a weekly flip rant..?

Stop fucking trying to blog - and BLOG...

Yeah it's a so called biz - but hey bloggin' was (originally) meant to be fun...

You guys have made it a trial and tribulation - lol - me I still have fun writing complete shit (that does make me chuckle) and dudes/dudettes actually bite and buy lol...

Take a bit of pride in maybe just ONE blog - and be a blogger - not a fucking splogger (anyone can do that) - peace

As in write like little angels - trade with whomsover you wanna trade with and fucking enjoy blogging

That is all rant over..

(ps now I go back to my sick bed bed full of allogrythms - spell checkers hehe - and people making blogging tooo serious for old hands like me )

PPS - sploggers and those who adore rss feed ignore this - I'm talking to bloggers

Now bite me hehe...

And I am seriously a poorly boy

[Chimera]

Flip you are adorable but don't take this all that seriously.
I have both types of blogs and enjoy both equally.
Vanity blogs which are all about entertaining and perhaps a sale or three tossed in as a sideline. I link, or don't just as I please.
And I own and author sales blogs as well, because this is a business and blogs DO make money, and both types come with their pleasures. The largest pleasure I find in either style, is I do what I please.
If I want to chase g and y I do. If I don't, I don't.
I can do whatever makes me happy.
Every blogger finds his middle ground I think, or quits blogging.

Oops I nearly forgot to bite you!

[flip]

The last time I was called adorable was...ummm let me think...err ahem NEVER...

Hey I just like to stir the blogging pot and get these wanna be bloggers who are ahem sploggers thinking...arguing and er justifying...(meh... as in they have a zillion sales blah blah blah lol)...

Guess that makes me adorably naughty - plus I got my divorce papers today so I'm sad/pissed off/ pissed/ still poorly and misunderstood - oh Lord please don't let me be (bwahahahahaa) ...

I say again - enjoy blogging stop getting hung up over it - yeah it's a biz - but enjoy and break the fucking rules every now and then - that's what blogs are for

Ps - the bite thing - umm if you're a woman consider me bitten

[glowlite]

I think there should be a forum just for sploggers. Splogs are totally different than blogs other than usually using the same CMS tool.

I think the download link for WP should be randomly hidden somewhere in the most recent 100 posts on the WordPress support forum.

Maybe sponsors who pretend to know something about XML/RSS/ATOM should have their own forum too. That would be close to 98% at a guess.

[Blinky]

I had a personal blog long before I started in adult and I know exactly what you mean.

I can't see 'webmasters' being as interested in a real blog because the aim is not to make money with those.

[erots]

Did god say blog was meant to be fun? Dunno, I can't see why splogging can't be fun, I have lot of fun with it, I don't need to write text and appeal to my visitors taste of dirty humor or whatever.

Basically work is work. You work to get money, not to feel good. I would suggest you to seperate mental masturbation(emotions) from your work because it might get in your way when you want to make living from porn. Who cares what other say.

If you look at this board then you will notice that typically whiners are the people who are having hard time to get by and people who are very successful are usually highly critizised. I can't explain it in any other way then just pure jealousy and laziness.

Writing original posts can be very time consuming and highly not rewarding, making splogs can also be very time consuming but it could be much more rewarding. If something doesn't work for you then stop and regroup. Or enjoy yourself at burger king(I doubt you actually enjoy it, lol).

If something works for you, put in more. If you keep failing then stop and regroup. There isn't room for anything else, specially for emotions.. get a girlfriend or dog for that and keep it seperated from your work

[TSMona]

Originally Posted by erots

Did god say blog was meant to be fun? Dunno, I can't see why splogging can't be fun, I have lot of fun with it, I don't need to write text and appeal to my visitors taste of dirty humor or whatever.

Basically work is work. You work to get money, not to feel good. I would suggest you to seperate mental masturbation(emotions) from your work because it might get in your way when you want to make living from porn. Who cares what other say.

If you look at this board then you will notice that typically whiners are the people who are having hard time to get by and people who are very successful are usually highly critizised. I can't explain it in any other way then just pure jealousy and laziness.

Writing original posts can be very time consuming and highly not rewarding, making splogs can also be very time consuming but it could be much more rewarding. If something doesn't work for you then stop and regroup. Or enjoy yourself at burger king(I doubt you actually enjoy it, lol).

If something works for you, put in more. If you keep failing then stop and regroup. There isn't room for anything else, specially for emotions.. get a girlfriend or dog for that and keep it seperated from your work

Well said The idea is to make money. If something works, I keep doing it and if something doesn't, I stop doing it

[Contra]

With all the "how to splog" threads I've been reading, this is a little different. I'm on the verge of buying blog organizer and launching a couple hundred feeder blogs. Now you’re making me feel bad.

[erots]

Originally Posted by Contra

With all the "how to splog" threads I've been reading, this is a little different. I'm on the verge of buying blog organizer and launching a couple hundred feeder blogs. Now you’re making me feel bad.

Don't feel bad. Here I'll show you..

There was time when people built websites ground up from HTML, there are people who still do, even though there are tons of templates they could reuse... or at least use parts of them and tons of different HTML editors. There are still people who don't use these things because it makes them feel good inside when they are l77t.

You see, the problem is that people aren't willing to learn new stuff. they learn something and get perhaps fairly good at it.. then they get used to their habits and fail to link logically because it is much easier to trust your habits.

Flip saying that blogging should be fun and personal(I presume?) is as good as me saying that most of the bloggers have no idea about everything and they are really surfers who have a web log that is as easy to update as writing a word document. Most of the time they fail to make money and turn into stuff like uploading full length movies to rapidshare.. like that whatever his name was who had some gothic babes blog.

Well generally they totally fail, but it isn't enough to hurt their moral because they are zealots who think that world is pink and full of flowers and everything will be good eventually. Even if they have waited life to become good for 5 years. At this point though.. things get even worse because when you have waited for something for 5 years... there is no going back. Even if you know the facts you just refuse to belive them because if you would change now then it would mean that you have wasted 5 years... and you honestly can't accept that.. can you?

Take it like this - people who promote the idea of having just few blogs with long posts usually fail because they belive that their site makes money off their text alone, they haven't even considered becoming a text writer although they say they are doing quality posts... (which could mean that there is some kind a issue with how they really think of themself and their text. A self-esteem issue, it means that their constant propaganda about so called "quality blogs," isn't a propaganda at all, but cry for attention.. so that everyone could come and say how great their texts are or how good person they are.)

They usually don't do even basic SEO. They do perhaps linkbuilding one day with other people like that. So you mostly get like lot of these "quality" people together who have no idea about linkbuilding and basic SEO. There is NO way they could handle something like buying traffic or ads. Sometimes they get lucky though and get some top ranking for some keyword and cry to death when they loose it because they got used to it and it was their main income source.

And yet... they are being spoonfeed and cuddled and everything. They fail to listen and complain how world generally sucks and look for people like they are. They don't do anything else besides text writing not because it isn't old-school but because they don't want to learn and try to make everything look oh so complicated. And yet if they would spend 10% of the time they have spent on their quality stuff on things that they have been told that work... over and over again. They might probably make 800% more.

Do you feel better now Contra? You know this is really all just total bullshit I wrote here, just like flip did that had nothing to do with biz. It may even hurt your biz awfully. But so might flip's ideology.

Conclusion: Who cares what people think, belive or say. They have their own reasons for saying things they say and it may never be as straightforward as it seems. But if you want to know what works then you test it out yourself and make your own conclusions. Never let other people decide that for you, I mean.. haven't you ever considered that they might be stupid or awfully lazy and would like everyone to be?

When I came here I got a lot of extremely bad advice too, then at some point I started to realize who know what they are talking about and who don't. What I fail to understand is that why do people who don't know anything are desperate to give advice to everyone. But perhaps cry for attention is the reason indeed.

I hate this pink thread

[nottslad]

That's a nice post erots.

One thing for sure the internet doesn't stand still for long and we all need to adapt as trends and new ideas evolve if we want to maintain, or better still, grow our online presence and income. If that compromises our beliefs and ideals then we have to make the choice as to whether we do what we do for the fun of it, or not.

It's basic evolution - adapt or die.

[Contra]

First, I didn’t realize there was such a passionate debate about this. I would never let someone else’s harsh opinions effect what I’m doing. If I cared about what most people think I wouldn’t work in adult. I would do mainstream only.

I came to adult because the money is easier to make. You can be sloppy, with sites that are ugly as dogshit and still people will come back for your updates because it’s free porn. As long as you say come back tomorrow for another gallery or video you will have traffic.

You can write out posts yourself or use rss feeds. Most surfers don’t know the difference. I understand that.

I also understand the principle of diminishing returns and over saturation. These are the reasons I have stayed away from splogs until now. My thinking was don’t be part of the problem. But that is a stupid way to think. You’re right,

Spammy bullshit blogs might be short term, but they are the perfect tool to build upon in my opinion. I guess I shouldn’t apologize for that, but I honestly hate spam and spam blogs. Doesn’t mean I’m not going to use them. I fall on both sides of the fence.

I have a little cognitive dissidence with the issue.

[flip]

If something works for you, put in more. If you keep failing then stop and regroup. There isn't room for anything else, specially for emotions.. get a girlfriend or dog for that and keep it seperated from your work...

The last thing I want is a girlfriend and the divorce meant I lost my dog...I certainly haven't failed...and I have certainly popped a few more blogs into the mix...

I would suggest you to seperate mental masturbation(emotions) from your work because it might get in your way when you want to make living from porn...

Thanks for the tip on emotions - mine are proudly on my sleeve...

You see, the problem is that people aren't willing to learn new stuff. they learn something and get perhaps fairly good at it.. then they get used to their habits and fail to link logically because it is much easier to trust your habits

Link logically..? That's my point on the scientific level - jeez - my mature blog sends daily hits to my teen blog and vice versa - surfers are impulse buyers and certainly don't follow any logic as far as I can see...very unscientific if anything

Flip saying that blogging should be fun and personal(I presume?) is as good as me saying that most of the bloggers have no idea about everything and they are really surfers who have a web log that is as easy to update as writing a word document. Most of the time they fail to make money and turn into stuff like uploading full length movies to rapidshare.. like that whatever his name was who had some gothic babes blog.

My real point about fun - is I have noticed a trend towards making the whole blog thing have some kind of strict rules - man I hate rules - my point and I stress it again is whatever your blog fuck the rules - go with the flow...a blog is your personal webspace whether it be for selling porn or just slapping up pretty pics with a few ads...there really should be no rules in this blogging game - go with the flow...not with the allogorythmns (spell checker mucho needed ) - as I clearly stated - this is about blogs not splogs...

Well generally they totally fail, but it isn't enough to hurt their moral because they are zealots who think that world is pink and full of flowers and everything will be good eventually. Even if they have waited life to become good for 5 years. At this point though.. things get even worse because when you have waited for something for 5 years... there is no going back. Even if you know the facts you just refuse to belive them because if you would change now then it would mean that you have wasted 5 years... and you honestly can't accept that.. can you?

My morals ain't hurt mate lol - however assuming I'm a zealot is a tad below the belt

Life has got shit in the 5 years (almost) I have been blogging - however I still enjoy the making of a new blog - relish my stab at 200 to 250 words to lure the surfer into a purchase - and strangely my best selling blog (as I often say) is a pink (lol) babelog with a basic 5 to 10 word description...and one of my best ever selling galleries was/is of a gorgeous nude women in a field of flowers

Now that blog - old and established - has been met with abject merriment mirth and derisery comments here and on other boards - not enough text - pics too big yada yada blah blah...rules - fucking rules - who's rules btw...? As I said and will say a BLOG is your personal webspace and if it works is fun and sells and above all you enjoy it - rinse and repeat OFTEN...

As for having wasted five years...? Naw - where else can you make a decent living from something you enjoy and have fun doing - some turns of phrase/blog post titles and the contents of pm's and emails I/we have to write in this biz leave me giggling for days - hey I am slightly unhinged

Take it like this - people who promote the idea of having just few blogs with long posts usually fail because they belive that their site makes money off their text alone, they haven't even considered becoming a text writer although they say they are doing quality posts... (which could mean that there is some kind a issue with how they really think of themself and their text. A self-esteem issue, it means that their constant propaganda about so called "quality blogs," isn't a propaganda at all, but cry for attention.. so that everyone could come and say how great their texts are or how good person they are.)

Jeez man again you go for the jugular...where in this post or anywhere have I banged on about long posts being the be all and end all..? I've often suggested long winded turgid posts if anything send the porno surfer into a coma

I write in different styles for different blogs - short snappy cheeky and conscise on babe and porn style blogs and slightly longer and with a more ahem lol inteliigent style on erotic/arty types...the latter seems to attract the most sign-ups as I really enjoy that particular field of a biz and the words ahem flow (please see the latter part of this turgid post hehe)...

The last few years has indeed smashed my self esteem - a couple of unfinished novels are lying right now on my hard drive...however I certainly don't need to come to this tiny corner of the intraweb to try to build it back up - I'm past that...

On the otherhand we all like to be told we are a good person - dunno if a porn forum is the place to genuinely take that to heart - but hey every little helps

Look if producing a zillion splogs is your way and you all obviously make a zillion quid from it great!!!

I have never said don't do it as you appear to be suggesting - try just once to craft a blog - handwrite it - link teen to mature - porn to art - it's called er no rule blogging TM and it seems to kinda give you a delicious naughty feeling inside

You know a few years ago us adult bloggers literally had no-where to link except for each other - no directories no forums just the contact button on a babelog you found whilst surfing....so I guess we had to create our own traffic our own little groups - sadly the explosion of blogs has led to many established adult bloggers battoning down the hatches from the hoardes of splogs banging on the door for link trades...many of my friends are now charging for hardlinks and slapping up a ton of RULES - ummm kinda sounds like TGP's to me and we know where that road goes...

Hey I've never really took this blogging malarky seriously - first couple of years I had a great job and this was our holiday fund...as many know the last two years has led to dropped domains - lost blogs - and long abscences from the online community...

Yeah times are changing and yup I'm a staid stuck in my old blogger ways

Finally (hehe) and as I've been considering and discussing for quite some time now - text writing for blogs as my next step in this biz - I reg'd adultblogwriter.com this weekend - hey in for a penny in for a pound I reckon...

Keepon' splogging people I'm off out wearing my pink tinted glasses to offer flowers and free hugs to strangers (actually off to the docs - like I said I think I'm poorly everyone go aaaah)

[erots]

Hah.. how sentimental. You say you don't take it seriously and yet you have nostalgic feelings about blogging. Also you selectively ignore some of the things I said to defend your stance. Yeah I can really feel how you don't take it all seriously.

Link logically..? That's my point on the scientific level - jeez - my mature blog sends daily hits to my teen blog and vice versa - surfers are impulse buyers and certainly don't follow any logic as far as I can see...very unscientific if anything

First it was a typo, you see I didn't take time to proofread my text and make all the quotes in italic.. and generally waste my time on writing this crap because I totally didn't take it seriously. I just wrote it because you are trying to make people, who maybe want to make money and not be a sob like you, feel bad for splogging or whatever they may decide to do. I wanted to show them that you are just a drama queen wanting lot of attention.

Now about thinking logically(link logically)... there isn't really much science when it comes to thinking logically... and perhaps I should explain it a little because you totally teared out of context. You see, when people work on something they eventually discover how much this something is worth... now if they do something else for a while they also find out what this other something is worth.

if you have to decide between the two(if you really have to) then you obviously pick one that earns you more obviously... that is called logics.. and it has nothing to do with surfers. Your problem seems to be that you are too attached to your habits and you don't want to do any work. Please don't ask other people to do the same because you are giving them bad advice this way.

You know a few years ago us adult bloggers literally had no-where to link except for each other - no directories no forums just the contact button on a babelog you found whilst surfing....so I guess we had to create our own traffic our own little groups - sadly the explosion of blogs has led to many established adult bloggers battoning down the hatches from the hoardes of splogs banging on the door for link trades...many of my friends are now charging for hardlinks and slapping up a ton of RULES - ummm kinda sounds like TGP's to me and we know where that road goes...

Yes you did have everywhere to link to back then. You just were lazy back then too and failed to learn and take advantage of that time.. exacly like you are doing right now. It seems you were whining then and you are whining now.

sadly the explosion of blogs has led to many established adult bloggers battoning down the hatches from the hoardes of splogs banging on the door for link trades

Well thats their problem, perhaps they are whiners too. What do you expect, that when something simple comes out like a weblog CMS and free weblog hosts that nobody takes advantage of it? Of course there will be rules when they still want to make their life easier. Would you prefer to answer everyone of these sploggers personally? I would like to see you do that. Ever thought that there is a reason for rules? Whats so bad about that?

Where does the road go?

ever heard of term "surfmaster" ?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=surfmaster

[Contra]

I like to write also. I write a novel every November for http://www.nanowrimo.org/. I fail at it every year. I figure when I retire I'll have all this material to use.

My goal is to retire early. Live easy and write novels.

As far as blogs. It's just a format to sell on the internet to me.

[erots]

Originally Posted by Contra

I like to write also. I write a novel every November for http://www.nanowrimo.org/. I fail at it every year. I figure when I retire I'll have all this material to use.

My goal is to retire early. Live easy and write novels.

As far as blogs. It's just a format to sell on the internet to me.

Nice site. I'm more into playwriting but in my mother language

[flip]

Seems like I have rattled a poor writers cage..?

Hey son spout and get get awesome as much as you want...ummm have I upset ya..?

Ooops sorry bro'

[flip]

Holy fuck I justy sawe the fucking drama queen thing...


Dude all that is holyt HPOW FUCKING DAre you - YOU WANNA BE PEIEC E OF NOTJHING SHI9T CUIBNT...

now that's better you sad little man