Is it better to buy a new domain name for a search term?

Head Boy · 06-27-2005, 06:42 AM

My domain Pointenslutten the dot com seems to have gone to #1 in MSN, but hasn't made it onto any page in Google. Do you think that the long haul with a new domain name is better than quick results with a sub-domain/directory.

gothic · 06-27-2005, 02:03 PM

Thanks for this thread, HB! That's one I have been thinking about many times and still haven't found a real solid answer. I read pro's and contra's from both sides...
It's rather difficult for me to put numbers/values on either...
If anyone can shed some light on this, I hope it gets copied to the "newbie tutorials" too!

Head Boy · 06-27-2005, 02:52 PM

My feeling about it is that a new domain is useful in at least two cases. If the site is here for the long haul, ie. more than 2 years, and also if it's getting type-ins (or old links).

xanthias · 06-27-2005, 06:10 PM

i go for old links and typeins personally. but if i know im going to have a site for the long haul, ill go with something catchy people will remember...

karl · 06-29-2005, 08:01 PM

Maybe you are in the sandbox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Head Boy

My domain Pointenslutten the dot com seems to have gone to #1 in MSN, but hasn't made it onto any page in Google. Do you think that the long haul with a new domain name is better than quick results with a sub-domain/directory.

Head Boy · 06-30-2005, 07:57 AM

It looks as if it has made it for a few days. It just shows that a well chosen domain name is still a powerful tool for gaining good traffic.

ScreaM · 06-30-2005, 08:31 AM

You have both the 1st as well as the 2nd place on Google, thanks to that domain.

Blinky · 06-30-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaM

You have both the 1st as well as the 2nd place on Google, thanks to that domain.

It might not be just the domain, there are plenty of #1 results that don't include the keyword(s) in the domain at all. In this case it's pretty likely but I don't want newbies giving up because most keyword domains were taken years ago.

Head Boy · 06-30-2005, 09:29 AM

You're right Blinky - the name is just one factor.

Even though many of the keyword domains have been registered already, some of them are dropping every day. One of the things that we can discuss in this forum is the different ways to catch them.

msanchez · 07-04-2005, 01:43 PM

Well I always think of the long haul when buying a name, and I almost always try to go with key-word.com style domains. I dont have any real hard facts to back up for this decision, except that when I surf the net and Im looking for free horny milfs and I come across the page free-horny-milfs.com I think the page has more to do with free horny milfs than a domain like superxxxfreeporn.com/free-horny-milfs/ for example

So right or wrong thats how I have been choosing domains, but thats why Im reading the threads in this forum to learn more about what goes into choosing a domain name and why?

Head Boy · 07-04-2005, 03:41 PM

I think you are right msanchez - it's no good being number one in google if you've got a crap and obviously spammy entry that nobody will click.

Head Boy · 07-15-2005, 01:25 PM

I thought I would bump this to continue the discussion about using single word domain names for good SE positioning. pointenslutten - the dot com seems to be holding up fairly well despite a quick and amateurish page structure by me.

DirtyJumbo · 07-15-2005, 03:10 PM

Maybe this is off topic, but how long does it take to get out of the "sandbox"?

slaxxx · 07-15-2005, 03:28 PM

dirtyjumbo,

http://forums.seochat.com/t17418/s.html goes over this and qualifies the answer way better than i could. lot of other good stuff in there as well, it's the SEOchat FAQ.

remember a lot of stuff isn't exactly proven...doesn't come from google's mouth

Head Boy · 07-15-2005, 03:42 PM

Google seems to do some strange things and vary the rules to keep the SEO guys on their toes. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't throw in some random promotions just to confuse them. I still haven't worked out why www.HeadBoy.com is 2nd out of over 15 million pages for the word pair "head boy"

slaxxx · 07-15-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Head Boy

I still haven't worked out why www.HeadBoy.com is 2nd out of over 15 million pages for the word pair "head boy"

wonder how much the boards contribute to that...with your headboy.com links and how many times "head boy" is said

06-27-2005, 06:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	Is it better to buy a new domain name for a search term? My domain Pointenslutten the dot com seems to have gone to #1 in MSN, but hasn't made it onto any page in Google. Do you think that the long haul with a new domain name is better than quick results with a sub-domain/directory. __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

06-27-2005, 02:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	My feeling about it is that a new domain is useful in at least two cases. If the site is here for the long haul, ie. more than 2 years, and also if it's getting type-ins (or old links). __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

06-27-2005, 06:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
xanthias i'm bad Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At Netpond Biatch... Posts: 3,602 Points: 0	i go for old links and typeins personally. but if i know im going to have a site for the long haul, ill go with something catchy people will remember... __________________ <center><a href=http://sinful18.com>Sinful 18 Pornstars</a><br>icq:313788227 email: xanthias_gmail_com</center>

06-30-2005, 07:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	It looks as if it has made it for a few days. It just shows that a well chosen domain name is still a powerful tool for gaining good traffic. __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

06-30-2005, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
ScreaM The Bumpmeister Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 79,000 Points: 1,760	You have both the 1st as well as the 2nd place on Google, thanks to that domain. __________________

06-27-2005, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
gothic A new newbie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 6,126 Points: 5	Thanks for this thread, HB! That's one I have been thinking about many times and still haven't found a real solid answer. I read pro's and contra's from both sides... It's rather difficult for me to put numbers/values on either... If anyone can shed some light on this, I hope it gets copied to the "newbie tutorials" too!

06-30-2005, 09:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	You're right Blinky - the name is just one factor. Even though many of the keyword domains have been registered already, some of them are dropping every day. One of the things that we can discuss in this forum is the different ways to catch them. __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

07-04-2005, 01:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
msanchez Black Wind, Fire, And Steel Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,710 Points: 820	Well I always think of the long haul when buying a name, and I almost always try to go with key-word.com style domains. I dont have any real hard facts to back up for this decision, except that when I surf the net and Im looking for free horny milfs and I come across the page free-horny-milfs.com I think the page has more to do with free horny milfs than a domain like superxxxfreeporn.com/free-horny-milfs/ for example So right or wrong thats how I have been choosing domains, but thats why Im reading the threads in this forum to learn more about what goes into choosing a domain name and why? __________________ I buy text links, clicked traffic, blog posts, and more. Send me a pm. Domains For Sale

07-04-2005, 03:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	I think you are right msanchez - it's no good being number one in google if you've got a crap and obviously spammy entry that nobody will click. __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

07-15-2005, 01:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	I thought I would bump this to continue the discussion about using single word domain names for good SE positioning. pointenslutten - the dot com seems to be holding up fairly well despite a quick and amateurish page structure by me. __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

07-15-2005, 03:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
DirtyJumbo Fuck the system, it fucking sucks Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: So close no matter how far... Posts: 18,738 Points: 410	Maybe this is off topic, but how long does it take to get out of the "sandbox"? __________________ ePass Sponsors Choker Traffic Juicy Ads Shemale Sponsors PR2 Latin/teen links for sale

07-15-2005, 03:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
slaxxx Leopard User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NY Posts: 5,175 Points: 2,992	dirtyjumbo, http://forums.seochat.com/t17418/s.html goes over this and qualifies the answer way better than i could. lot of other good stuff in there as well, it's the SEOchat FAQ. remember a lot of stuff isn't exactly proven...doesn't come from google's mouth

07-15-2005, 03:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Head Boy Net Baron Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 44,907 Points: 8,761	Google seems to do some strange things and vary the rules to keep the SEO guys on their toes. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't throw in some random promotions just to confuse them. I still haven't worked out why www.HeadBoy.com is 2nd out of over 15 million pages for the word pair "head boy" __________________ Baronets (incorporating Domains for Porn and G8S) is the new name for my domain management services.

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