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Old 10-10-2006, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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trade script on blog links - yay or nay?

trade script on blog links - yay or nay?

I know some tgp/listing pages got all their out links as trade in software like LanasPoweeTrade

Question of the day is this recommended for blogs or Should I rather not shit in my surfers faces?
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Old 10-15-2006, 10:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You mean blind links? where the surfer clicks on a picture or text and it leads them to some random blog or tgp or whatever? No. That would be a bad idea. Why not just run tgp software if you are going to do that?
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Old 10-16-2006, 03:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the only reason you would want to use a trade script is if you want to use it as an honest toplist. Try xclicks or arrowtrade. you could use some pics that have pics that look like they would fit with the sites your sending peeps to or make your own graphics. Blogs are more about information for your surfers and you want to give them correct information. Don't try to trick them or you will lose out on return visitors
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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trade script on blog links - yay or nay?

I know some tgp/listing pages got all their out links as trade in software like LanasPoweeTrade

Question of the day is this recommended for blogs or Should I rather not shit in my surfers faces?
Well it depends on the type of blog you have. If you for example have a blog with loads of free content, free movies, free pics and are already trading with all kind of non-blog sites then why not? The surfers you get from the non-blog sites are used to this. If you don't do it someone else will.

But please note: that if you have a normal blog with normal blog traffic then you shouldn't do it, it will only make the blog surfer angry.
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Old 10-19-2006, 04:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You can make 2 places where you add links on your blog:

1) Hard linktrades
2) Toplist

But your blog must big big one to trade traffic.
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Old 10-20-2006, 10:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I am using a trading script for my toplists on my blogs (i can create hardcoded toplists with it), but I do not track outgoing hits with it - no blind links!
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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nay I don't have trade script on my blog.
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Old 10-20-2006, 02:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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As long as there is no skim, I see nothing wrong with using a trade script. In fact, I use a trade script on one site and a top list on another. Although, for the moment, the top list is being used to benifit my link exchange partners that do send traffic.
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you don't use a trade script how else can you measure the value of your trades and the quality of the traffic you are sent.
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Can anybody please recommend me a good trading script for a blog which is easy to use?

Thank you.
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Old 10-28-2006, 08:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You have to shift your mindset a little for blogging. Blogging is different from tgp or gallery building. As a blogger your focus should be on developing a relationship with your readers, not on cycling clicks. If you inject some personality into your blogs and develop a trust relationship with your visitors you can accomplish all sorts of things that no tgp ever could. And you can do it with a lot less cost, content and bandwidth.

The value of script traded clicks is excrucuiatingly insignificant compared with the value of well thought out hard coded link trades. These will bring you much more than any traded traffic ever could, and you can manage these very nicely with either Kaktusan's Blogs Organizer, or his Links Organizer scripts. For a real one two punch, understand that the Links Organizer script is compatible with the Blogs Organizer script which means you can incorporate the more advanced link (not traffic) trading features of LO in your BO (and any other kind of ) blogs.

Even for your traffic or filter blogs, there really isn't any place for script traded traffic. The realestate is way more valuable than that. I mean, sure you can do it, and I'm not implying there is anything imoral about it. I'm just suggesting that you are limiting your own results if you do it. If you want to use that realestate for something like traded traffic, just understand that you do so at the cost of other more valuable uses like filtering traffic to your other targetd blogs, sending the reader to a recomended site or trading quality reciprocal and 3rd paryty hard links.

Also consider that where you link to is becoming a factor in how well you may rank. Given this, in the long term would you rather be trading some quality hard coded links with relavant sites or sending readers off to any old where just in the hopes of a few low quality return clicks, many of whom were sent blind to your blog? Remember even if you don't use the skim, others with whom you are trading will. Personally I'd rather not have anyone sent to my blogs blind. I'd rather have real traffic that has an interest in visiting my blog.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As long as there is no skim, I see nothing wrong with using a trade script. In fact, I use a trade script on one site and a top list on another. Although, for the moment, the top list is being used to benifit my link exchange partners that do send traffic.
That's not the point. The main purpose of blogs is to bring you QUALITY, often Search Engine traffic. SE bots DO NOT like coded urls....remember this!

I wouldn't personally ever use a trade script on a blog...that's just me though
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You have to shift your mindset a little for blogging. Blogging is different from tgp or gallery building. As a blogger your focus should be on developing a relationship with your readers, not on cycling clicks. If you inject some personality into your blogs and develop a trust relationship with your visitors you can accomplish all sorts of things that no tgp ever could. And you can do it with a lot less cost, content and bandwidth.

The value of script traded clicks is excrucuiatingly insignificant compared with the value of well thought out hard coded link trades. These will bring you much more than any traded traffic ever could, and you can manage these very nicely with either Kaktusan's Blogs Organizer, or his Links Organizer scripts. For a real one two punch, understand that the Links Organizer script is compatible with the Blogs Organizer script which means you can incorporate the more advanced link (not traffic) trading features of LO in your BO (and any other kind of ) blogs.

Even for your traffic or filter blogs, there really isn't any place for script traded traffic. The realestate is way more valuable than that. I mean, sure you can do it, and I'm not implying there is anything imoral about it. I'm just suggesting that you are limiting your own results if you do it. If you want to use that realestate for something like traded traffic, just understand that you do so at the cost of other more valuable uses like filtering traffic to your other targetd blogs, sending the reader to a recomended site or trading quality reciprocal and 3rd paryty hard links.

Also consider that where you link to is becoming a factor in how well you may rank. Given this, in the long term would you rather be trading some quality hard coded links with relavant sites or sending readers off to any old where just in the hopes of a few low quality return clicks, many of whom were sent blind to your blog? Remember even if you don't use the skim, others with whom you are trading will. Personally I'd rather not have anyone sent to my blogs blind. I'd rather have real traffic that has an interest in visiting my blog.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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That's not the point. The main purpose of blogs is to bring you QUALITY, often Search Engine traffic. SE bots DO NOT like coded urls....remember this!

I wouldn't personally ever use a trade script on a blog...that's just me though
My personal experience is that the SE CAN NOT READ CODED URL's. Show me some proof that they DO NOT like them or penalize you in any matter for them.

I agree that the purpose of a blog is QUALITY but where is the problem with sharing that quality traffic with sites that are quality minded as well and doing so in a manner that is fair or in other words. prioritizing where your outbound traffic goes based on who is sending you the most quality traffic.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:40 AM   #15 (permalink)
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My personal experience is that the SE CAN NOT READ CODED URL's. Show me some proof that they DO NOT like them or penalize you in any matter for them.

I agree that the purpose of a blog is QUALITY but where is the problem with sharing that quality traffic with sites that are quality minded as well and doing so in a manner that is fair or in other words. prioritizing where your outbound traffic goes based on who is sending you the most quality traffic.
The actuall problem from that standpoint is that most of the traffic trading scripts use a 301 redirect. The link actually points to the tradescript on the server and not to the page it is linking to.

Link trade scripts like Kaktusans Links Organizer or Reciprocal Manager, on the other hand create hard coded direct links to the other site and monitor trade activities in the background allowing you to trade much more than simple traffic.

Since what you are proposing is a link trade, not a traffic trade, why not use scripts intended for that purpose and gain the full benefits of it, rather than trying to make another type of script do it, and only gain some of the benefits?
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Old 10-29-2006, 02:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Dane....thanks for pointing me towards Links Organizer it is exactly the script I was looking for and trying to obtain through the use of link exchange scripts and top list scripts.

It's a great script and while I'm not even half way to moving all my links over from my different blogs, I can tell it is going to save me a great deal of time.
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yeah, It's a real good script. I love it. I'm a real fan of Kaktusans work.
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