CMS Tutorial / Project

StiffyMcSpliff · 03-14-2007, 04:44 PM

Well, I haven't been around in awhile. I've been lurking around the dark corners of the boards, but I've been keeping my head down and getting work done.

Now that I have completed a bunch of tasks, I thought it would be a good time to launch my portal project. I'm not sure how many part's it will take to complete, but I will continue to answer questions in this thread until they stop

So why use a portal?

Well, this is my story... I'm a web guru who has been around since the late 80's playing on the internet (well, the early version of the net). I kinda bombed out on the first .com boom because I was more interested in college fun than work, and missed the boat.

I decided in 2003 to enter the adult market, but after about a year, I still was working way more than money going into my pocket. I decided it was time to diversify, so I started doing web design as a side business, and continued to play with internett marketing.

I've spent time on the phone with Sleazy Bear, I've talked to hundreds of other webmasters and I've learned just about everything I needed to know to make a living. I just wasn't interested in building 2 galleries and a free-site every day. My graphic design skills are pretty sharp for a hobby, but not really good enough to be an efficent professional, so by the time I did the building, submitting and emailing, I was burning out quick and not seeing much in return. I decided it was time to venture out on my own, and see where I end up doing business.

I started off selling bongs on the internet, and thats when I found XML feeds from sponsors. It was great, I just built a page utilizing an XML parser, did a quick php template and bang I had a store with 3000 items.

I loved it, I started to see almost instant profit and never had to worry about updating it. I just checked for hacking attempts, and stats.

I thought "Wow, my other sponsors are way behind the rest of the industry". So I made the decision to expand. I focused on the bong and smoking accessory market and continued to grow.

Just as it was looking like a descent part-time job fund, the Harper government was elected here in Kanuckistan (Canada for the rest of ya

). I knew crack downs on the retailers of pot related accessories would happen, so I shut down immediately.

I decided that it was better to sit back and wait for my other sponsors to catch up. In the meantime I started playing with content managment systems. XOOPS, PHPNuke, DruPal, WordPress and countless others were installed, tested, and dumped. None of them would allow me to mold a site. Instead they were designed for specific types of sites.

Finally I decided I would try the one with the weird ass name, Joomla. At first I was really confused. This wasn't just a CMS... it was a WOS! (Web Operating System)

I hated how other systems had either no SEF functionallity (Search Engine Friendly URL's), had no ability to mold a front end properly (XHTML, CSS, and W3C validity) and just wouldn't work.

Joomla allowed me to do all these things, in a matter of hours instead of weeks. I was really impressed so I put up a couple of portals, installed some addon SEF components and started adding content.

Boy, I missed those XML feeds. So I searched around and found that finally sponsors were offering somewhat functional XML feeds, so I found Joomla components to manipulate those feeds to get my links to my surfers.

Thats when I discovered that you could take that XML feed, import it directly into your database and make a page dedicated to it. I started adding in both feeds from sponsors and from news sources. Suddenly, I was adding 1000 pages to my network per day. All with the nice URL of http://whatever.com/buy-my/trinkets/...endly_url.html

Ok, that done, lets see what google thinks.

Well, here a year later, as of today I have 12,000 from just one domain in google's index, and around 16,000 in Yahoo!'s index.

Now, I'm going to teach you all how to do the same thing. When we've finished it will take approximately 10 minutes per day to run each site. With-in 6 months of 10 minutes work per day you will have around 10,000 pages done. Give it a year, and add more RSS feeds in, and you can have even more.

Not to mention if you want to change sponsors, banner ads, link trades, etc, it only takes a minute to affect the change, site wide.

I've posted part 1 here:
http://paperjam.ca/news/notices/robs....html?Itemid=1

I would have posted the whole tutorial here, but the images were causing me stress.

Anyhow... questions?

nadanada · 03-14-2007, 09:51 PM

i'll start tinkering with this over the next few days. thanks

Hentaikid · 03-15-2007, 09:30 AM

Thanks a lot, I have a joomla install in one of my undeveloped sites but every time I tinker with it I end up overwhelmed, I'm really interested.

clsunli · 03-15-2007, 04:12 PM

i loved joomla until for some reason every time i install it i cant get rid of errors. i go to make an article or whatever i cant, i just get that annoying error where "Done" in the bottom of your browser should be. I installed mambo which i THINK ..THINK is about the same thing. no problems, no errors. and it loads alot faster than my older WORKING joomla's did. can a person still follow along using Mambo?

StiffyMcSpliff · 03-16-2007, 02:36 AM

Yeah, Mambo SHOULD work.... I don't know forsure. I'll post a list of components/modules we will be adding in to the system, so download them (all available at extensions.joomla.org) and see if they work:

- ATRIO SEF (Component, Module)
- AllVideo (mambot)
- FeedGator (do a google search on "feedgator 0.7" to find the latest version, which is a hack).

If your having problems getting joomla installed, send me a PM.

I'll be posting part 2 either tomorrow or Monday, so stay tuned to this thread.

Oh, and I will be posting this tutorial in Netpond Resources once it has been completed.

StiffyMcSpliff · 03-16-2007, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid

Thanks a lot, I have a joomla install in one of my undeveloped sites but every time I tinker with it I end up overwhelmed, I'm really interested.

Yeah, its a very complicated system to get used to, but soooooo powerful.

Once we are done this tutorial, you should have all the "in's and out's" figured out.

Nymph · 03-16-2007, 05:44 AM

This sounds interesting. I had installed PHPNuke on one of my domains, played with it a little, but kept "finding" other stuff to do rather than develope the site.

I think I'll do an install of joomla and play along to see where this takes me.

Thanks for the nudge to get working on that site again.

Kappi · 03-16-2007, 05:56 AM

Just a post to get subscribed to this thread. Keep it going, sounds like an interesting project!

StiffyMcSpliff · 03-16-2007, 02:51 PM

Ok, I've posted part 2:

http://paperjam.ca/tutorials/content....html?Itemid=1

And I've moved part 1 here:

http://paperjam.ca/tutorials/content....html?Itemid=1

Its going to be a week before I get to part 3. Gotta love March Break

I will have time to answer questions, so if you got them post them or shoot me a PM.

clsunli · 03-16-2007, 06:48 PM

Okay stiffy..i just seen this was in the Mainstream Webmasters area..(i seen the title and..everything else seemed blurred i guess) im going to do what ya said so far.. if i cant use mambo, ill keep you updated. i may need some tech help with an error i get when i install it. i can fix the one thing, but the other.. i have no freaking clue. will let you know what THAT is.. if it happens to me again..and btw..can this be utilized for an adult type community more geared toward issues etc..than just porn posts.

Pornicator · 03-20-2007, 06:20 PM

Awesome! Thank you StiffyMcSpliff
That's exactly what i was looking for..

StiffyMcSpliff · 04-08-2007, 06:36 PM

Hey, sorry for the delay in posting this, but I've been swamped at work. Anyhow, hammered it out today:

Rob's Portal Setup Tutorial - Part 3

Just to let you guys (and gals) know how well this is working for me, my SE traffic is up over 300% network wide, some sites its up over 1000% for google (10,500% for Yahoo, but I think thats just a sign they finally indexed me.)

KCat · 04-13-2007, 09:47 PM

Thanks for this! I have a Joomla site that I've basically abandoned because I found it too time consuming to add new pages. It's hard to wrap your head around building a site as a CMS instead of page by page where you have easy layout control right on your desktop, but I can see how it could be a lot simpler once the bugs were worked out.

Keep updating us!

ReyRey · 04-14-2007, 03:34 AM

I have always wanted to get into mambo/joomla but never did. I will definitely try this out! Thanks for the info

One question though.

If i want to use Joomla one of my domains and I want to work on sub domains for different niches would I have to install joomla on each subdomain or is there another way of doing this?

ReyRey

StiffyMcSpliff · 04-14-2007, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReyRey

If i want to use Joomla one of my domains and I want to work on sub domains for different niches would I have to install joomla on each subdomain or is there another way of doing this?

While it is possible, I still haven't worked out a method of doing so thats very efficent.

ReyRey · 04-16-2007, 04:16 AM

So best thing to do is set up my subdomains and add a new install of joomla to each. Well at least this is the way I will be doing it. Now I got some questions for you Stiffy.

How long on your joomla portal sites did it take to start seeing SE traffic?

What do you suggest for a SEO Template for Joomla?

When adding the rss feeds do you add all the items and make them into articles/pages/posts right away or do you do this a little at a time?

One last thing. When will you be putting up the next installment of this tutorial?

Thanks

ReyRey

PornFactory · 04-16-2007, 06:54 AM

Thanks for great tutorial... can't wait for the next part...

sheepish · 04-16-2007, 01:00 PM

Looks interesting and I'm in the process of reading. Long live submitting to threads

M.

p.s. any problems with duplicate content and google not liking it?

pvt.spanky · 04-16-2007, 07:05 PM

So, is the main idea of this to let feedgator create new articles for you on a daily basis?

StiffyMcSpliff · 04-17-2007, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReyRey

How long on your joomla portal sites did it take to start seeing SE traffic?

Depends on the site. I had one in google's index to begin with, and it went nuts after the second crawl of the site. I've been averaging a 30% increase of traffic per day from google. Yahoo and MSN have just caught the site, so their traffic is rising slowly.

Your SEO should be pretty much the same, making the CMS your using a non-issue. Back links is the biggest thing. That same site has links to some of the biggest sites in its category and a PR4 (probably taking a jump to 5 next update).

You should randomly scan your pages and see what keywords and descriptions are being generated for pages to ensure the system is working for your content.

And deffinatley make sure your stats package has ways to track your keyword hits. I regularly go back through my keywords for the last few months and check the top 5. I search the content and move articles related to that keyword to its own new category. Google love's it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReyRey

What do you suggest for a SEO Template for Joomla?

Honestly? I've found nothing but crap out there for templates. Even alot of the ones you can buy are crap for SEO (though most WM's get sucked in cause they "look good").

Their are a lot of tutorials out there for how to build your own template, but unless you know PHP, XML, Dreamweaver and have a good solid development background, its a pain in the ass. I spent 6 months learning how to build them to work well with SEO.

If you don't want to take the time, I'll give a NP special of a basic one column template for $50 US (Epass or points). Just PM me. You can also checkout a bunch of my templates on my site (see sig). If you need something more advanced I can do some pretty wild stuff with Joomla templating and CSS

Enough of a shameless plug.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReyRey

When adding the rss feeds do you add all the items and make them into articles/pages/posts right away or do you do this a little at a time?

It depends on the amount of feeds I can get for that "niche". If I can only get a few, I don't publish them, just search through and publish a few per day.

I have some sites with over 40 RSS feeds coming in so I publish them automatically but only set them to be published for 30-40 days and then I have an auto-archive bot archive them to the archived section. I'll explain more in my next tutorial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReyRey

One last thing. When will you be putting up the next installment of this tutorial?

Hmmm... in a week or so I think... I'm doing this in my spare time, and I don't have a lot these days so it may be a few weeks between posts, but I plan on running this tutorial for a few months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReyRey

Thanks

ReyRey

No problem

03-14-2007, 04:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
StiffyMcSpliff Eye Candy Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian Arctic Posts: 647 Points: 0	CMS Tutorial / Project Well, I haven't been around in awhile. I've been lurking around the dark corners of the boards, but I've been keeping my head down and getting work done. Now that I have completed a bunch of tasks, I thought it would be a good time to launch my portal project. I'm not sure how many part's it will take to complete, but I will continue to answer questions in this thread until they stop So why use a portal? Well, this is my story... I'm a web guru who has been around since the late 80's playing on the internet (well, the early version of the net). I kinda bombed out on the first .com boom because I was more interested in college fun than work, and missed the boat. I decided in 2003 to enter the adult market, but after about a year, I still was working way more than money going into my pocket. I decided it was time to diversify, so I started doing web design as a side business, and continued to play with internett marketing. I've spent time on the phone with Sleazy Bear, I've talked to hundreds of other webmasters and I've learned just about everything I needed to know to make a living. I just wasn't interested in building 2 galleries and a free-site every day. My graphic design skills are pretty sharp for a hobby, but not really good enough to be an efficent professional, so by the time I did the building, submitting and emailing, I was burning out quick and not seeing much in return. I decided it was time to venture out on my own, and see where I end up doing business. I started off selling bongs on the internet, and thats when I found XML feeds from sponsors. It was great, I just built a page utilizing an XML parser, did a quick php template and bang I had a store with 3000 items. I loved it, I started to see almost instant profit and never had to worry about updating it. I just checked for hacking attempts, and stats. I thought "Wow, my other sponsors are way behind the rest of the industry". So I made the decision to expand. I focused on the bong and smoking accessory market and continued to grow. Just as it was looking like a descent part-time job fund, the Harper government was elected here in Kanuckistan (Canada for the rest of ya ). I knew crack downs on the retailers of pot related accessories would happen, so I shut down immediately. I decided that it was better to sit back and wait for my other sponsors to catch up. In the meantime I started playing with content managment systems. XOOPS, PHPNuke, DruPal, WordPress and countless others were installed, tested, and dumped. None of them would allow me to mold a site. Instead they were designed for specific types of sites. Finally I decided I would try the one with the weird ass name, Joomla. At first I was really confused. This wasn't just a CMS... it was a WOS! (Web Operating System) I hated how other systems had either no SEF functionallity (Search Engine Friendly URL's), had no ability to mold a front end properly (XHTML, CSS, and W3C validity) and just wouldn't work. Joomla allowed me to do all these things, in a matter of hours instead of weeks. I was really impressed so I put up a couple of portals, installed some addon SEF components and started adding content. Boy, I missed those XML feeds. So I searched around and found that finally sponsors were offering somewhat functional XML feeds, so I found Joomla components to manipulate those feeds to get my links to my surfers. Thats when I discovered that you could take that XML feed, import it directly into your database and make a page dedicated to it. I started adding in both feeds from sponsors and from news sources. Suddenly, I was adding 1000 pages to my network per day. All with the nice URL of http://whatever.com/buy-my/trinkets/...endly_url.html Ok, that done, lets see what google thinks. Well, here a year later, as of today I have 12,000 from just one domain in google's index, and around 16,000 in Yahoo!'s index. Now, I'm going to teach you all how to do the same thing. When we've finished it will take approximately 10 minutes per day to run each site. With-in 6 months of 10 minutes work per day you will have around 10,000 pages done. Give it a year, and add more RSS feeds in, and you can have even more. Not to mention if you want to change sponsors, banner ads, link trades, etc, it only takes a minute to affect the change, site wide. I've posted part 1 here: http://paperjam.ca/news/notices/robs....html?Itemid=1 I would have posted the whole tutorial here, but the images were causing me stress. Anyhow... questions? __________________ PaperJam :: CMS - E-Commerce - Design Solutions

03-15-2007, 04:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
clsunli who took the HO outta HO HO ? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: West By God Virginia Posts: 3,983 Points: 165	i loved joomla until for some reason every time i install it i cant get rid of errors. i go to make an article or whatever i cant, i just get that annoying error where "Done" in the bottom of your browser should be. I installed mambo which i THINK ..THINK is about the same thing. no problems, no errors. and it loads alot faster than my older WORKING joomla's did. can a person still follow along using Mambo? __________________ - i change my MIND more than i change my batteries.

03-16-2007, 02:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
StiffyMcSpliff Eye Candy Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian Arctic Posts: 647 Points: 0	Yeah, Mambo SHOULD work.... I don't know forsure. I'll post a list of components/modules we will be adding in to the system, so download them (all available at extensions.joomla.org) and see if they work: - ATRIO SEF (Component, Module) - AllVideo (mambot) - FeedGator (do a google search on "feedgator 0.7" to find the latest version, which is a hack). If your having problems getting joomla installed, send me a PM. I'll be posting part 2 either tomorrow or Monday, so stay tuned to this thread. Oh, and I will be posting this tutorial in Netpond Resources once it has been completed. __________________ PaperJam :: CMS - E-Commerce - Design Solutions

03-16-2007, 02:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
StiffyMcSpliff Eye Candy Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian Arctic Posts: 647 Points: 0	Ok, I've posted part 2: http://paperjam.ca/tutorials/content....html?Itemid=1 And I've moved part 1 here: http://paperjam.ca/tutorials/content....html?Itemid=1 Its going to be a week before I get to part 3. Gotta love March Break I will have time to answer questions, so if you got them post them or shoot me a PM. __________________ PaperJam :: CMS - E-Commerce - Design Solutions

03-16-2007, 06:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
clsunli who took the HO outta HO HO ? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: West By God Virginia Posts: 3,983 Points: 165	Okay stiffy..i just seen this was in the Mainstream Webmasters area..(i seen the title and..everything else seemed blurred i guess) im going to do what ya said so far.. if i cant use mambo, ill keep you updated. i may need some tech help with an error i get when i install it. i can fix the one thing, but the other.. i have no freaking clue. will let you know what THAT is.. if it happens to me again..and btw..can this be utilized for an adult type community more geared toward issues etc..than just porn posts. __________________ - i change my MIND more than i change my batteries.

03-14-2007, 09:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
nadanada howdy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 71 Points: 0	i'll start tinkering with this over the next few days. thanks

03-15-2007, 09:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hentaikid Yep, I made this animation myself Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,896 Points: 5	Thanks a lot, I have a joomla install in one of my undeveloped sites but every time I tinker with it I end up overwhelmed, I'm really interested.

03-16-2007, 05:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nymph I got my grip on Netpond! Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47 Points: 235	This sounds interesting. I had installed PHPNuke on one of my domains, played with it a little, but kept "finding" other stuff to do rather than develope the site. I think I'll do an install of joomla and play along to see where this takes me. Thanks for the nudge to get working on that site again.

03-16-2007, 05:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Kappi Working.. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,211 Points: 70	Just a post to get subscribed to this thread. Keep it going, sounds like an interesting project!

03-20-2007, 06:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pornicator This is a custom user title Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 261 Points: 475	Awesome! Thank you StiffyMcSpliff That's exactly what i was looking for.. __________________ Top converting sponsor this month(since jan 06): Teenmegacash Thumblogger, Free adult blog hosting

04-08-2007, 06:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
StiffyMcSpliff Eye Candy Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian Arctic Posts: 647 Points: 0	Update Hey, sorry for the delay in posting this, but I've been swamped at work. Anyhow, hammered it out today: Rob's Portal Setup Tutorial - Part 3 Just to let you guys (and gals) know how well this is working for me, my SE traffic is up over 300% network wide, some sites its up over 1000% for google (10,500% for Yahoo, but I think thats just a sign they finally indexed me.) __________________ PaperJam :: CMS - E-Commerce - Design Solutions

04-13-2007, 09:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
KCat Netpond tadpole in training Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 66 Points: 70	Thanks for this! I have a Joomla site that I've basically abandoned because I found it too time consuming to add new pages. It's hard to wrap your head around building a site as a CMS instead of page by page where you have easy layout control right on your desktop, but I can see how it could be a lot simpler once the bugs were worked out. Keep updating us!

04-14-2007, 03:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
ReyRey Da Bears!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,559 Points: 180	I have always wanted to get into mambo/joomla but never did. I will definitely try this out! Thanks for the info One question though. If i want to use Joomla one of my domains and I want to work on sub domains for different niches would I have to install joomla on each subdomain or is there another way of doing this? ReyRey __________________ Buy Top Rate Traffic Here \|Great PPC Sponsor \| Porn Movies Last edited by ReyRey : 04-14-2007 at 03:46 AM.

04-16-2007, 04:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
ReyRey Da Bears!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,559 Points: 180	So best thing to do is set up my subdomains and add a new install of joomla to each. Well at least this is the way I will be doing it. Now I got some questions for you Stiffy. How long on your joomla portal sites did it take to start seeing SE traffic? What do you suggest for a SEO Template for Joomla? When adding the rss feeds do you add all the items and make them into articles/pages/posts right away or do you do this a little at a time? One last thing. When will you be putting up the next installment of this tutorial? Thanks ReyRey __________________ Buy Top Rate Traffic Here \|Great PPC Sponsor \| Porn Movies

04-16-2007, 06:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
PornFactory Porn is my game! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 10,394 Points: 390	Thanks for great tutorial... can't wait for the next part... __________________ REAL WEBCAM MONEY MAKER \| CHEAP FREESITE TEMPLATES - $40 for 28 templates - PM me \|

04-16-2007, 01:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
sheepish Flatulance is a virtue Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England Posts: 58 Points: 10	Looks interesting and I'm in the process of reading. Long live submitting to threads M. p.s. any problems with duplicate content and google not liking it?

04-16-2007, 07:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
pvt.spanky If we're fucked up, you're to blame... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Alpha Platoon Posts: 3,138 Points: 365	So, is the main idea of this to let feedgator create new articles for you on a daily basis? __________________ Adult Webmaster Blog

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