Backlinking Will you take any backlink

[ManilaMan]

I have heard if the backlink is not from a similar site, in the same niche. or from a site with a decent PR, that it is not really worth much............................

then I know most of us use kill4 linkdump, and I am sure that most of those linkdumps would be considered semi spam sites by the SE, thus not really that valuable, or even perhaps something that would downgrade your site. but most of us use those

Do you all think its worth getting backlinks any way you can, regardless of the source. Example the tool for submitting to soc bookmark sites. Lots of guys said they use this. I have not enough time to submit all my new sites even to 6 or so, soc bookmark sites , if i have to do it one by one.. So I was thinking of getting that tool.

What is your backlinking strategy. Also I found this new tool which nobody so far has commented on much since maybe its new.........Knowboform, but the program sure seems slick, and its free for the next two months, not sure if they will start charging for it. Says it submits to tons of SEs and sites. so to me that might be great for backlinks. What do you all think of this or just backlinking strategys in general.

this topic can be confusing for newbies like me

[mikesinner]

Link dumping isn't that valuable anymore but sometimes a few hits can make a sale.

[edhel2005]

is KnowboForm for adult or mainstream? or both? yeah link dumping for backlinks isn't that valuable unless you build your own database, but you get a few extra hits and you can get spidered faster

[ManilaMan]

not sure if knowboform is adult or mainstream, never thought about that but I am sure that would be required to find that out, i will try to see if i can find out

[Video Rob]

You need to do some serious reading up on SEO and ALOT of testing.

Google doesn't punish you for things that are out of your control. If they did it would be way too easy for someone to remove their competitors from the search engines. So getting backlinks from sites that google doesn't like isn't really an issue. Just be careful with who you're linking to.

Getting a backlink from an unrelated niche still has alot value, it just doesn't have as much value as a same niche backlink.

I haven't had much luck with linkdumps or social bookmarking sites - your link doesn't stay there with linkdumps and with social bookmarking sites your link soon becomes buried and many of them put your link through a script.

As for Knowboform, its just another crappy seo tool. It isn't going to bring you any traffic.

If you want SE traffic then make sure your sites have plenty of content on them and trade hundreds and hundreds of links with other webmasters. Aim for setting up 50+ sites and trading thousands of links.

[mm107]

Perfect =]

I dont know why people are afraid to link dump these days, Rob is right, if it was frowned upon, i would just load up a 20k list, and dump all my competition out of 1s page google...

Backlinks are extremely important....

Originally Posted by Video Rob

You need to do some serious reading up on SEO and ALOT of testing.

Google doesn't punish you for things that are out of your control. If they did it would be way too easy for someone to remove their competitors from the search engines. So getting backlinks from sites that google doesn't like isn't really an issue. Just be careful with who you're linking to.

Getting a backlink from an unrelated niche still has alot value, it just doesn't have as much value as a same niche backlink.

I haven't had much luck with linkdumps or social bookmarking sites - your link doesn't stay there with linkdumps and with social bookmarking sites your link soon becomes buried and many of them put your link through a script.

As for Knowboform, its just another crappy seo tool. It isn't going to bring you any traffic.

If you want SE traffic then make sure your sites have plenty of content on them and trade hundreds and hundreds of links with other webmasters. Aim for setting up 50+ sites and trading thousands of links.

[Dutch Harry]

i take all the backlinks i can get

[ristac]

Does Google really see what your site is about though? Take for example two made up domain names:

bbwporn4u.com and teenpornblog.com - You are going to market one as "Teen Porn Blog" and the other as "BBW Porn".. Linking the two together (this is just for the sake of google) would in my opinion be of no harm and in my opinion google would see the 'Porn' connection and see the sites as relevant to each other.

[micho]

I don't do much linkdump, only soc submitting. If you want to generate more traffic from SE then do link exchanges with other webmasters, also you can type in google search and see if there are lists

[ManilaMan]

i thought one way backlinks are where it is at, and link trades are not that valuable
I signed up with that link trade site, forgot the name, half the guys just dump your link after awhile, I found it more trouble than it was worth, it seems that the way to go is to interlink your own sites. How in the world do you guys trade thousands of links?> that would take up all your time trading links and checking to see if they dumped the link.......or do i not know what I am talking about.

[Video Rob]

Originally Posted by ManilaMan

i thought one way backlinks are where it is at, and link trades are not that valuable
I signed up with that link trade site, forgot the name, half the guys just dump your link after awhile, I found it more trouble than it was worth, it seems that the way to go is to interlink your own sites. How in the world do you guys trade thousands of links?> that would take up all your time trading links and checking to see if they dumped the link.......or do i not know what I am talking about.

The only way you're going to get enough one way backlinks is if you buy them, and that would turn out to be very expensive for you. Doing link trades is your only real option.

There's loads of cheaters out there. I use kaktusans Links Organizer to track all of my trades and it checks to see if the backlinks are still up, if anyone takes your link down you get an email about it. You can also use it to put the links into your page.

I probably spend more time searching for link trades, working out linking strategies and putting links into my site than I actually do building.

[ManilaMan]

i spend all my time making new sites and updating the old ones

would be too afraid to spend too much time on link trades, i know backlinks helps traffic but to spend the majority of your time doing that , well we all march to our own drummers I guess

what about interlinking your own sites

[Venril Sathir]

Too bad, without backlinks no amount of unique text would save you Personally I spend a lot of time hunting backlinks as well and it pays off extremely well so far (over than just building).

Building itself is an easy thing to do, its far more important to get traffic and convert it. Building helps in a sense that it gives you a base for future backlinks though

[ManilaMan]

I appreciate the feedback, backlinks is a mystery to me..........i might start exploring ways to increase mine without spending so much time i affect my other tasks

[ristac]

Its about getting the blend right, all inward one way Google thinks you are buying them, all 2 way and Google knows you are A B trading to manipulate the rankings.

[RageCash-Ben]

Originally Posted by ManilaMan

i thought one way backlinks are where it is at, and link trades are not that valuable
I signed up with that link trade site, forgot the name, half the guys just dump your link after awhile, I found it more trouble than it was worth, it seems that the way to go is to interlink your own sites. How in the world do you guys trade thousands of links?> that would take up all your time trading links and checking to see if they dumped the link.......or do i not know what I am talking about.

I agree link trading is a nightmare that is why I use Links Organiser. which monitors all your link trades and automatically removes or emails you if someone removes a trade. Highly recommend it.

[pondlife]

I've not heard of KnowboForm but I'll check it out...

Backlinks are extremely important as many of you have said already but the search engines are clever and the ranking of such backlinks is very difficult to get right.

What you have to do is make sure that the backlink is related to your content and the keywords you choose are related (anchor text whithin the link itself).

This is something that I've spent a lot of time trying to get right on Add An Image - Online Gallery - Create and Share your own image links - Home

For every post that's submitted the anchor text is used in the meta data and title of the page as well as the backlink to the submittors site.

We also now have free TGP submission which works a little differently to most TGP's - when you post your TGP on our site each image gets a page and a backlink.

The TGP submission page is here: TGP Submission Form

NB: All submissions are checked manually and we will delete anything that we believe is inapropriate. Hotlinking must be enabled on your server for the initial load of the image.

Add An Image - Online Gallery - Create and Share your own image links - Home is currently growing by over 1000 images per day and we have something like 50,000 pages listed in Google (the site has over 113,000 pages at the time of writing this message).

So, come along and post either individual pictures or TGP's whilst its still free

[Profits of Doom]

For both mainstream and adult blogs I have always been able to build up a fair amount of backlinks and traffic by commenting on other blogs. If you go through a blog's older posts you are often able to find comment pages that have decent PR, so you end up with a decent one way backlink...

[ristac]

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

For both mainstream and adult blogs I have always been able to build up a fair amount of backlinks and traffic by commenting on other blogs. If you go through a blog's older posts you are often able to find comment pages that have decent PR, so you end up with a decent one way backlink...

But you don't as blog comments are automatically set with a Nofollow attribute. On top of this you are actually harming your SEO as Google openly admits to penalising those that do such a thing:
Official Google Blog: Preventing comment spam


Most weblog software now marks reader-submitted links this way by default (with no option to disable it without code modification).
Source - Spam in blogs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Wiggles]

while it may not be beneficial for seo or sales its another route for se spiders to hit your site, you want them indexing your site as much as possible