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Old 01-27-2008, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Making a living from adsense or other adrevenue company in 2008 (bit whitehat one)

I am not that pro.. and no one is.. gurus sucks.. they are after your money and nothing else... but learning never ends.. i am a student

But let me share some experience

What is our primary objective in life.. ? Make money and live happier and healthy and enjoy sexual and family life! Feed our children and take care of our parents..

Life is precious and very short span of life.. you born u grow. you grow old. and gone..

time is running away from us.. and loosing our precious time for nothing means ..


Lot of ppl comes in internet with intension to make a living or earn some good amount of quick money so they can quit day job or retire early

Good dreaming and hoping is good.. but you know a little bit of calculation and goal setting and work management and direction is needed..


For some countries $500 month is lot of money . For certain age (even in us-canada-uk-aus) $500 is lot of money like teens and young even

For others it’s a pocket exchange or payment of some day to day life bills

First thing ppl dream is making money with adsense.. lets do some practical thinking in the perspective of 2008

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Yes its 2008. Things have changed.
Early days u could bring a site do some directory submission link building for certain keyword rank high in page 1 2 3 4 of google and make shit load of adsense + affiliate sales. You could even dream $2 $5 $10 per adsense click

Now days no matter how hard you try.. your average click will be 7cents or 10cents if luck is good.. yes u will get some $1 $2 here and there clicks but google will come and smart price your account

So how to think positive about it
a friend and I got 3000 google adsense clicks on a site with more then 30 000 visitors
and earning was only $250+. so 8 cent average clicks..

Some niche pays more like web hosting or make money or health/medical .. but getting 30k unique visitors isn’t easy on those niche. and at the end of the month even if u made 1000$ google will come and smart price u..

First thing u got to do is in 2008.
You must get content .. and catchy titles.. whether its a hot recent event or hot news or something sensational.. or some hot pics and videos..
the biggest content re-writer is your brain..Do something You know and love.. if u love cricket then build a site with cricket gossips cricket star pics cricket news and interesting videos

then hit the social bookmark sites related forums and video sites with your catchy title and website links.. stumble it 100 times or digg it 100 times.. and dont stop there.. Try to build content and post as if you are contributing to the community.. not spamming it...

check your google impression and clicks after few hours..
do you have 2$? adsense in there??
don’t stop.. find forums find different country based sites(who said usa visitors only pay.. try malaysian or indian visitors) find topsites.. check google again
Is 10$?? there? (Forgot to tell u never spam any board/or violate rules). answer yahoo questions related to your site and at least answer 100 questions..post comments on youtube and ficker as much as possible without looking u r spamming.. find google and yahoo groups related to your site that allow post without moderation and blast

is $20 there in adsense?? can u repeat the hard work for 1 more site? 40$ a day?? ehh

can u do it 30 days? or take break in sunday or friday and do it on other days

remember in 2008 the moment u stop working and promoting the moment your earning start to drop.. i had 50 proxies all used to rank well in google adsense.. and 1 day the places are all taken by someone else.. why? cause they were working and i stopped..
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Now what about other advertising companies

yaa you can try adbrite and cpxinteractive (one that u see in top of many forum) and few others.. they pay per impression

make a site sexier(not hardcore porn) or file download related (yaa not allowed to tell in this forum) or a tvshow series live watch site like the (illegal in USA be warned/copyright violation)
Quote:hxxp://watchthesimpsonsonline.com (making 30$ a day with 3 sites like this)

or make a site where users submit contents like a forum (yaa like the one you are reading posting) or social bookmark promote it hell lot and be ready to invest money on promotion/ Outsource it
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remember what ever u do

money isnt going to come on a click of a button
and 1000 2000 visitors in a month will earn u merely some few bucks in 2008

Unless u started a autosurf or hyip or ptc and plan to scam other ppls //

Good luck!


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What about black hat ways and fast success?? there is no easy money and no rss generator or wordpress auto generator or cloacker will make you rich tomorrow.. they are tools.. like a knife.. its your brain and content and how you use those tools will make you money.. and i am not allowed to share the black hat tools.. but give hint money is in they keyword list and entertainment industry and traffic selling(yaa if you buy you loose)
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great post, pretty inspiring for me, as I'm thinking about getting into mainstream as soon as I pass all my exams
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What a very confusing, broken engish post that didn't actually say anything...
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ahmed21, I have several sites that bring around $1-$2 each per day, and they are not updated and not maintained... not even hot shot domains... it all goes down to the niche you choose

per click I get $0.30 - $0.47 (was max I think so far)

now, multiply that, and you have a steady income easy.

big numbers X small earnings = big money
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Old 01-29-2008, 02:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My adsense average is only 12c not the highest and I have been playing around with some other contextual advertising.

I agree content and catchy titles is important. One important aspect you missed is search engines, they bring in on average for me 50%-60% of my traffic and thats where good money can come from.

I don't agree with your comments on ptc and autosurf's. Not all ptc and autosurf's scam people, some have been around for a long time and have constantly payed well.

Your post has some good points that people can work with.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i didnt missed search engines..

friends one thing we miss out is who ever searches in search engines are humans..

Unless dogs or cats get smarter (lets forget about automated scrapper robots)

so human searches with long tail keywords.. like as if they are searching for a solution or answer to a question.. not like cat dog mice etc single word keywords

for example ppl will search like this

free web hosting
best free hosting
100% free hosting
what is the best free web hosting
like this bla bla to infinity a human man can think of until he find what he was looking for

and when a human visitor does that

he will see

forums threads poping up in google(like digital point) yahoo answers youtube videos blogspot domain hubpages digg stumbleupon etc etc


so what you get?

if you have followed the technic and posted on forums social bookmark sites yahoo answers youtube flicer blogspot topsites and everything related to your target niche

you are getting forever search engine traffic..
yes forever

even search engines cant ban you

(unless u spam)

example of such practice is a site with web hosting coupon site with adsense

just answer 1000s of forum thread question/yahoo answers about where can i get latest coupon or hostgator or hostname coupon. get the coupon code as soon as possible from your sponsor and post on 150 social bookmark site saying "new coupon code for 2008" or "new hostgator coupon big discount"

and you will get instant traffic + later search engine traffic almost within 2 days of listing

why? cause search engines are indexing top high class forums like digital point or netpond or problem solvers like yahoo answers.. or video sites like youtube or blog sites like blogspot

there is the white hat money..

what about article directory and directory submission?? link exchange
emmm .. they are so 1995. but do those as well.. they are slow but effective traffic.. but you wont get your site high.. unless you target some new or low competition keyword .. or something that appeared just now in hot news..
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uh, ok... whatever you say.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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be aware..

never spam..

first thing you got to do is build the site that is a solution or what people was looking for. or a collection of links/reviews/downloads/ that may be useful to a certain group of ppls..

lets get into another example

hire a designer build 4 wordpress theme (currently adult themes widget ready and looking great are hard to find and if you search on netpond you will see many questions but only 1 good site http://www.wordpress-themes.topeve.com)

do you know how much people ready to download these themes? 26000++ webmasters may be more

build a nice site with demo and download links of your theme and say that who ever use these themes must not remove your links ..

now you cant moneytize adult themes site with google adsense.. so name it youtube theme movie site theme image gallery theme etc etc

put cpa offers or other moneytizers like cpx interactive etc on your site


now put your site link in the theme and you can put upto 3 links..get sponsors(they will pay) if you have full rights to the theme from dp or other webmaster forum

good you have a site and solution to peoples query about free adult wordpress theme or free movie site wordpress theme


great you are now confident.. why.. cause you have really done something to the web, you can contribute now to 100 000 places.. yes endless places.. and you will start to get visitors just from now the word go..

you can use blogspot and rapidshare if you dont want to pay hosting bills

start submitting

http://www.themebot.com
http://www.themesbase.com
http://www.wpskins.org
http://www.wpsnap.com
http://www.wpthemesfree.com
http://www.webmaster-talk.com
http://forum.easywordpress.com
http://www.csschat.com
http://www.freelayouts.com
http://board.themevibes.com/wordpress-themes/
http://forums.digitalpoint.com
http://freewpthemes.info
http://themes.blogflux.com
http://www.bloggingthemes.com
http://www.freewordpressthemes.com
http://www.fresheezy.com
http://www.themes.rock-kitty.net
http://www.themes.iwebnet.org
http://www.wptheme.net
http://www.templatenavigator.com
http://www.themespack.com
http://www.webdevforums.com/
http://www.webdesignerforum.co.uk/
http://www.johntp.com/wp-skins/
http://wordpress.mu/
http://www.templatesforums.com/
http://www.themes-wp.com
http://www.thatsprofound.com
http://wptemplates.org/
http://www.wordpresstheme.in
forums.digitalpoint.com
WebTalkForums.com
TalkFreelance.com
Bloggeries.com/forum

start digg exchange.. stumble exchange
answer yahoo
post on forums who want to find a free wordpress theme that matches your theme

find other countries find their topsites find their forums related to yours

post on webmaster forums and adult webmasters forums blogging forums etc etc
post on warez forums (yaackkk! but it will work)
post on black hat forums (yackkk! but it will work as well)

post on 150+ social bookmark sites.. new hot movie site wordpress theme widget ready download now

dont stop if you stop .. your earning will stop

now even if 100 ppl using your theme out of 26000 webmasters..

this is going to be viral .. there visitors will come to your site and click on your ads.. or you can moneytize using adbrite cpx interactive if you fear adult site traffic is dangarous to you please dont use adsense on the site.. find others

just keep cheacking your visitors backlinks and adsense or advertising income or cpa or affiliate sales

dont stop ever.. if you stop you are dead..

why not find you tube and find make money or webmaster related videos and put comments there..
why not make a hot video about something and upload to 100s of video upload site n attach your site name..

why not put yout site link in ur post.. and use your blogs rss feed and blast it to many rss directory and other autblogs will fetch your content..

now your only question is making exclusive content will cost me money.. and i cant bare the cost of content creation .. good.. then your chances becomes limited.. only way is then make a site with collection of links downloads offers or something you can contribute to communities.. "new updated list of 1000 social bookmark site 2008" and blast ..

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also what worked for me is entertainment industry.. web is a media and think you are producing a film tvshow or something entertaining for a small media (that is web). and i dont work on porn.. why? simple i myself hate porn.. you must do what you like for yourself.. how can you sell/recommend a book that you never read yourself? i love softcore and hollywood bollywood movie porn or images.. but that i also dont like to watch infront of family members and kids.. so i respect family safe entertainment

what about make 10k 20k online niche? i stopped scamming ppls 1 year ago.. since then my income dropped ..but i dont care.. there is no such way to push a button and make 10k 20k online.. scamming noobs is the biggest but safest crime in internet going on.. and top web marketers doing it.. as they know internet is unlimited supply of young and unemployed persons wanting to make a fortune
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oh hell lotta work. is there a way i can earn easy money

yes outsource the work.. give ppl 3cent per post and ask them to promote your site to 1000 places.. indians are available day and night in top webmaster forums..
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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for got to tell about flipping websites

now that you have your own site content traffic and revenue

you can sale the site for $100 to $500 in sitepoint market place and other webmaster forums

this is called flipping website business

got the point

you worked for yourself.. you have build a brand name and a solution

and you are selling a product .. and not as a affiliate.. all money directly to your bank or paypal
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