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Old 04-06-2008, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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pushing name from godaddy reseller

If I want to push name from godaddy reseller to godaddy does that count like pushing with no limits or it counts as a transfer with all that waiting period of couple months?
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have no idea... but I would be interested in knowing about this too.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah hope someone with the knowledge will pop in here
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I had a few transfered to me and it was done right away. However, I had to go in and change all the personal info, DNS, etc.
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Is that a new domain or something older than 60 days? If it's new and if I'm not mistaken you can't push or transfer it in the first 60 days.

If it's older than 60 days, you can push but not transfer out if you've edited any info like contacts or nameservers.

I've sold domains there and mistaken edited some info which kind of were 'being forced' on me by that confusing navigation menu and had angry buyers withdrew their bids as they didn't want their domains at godaddy either.

One the main reason I no longer use them, besides them stealing successful domains is the freaking build to confuse admin area, they make it as confusing as possible to take your business elsewhere with the confusing navigation and FAQ as well as their spams.

Even if you change nameservers, they will take much longer than other registrars so that they can milk your traffic to their parking page for as long as possible.
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It's a conventional transfer fresh, all rules apply including the 60 day lock.

The GoDaddy Group is comprised of separately accredited Registrars all owned by Bob Parsons and operating under one roof (literally).

Resellers are contracted with Wild West Domains (wildwestdomains.com) so any name purchased from a reseller will list WWD as the underlying Registrar. Even though it's all under one roof it's a Registrar to Registrar transfer. WWD to GoDaddy.


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Is that a new domain or something older than 60 days? If it's new and if I'm not mistaken you can't push or transfer it in the first 60 days.

If it's older than 60 days, you can push but not transfer out if you've edited any info like contacts or nameservers.

I've sold domains there and mistaken edited some info which kind of were 'being forced' on me by that confusing navigation menu and had angry buyers withdrew their bids as they didn't want their domains at godaddy either.

One the main reason I no longer use them, besides them stealing successful domains is the freaking build to confuse admin area, they make it as confusing as possible to take your business elsewhere with the confusing navigation and FAQ as well as their spams.

Even if you change nameservers, they will take much longer than other registrars so that they can milk your traffic to their parking page for as long as possible.
You are mistaken, this is more misinformation and happens way to often.

You can do a "push" within minutes after purchasing a domain at any Registrar in the GD group.

"besides them stealing successful domains"
Please, give me one (1) domain name they've stolen. Not a list of ten or hundreds or thousands, just one. If you have no intentions of abiding by the TOS buy your domains elsewhere. I have no desire to house my domains with a Registrar who allows scammers and spammers in the door.

"build to confuse admin area"
Every time additional security levels are added it does become a little more difficult to navigate. With 26,000,000+ domains registered I guess not everyone is confused.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's a conventional transfer fresh, all rules apply including the 60 day lock.


You can do a "push" within minutes after purchasing a domain at any Registrar in the GD group.
Thanks for reply, but could you clarify more as I am confused.
In first sentence you say that 60 day lock rule aply so I can not transfer/push domain. In second sentence you say that I can push it immediately.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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so in short: if I bought domain from you as godaddy reseller could I push it to somebody's godaddy account next day or only after 60 days? If in 60 days than that would be a transfer just like If I transfered to any other registrar for example namecheap.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"so in short: if I bought domain from you as godaddy reseller could I push it to somebody's godaddy account next day or only after 60 days?" - No
In either case, the next day or in 60 days, it would not be qualified for a "push".

Why???

1) GoDaddy is an accredited Registrar.

2) WildWestDomains is an accredited Registrar.

3) Resellers use WildWestDomains as the underlying Registrar which is owned by GoDaddy and is part of the GD Group.

Even though GD and WildWestDomains live in the same building with the same owner they are two separately accredited Registrars.

So transferring a domain from a reseller to GD is a conventional transfer, not a push.
And, transferring a domain from GD to a reseller is a conventional transfer, not a push.
The same as using namecheap as an example.

The term "Push" == an intra-registrar transfer
The domain remains at the same Registrar but is moved to a different account.
Most (but not all) Registrars allow a push immediately after registration or transfer-in.

A "push" is:
RegistrarA-owners account > to > RegistrarA-any account
The Registrar does not change.
The account the domain lives in does change.
A "push" is initiated by the current owner.

A conventional transfer is:
RegistrarA-any account > to > RegistrarB-any account
The Registrar does change.
It doesn't matter who owns the account(s) in this case.
It could be,
seller > to > buyer
you > to > me
me > to > you
you > to > you
me > to > me
Since it's RegistrarA > to > RegistrarB the ICANN 60 day rule applies.

A conventional transfer is usually initiated by the gaining Registrar at an account holders request.

Clear as mud? It is, just gotta get your head wrapped around it.

Basically, just draw a hard line between GD Resellers and GoDaddy.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You are mistaken, this is more misinformation and happens way to often.

You can do a "push" within minutes after purchasing a domain at any Registrar in the GD group.

"besides them stealing successful domains"
Please, give me one (1) domain name they've stolen. Not a list of ten or hundreds or thousands, just one. If you have no intentions of abiding by the TOS buy your domains elsewhere. I have no desire to house my domains with a Registrar who allows scammers and spammers in the door.

"build to confuse admin area"
Every time additional security levels are added it does become a little more difficult to navigate. With 26,000,000+ domains registered I guess not everyone is confused.
It seems like so now you're saying it's 60 days after all??

Here's some example I found in 3 mins in google.

Godaddy grabs a valuable domain name from their customer because of invalid email and profits from it. | Threadwatch.org

Godaddy Holding Customer Sites to Ransom? | Threadwatch.org

Go Daddy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

fuck godaddy!

GoDaddy sorry for anonymity snafu | The Register

MySpace Allegedly Kills Computer Security Website | Threat Level from Wired.com

GoDaddy Silences Police-Watchdog Site RateMyCop.com -- Update | Threat Level from Wired.com

http://nickwilsdon.com/godaddy-block...lient-domains/

NoDaddy.Com - Exposing the Many Reasons Not to Trust GoDaddy with Your Domain Names


Btw I don't see how "26,000,000+ domains registered" gotta do with anything. It certainly doesn't make them a better registrar. McDonald's sell millions of burgers too but that doesn't mean that they make the best, the most delicious or the most nutritious burgers.

A simple search on "how to transfer a domain from Godaddy" or "how to push a domain at godaddy" shows that tons of people, many whom like me have push dozens of domains elsewhere would still need to google on how to do it when a simple navigation will do the same thing and provide the same security.

Their menu is blatantly designed to confuse one from moving out domains while it's easy as can be to buy a webhosting package or more domains and what not.

It's a no brainer not to use them when many others are having problems with them when they can get domains in a cheaper, more secured and friendly place. But hey, if you like to use them so much, by all means stay with them.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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yeah that bold line got me confused at first as well
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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yeah that bold line got me confused at first as well
It's just a matter of knowing the difference between an internal 'push' and a conventional transfer. And, knowing that resellers and the GoDaddy.com retail site are two separate and different Registrars.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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...Btw I don't see how "26,000,000+ domains registered" gotta do with anything....
I believe that.

I'm still waiting on that one (1) domain name that GoDaddy has "stolen".

I couldn't care less about a list of links about people/entities that have broken the TOS. GoDaddy (and their resellers) is not the place to reg domains for scammers, spammers, shysters, thieves or anybody with non legit intentions.

The biggest cry babies in the world are scammers that get busted and lose their domains and/or get their hosting shut down. Pulling domains when there's a TOS violation is just a form of "takin' out the trash".
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I know what you mean.

My point is why take the risk? There are more 'reputable' registrar around. After all there are a lot of threads here with the newbies in mind. I just can't see why they or anyone should get a domain from godaddy.

Maybe you can give us 1 good reason why you think it's better to register a domain or use any of their service at Godaddy? That 1 thing that no one else can do better than Godaddy and at a better price.

If there are crybabies, I haven't seen much crying about namecheap or moniker.

If you're not convinced, how about you tell me the domain you treasure most and I'll see if I can get them to take it from you or at least charge you $199 to reactivate it? I've not done it before but after reading about it so much, it sure doesn't sound too difficult.

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Old 04-09-2008, 08:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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....My point is why take the risk?....
There's no risk if you're legit. All others need not apply.

Namecheap hasn't been a Registrar long enough to comment on. Moniker houses less than 3 mil names, so no, you won't hear about them as much.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It seems like so now you're saying it's 60 days after all??

Here's some example I found in 3 mins in google.

Godaddy grabs a valuable domain name from their customer because of invalid email and profits from it. | Threadwatch.org

Godaddy Holding Customer Sites to Ransom? | Threadwatch.org

Go Daddy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

fuck godaddy!

GoDaddy sorry for anonymity snafu | The Register

MySpace Allegedly Kills Computer Security Website | Threat Level from Wired.com

GoDaddy Silences Police-Watchdog Site RateMyCop.com -- Update | Threat Level from Wired.com

http://nickwilsdon.com/godaddy-block...lient-domains/

NoDaddy.Com - Exposing the Many Reasons Not to Trust GoDaddy with Your Domain Names


Btw I don't see how "26,000,000+ domains registered" gotta do with anything. It certainly doesn't make them a better registrar. McDonald's sell millions of burgers too but that doesn't mean that they make the best, the most delicious or the most nutritious burgers.

A simple search on "how to transfer a domain from Godaddy" or "how to push a domain at godaddy" shows that tons of people, many whom like me have push dozens of domains elsewhere would still need to google on how to do it when a simple navigation will do the same thing and provide the same security.

Their menu is blatantly designed to confuse one from moving out domains while it's easy as can be to buy a webhosting package or more domains and what not.

It's a no brainer not to use them when many others are having problems with them when they can get domains in a cheaper, more secured and friendly place. But hey, if you like to use them so much, by all means stay with them.
99.9% of domains people say were stolen or ripped off by a registrar are
actually lost by their own stupidity. Most have a bad whois addy and when
the registrar sends expiring email they don't get them and it expires.

menu is blatantly designed to confuse one
My 13 year old Niece registered 3 domains at GoDaddy without getting confused. Registrars make their $$$ selling everything from Hosting to
Privacy, not the Dollar they made on the domain sale.

Btw I don't see how "26,000,000+ domains registered" gotta do with anything
With that many people you have to get a large % of people who don't
know they're asshole from a sinkhole so you get complaints.

If GD is so bad why do people who have large amts of domains use them?

Moniker is another top registrar.
GOOGLE= 62,400 for domain registrar moniker
complaints

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