Mainstream vs adult

_LB_ · 05-24-2006, 06:34 PM

We have fiddled with mainstream for the last couple of years, but really in no big way .. except for earlier this year where we really started to devote a significant amount of time to our mainstream projects.

The thing I can't believe is how EASY it is to make some income, but how much more stable it is. You can rely on traffic, you can rely on ctr, there are no huge jumps and dives in sales that we see in adult. We still make significantly more in adult, but mainstream has been growing steadily.

Since our business doesn't revolve around tgp and freesites and submitting etc, we have found its just as easy to get traffic ... if not easier in some regards. Also there is a level of professionalism in mainstream I find refreshing.

How have your experiences been compared to adult ?

thomasbyers · 05-24-2006, 06:50 PM

LB I am also doing well in Mainstream and as you said I find it pleasantly refreshing compared to Adult. I will never give up on Adult but I tell you and everyone that your exactly right about the traffic and how stable it is. I am working on seasonal sites now for the coming fall and winter and like you said I know when I get ready I can easily get traffic to my sites and fully expect to do well with them. I have also moved into EBay and plan a huge push in that direction also. With dropshipping anyone can sell well on EBay as long as you pay careful attention to your costs. I have only been doing the Ebay thing for a short time but I really like it and I like the profits. And no stress.

vysniukas · 05-24-2006, 06:50 PM

I started web bussiness 2 months ago, i am doing two pararel projects : adult nd mainstream, by far, only adult is giving me some returns. Maybe it takes a much more time to get some traffic in mainstream.

_LB_ · 05-24-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vysniukas

I started web bussiness 2 months ago, i am doing two pararel projects : adult nd mainstream, by far, only adult is giving me some returns. Maybe it takes a much more time to get some traffic in mainstream.

Adult really spoils those new to the business, in that you can get everything you need and start getting traffic straight away. However once you learn about generating traffic, seo, site design, basic sales etc you will find that you can relate that to any area be it mainstream or adult.

_LB_ · 05-24-2006, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasbyers

LB I am also doing well in Mainstream and as you said I find it pleasantly refreshing compared to Adult. I will never give up on Adult but I tell you and everyone that your exactly right about the traffic and how stable it is. I am working on seasonal sites now for the coming fall and winter and like you said I know when I get ready I can easily get traffic to my sites and fully expect to do well with them. I have also moved into EBay and plan a huge push in that direction also. With dropshipping anyone can sell well on EBay as long as you pay careful attention to your costs. I have only been doing the Ebay thing for a short time but I really like it and I like the profits. And no stress.

Never really touched the ebay thing.

Its something I would like to do oneday when I have spare time, but not sure I have what it takes to buy and sell stuff on an auction site

vysniukas · 05-24-2006, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasbyers

LB I am also doing well in Mainstream and as you said I find it pleasantly refreshing compared to Adult. I will never give up on Adult but I tell you and everyone that your exactly right about the traffic and how stable it is. I am working on seasonal sites now for the coming fall and winter and like you said I know when I get ready I can easily get traffic to my sites and fully expect to do well with them. I have also moved into EBay and plan a huge push in that direction also. With dropshipping anyone can sell well on EBay as long as you pay careful attention to your costs. I have only been doing the Ebay thing for a short time but I really like it and I like the profits. And no stress.

maybe we can expect thread about ebay bussiness?
dropshippping - is it when you resell stuff?

thomasbyers · 05-24-2006, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vysniukas

maybe we can expect thread about ebay bussiness?
dropshippping - is it when you resell stuff?

Sure when I get time I will do one on Ebay. Dropshipping is where you put items for sale on ebay and when they sell the company that is selling them to you does the shipping. You want to look for and research out reliable drop shippers. They are some bad ones out there and you want to avoid them. Bottomline if they ask you for a fee up front to sell their stuff RUN , Close Browser Window.

Hentaikid · 05-24-2006, 07:30 PM

Interesting. I bought a dozen domains about six months ago, built a few sites, but then got distracted by other things. I still peck at them occasionally though, and I should dedicate more time to them. Google ads was dissapointing though...

fivestar · 05-24-2006, 07:51 PM

i used to be full time with ebay, profits are not bad. I have a good dropshipper. I got tired of the ebay eating off my profits so i stopped. Its true that you need to watch the costs. I think ebay is more like a casino. Sometimes you sell great with unexpected things and what you think will sell doesnt sell. I got tired of the guessing game. I wont recommend ebay unless you have a hot product or a scheme to bring money from products and another site.
Having mainstream websites are great. I exchange links easily. Adult annoys me because of the stupid cheaters that turn good webmasters into monsters. And when that happens, it gets really hard to list my sites. I have to read rules like i am back in college. Anyways, business wise both are great. I wont favor one over another.

Beejeebers · 05-24-2006, 08:16 PM

Mainstream is a wonderful place to be. An adult surfer is usually trying to find FREE things, if they can't find enough FREE stuff, then they sign up. In mainstream, the surfer is SEEKING OUT and EXPECTING to pay for something. It's nice when you happen to have the thing they want/need.

Being successful on the internet boils down to one thing, FILL A NEED. Now the need must be able to filled easier on the net then in normal shopping or inquiring.

I make my living in mainstream and lately cannot be bothered much with adult as it is too much work for far less reward then mainstream. I'm not lazy, but there are only so many hours in a day and if you could spend your time doing project X that pays $1,000 per day or project Y that pays may $100 per day, which one would you do?

Carrie · 05-24-2006, 08:30 PM

Kinda obvious, but bears saying... if you're working from home and have kids, it's much nicer and easier to be doing mainstream where they can see what you're doing (or even watch and/or help!) without you having to rush to minimize the browser.

I've done a little ebaying here and there; always stuff that I made myself in polymer clay or digital things (ebooks and web hosting) or just stuff I had laying around the house. Drop-shipping always interested me, but I don't see how folks are doing it without setting reserve prices or setting their starting price high enough to cover the cost from the drop-shipper. I've seen folks set their starting price at 99 cents and I know for sure they're drop-shipping it, but I don't know how they're so secure that the auction is going to cover the cost and give them a profit that they're able to start it that low.

fresh · 05-24-2006, 08:51 PM

some of them are shill bidding, some include huge postage or insurance, and some mainstream things just have their price, and will be sold for profit

When yall talk mainstream you talk about adsense and stuff like that or ringtones or what else? Whats good for start?

AbsolutePorn · 05-24-2006, 09:19 PM

I have been in adult for a year now, started Mainstream 1month ago... not starting as I expected, but, it takes some time to get good mainstream traffic, I guess I must be patient.

fresh · 05-24-2006, 11:08 PM

anyone want to show their mainstream sites?

Baldbastard · 05-24-2006, 11:57 PM

shutup :P

fivestar · 05-25-2006, 12:45 AM

i would do both

Nymph · 05-25-2006, 07:09 AM

I started in adult in 1997, bought my first mainstream domain in 2000. I found adult was easier to build, and mainstream more challenging. I enjoy doing the mainstream a whole lot better though. It makes me think, it's relaxing, and gives me more of a sense of accomplishment.

Over the years, I have added more mainstream domains, and have ended up closing down some of the adult ones. I still will keep my foot in the door of adult...the only ones I have at this point are my traffic sites.

I plan on building the mainstream side more as time goes on, as a matter of fact, this fall I will be switching two of my older adult ones over to mainstream (those domain names will allow it).

Hentaikid · 05-25-2006, 09:38 AM

So does anyone pump adult traffic into mainstream? It seems to me that adult is easier to make traffic in, so it would make sense

I don't mean drop TGP surfers onto your mainstream pages, obviously....

Kamilla · 05-25-2006, 09:46 AM

I haven't found mainstream to be easier, nor more professional. Same old cheats on new pages

I caught and exposed **********.com for major cheating. In their source code they had a script that would change the aff id to theirs if the click came from an SE - stealing their affiliates hard SEO work. They didn't fix it, they just change their page and now has hidden their source from viewing, which means the cheating codes are still there! (Or why hide the source code??)

I sat up a couple of portals with toplists and I see the same cheats on those lists as I do on my adult.

Just my 2 cheats errr I mean cents lol

Baldbastard · 05-25-2006, 09:49 AM

If you send your adult traffic to a niche they dont want your conversions will go out the window, if you send adult to mainstream
you will make nothing, get your account banned, fuck over any domains your linking to

the only people I have seen send adult to mainstream are those that don't make any money.

Targeted traffic to a targeted sponsor

05-24-2006, 06:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
_LB_ Pornography Engineer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,925 Points: 42	Mainstream vs adult We have fiddled with mainstream for the last couple of years, but really in no big way .. except for earlier this year where we really started to devote a significant amount of time to our mainstream projects. The thing I can't believe is how EASY it is to make some income, but how much more stable it is. You can rely on traffic, you can rely on ctr, there are no huge jumps and dives in sales that we see in adult. We still make significantly more in adult, but mainstream has been growing steadily. Since our business doesn't revolve around tgp and freesites and submitting etc, we have found its just as easy to get traffic ... if not easier in some regards. Also there is a level of professionalism in mainstream I find refreshing. How have your experiences been compared to adult ? __________________ New Unsaturated Niche Sites! Make The Most Of Your Traffic!

05-24-2006, 06:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
vysniukas you can call me "Niuk" Join Date: May 2006 Location: EU Posts: 294 Points: 0	I started web bussiness 2 months ago, i am doing two pararel projects : adult nd mainstream, by far, only adult is giving me some returns. Maybe it takes a much more time to get some traffic in mainstream. __________________ My best sponc: Sappiccash Jei tu lietuvis - parasyk i privata

05-24-2006, 07:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
fivestar $$$$$ making 5star General Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 215 Points: 970	i used to be full time with ebay, profits are not bad. I have a good dropshipper. I got tired of the ebay eating off my profits so i stopped. Its true that you need to watch the costs. I think ebay is more like a casino. Sometimes you sell great with unexpected things and what you think will sell doesnt sell. I got tired of the guessing game. I wont recommend ebay unless you have a hot product or a scheme to bring money from products and another site. Having mainstream websites are great. I exchange links easily. Adult annoys me because of the stupid cheaters that turn good webmasters into monsters. And when that happens, it gets really hard to list my sites. I have to read rules like i am back in college. Anyways, business wise both are great. I wont favor one over another. __________________

05-24-2006, 08:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Beejeebers the only prescription is...more cowbell Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,666 Points: 100	Mainstream is a wonderful place to be. An adult surfer is usually trying to find FREE things, if they can't find enough FREE stuff, then they sign up. In mainstream, the surfer is SEEKING OUT and EXPECTING to pay for something. It's nice when you happen to have the thing they want/need. Being successful on the internet boils down to one thing, FILL A NEED. Now the need must be able to filled easier on the net then in normal shopping or inquiring. I make my living in mainstream and lately cannot be bothered much with adult as it is too much work for far less reward then mainstream. I'm not lazy, but there are only so many hours in a day and if you could spend your time doing project X that pays $1,000 per day or project Y that pays may $100 per day, which one would you do? __________________ PPC-Coach.com

05-24-2006, 08:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Carrie I have defied gods and demons... Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 2,553 Points: 0	Kinda obvious, but bears saying... if you're working from home and have kids, it's much nicer and easier to be doing mainstream where they can see what you're doing (or even watch and/or help!) without you having to rush to minimize the browser. I've done a little ebaying here and there; always stuff that I made myself in polymer clay or digital things (ebooks and web hosting) or just stuff I had laying around the house. Drop-shipping always interested me, but I don't see how folks are doing it without setting reserve prices or setting their starting price high enough to cover the cost from the drop-shipper. I've seen folks set their starting price at 99 cents and I know for sure they're drop-shipping it, but I don't know how they're so secure that the auction is going to cover the cost and give them a profit that they're able to start it that low. __________________ Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes. --jayeff

05-24-2006, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
thomasbyers If You Build It They Will Come Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Key West Posts: 5,057 Points: 55	LB I am also doing well in Mainstream and as you said I find it pleasantly refreshing compared to Adult. I will never give up on Adult but I tell you and everyone that your exactly right about the traffic and how stable it is. I am working on seasonal sites now for the coming fall and winter and like you said I know when I get ready I can easily get traffic to my sites and fully expect to do well with them. I have also moved into EBay and plan a huge push in that direction also. With dropshipping anyone can sell well on EBay as long as you pay careful attention to your costs. I have only been doing the Ebay thing for a short time but I really like it and I like the profits. And no stress.

05-24-2006, 07:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hentaikid Yep, I made this animation myself Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,462 Points: 75	Interesting. I bought a dozen domains about six months ago, built a few sites, but then got distracted by other things. I still peck at them occasionally though, and I should dedicate more time to them. Google ads was dissapointing though...

05-24-2006, 08:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
fresh so fresh and so clean Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I like You. See Sig Posts: 15,834 Points: 40	some of them are shill bidding, some include huge postage or insurance, and some mainstream things just have their price, and will be sold for profit When yall talk mainstream you talk about adsense and stuff like that or ringtones or what else? Whats good for start? __________________ Adult Hosting - decent quality + good price 35$ per signup + Dating 1.25$-5.00$ per email = $$$

05-24-2006, 09:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
AbsolutePorn www.TripleX-Studios.com Join Date: May 2005 Location: SEO and Plugins Install on BLOGS - 8$ Posts: 16,669 Points: 3,160	I have been in adult for a year now, started Mainstream 1month ago... not starting as I expected, but, it takes some time to get good mainstream traffic, I guess I must be patient. __________________ Got Shemale Blogs? Free Traffic For You. [Shemale & BBW Hardlinks]

05-24-2006, 11:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
fresh so fresh and so clean Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: I like You. See Sig Posts: 15,834 Points: 40	anyone want to show their mainstream sites? __________________ Adult Hosting - decent quality + good price 35$ per signup + Dating 1.25$-5.00$ per email = $$$

05-24-2006, 11:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Baldbastard -------------------------- Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,171 Points: 235	shutup :P

05-25-2006, 12:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
fivestar $$$$$ making 5star General Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 215 Points: 970	i would do both __________________

05-25-2006, 07:09 AM	#17 (permalink)
Nymph I am Sleazybears Sex Slave Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 48 Points: 240	I started in adult in 1997, bought my first mainstream domain in 2000. I found adult was easier to build, and mainstream more challenging. I enjoy doing the mainstream a whole lot better though. It makes me think, it's relaxing, and gives me more of a sense of accomplishment. Over the years, I have added more mainstream domains, and have ended up closing down some of the adult ones. I still will keep my foot in the door of adult...the only ones I have at this point are my traffic sites. I plan on building the mainstream side more as time goes on, as a matter of fact, this fall I will be switching two of my older adult ones over to mainstream (those domain names will allow it).

05-25-2006, 09:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
Hentaikid Yep, I made this animation myself Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,462 Points: 75	So does anyone pump adult traffic into mainstream? It seems to me that adult is easier to make traffic in, so it would make sense I don't mean drop TGP surfers onto your mainstream pages, obviously....

05-25-2006, 09:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
Kamilla Swedish Babe YourSearchNow.com Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: YourSearchNow.com -- Advertise 2cent/click -- Posts: 14,036 Points: 50	I haven't found mainstream to be easier, nor more professional. Same old cheats on new pages I caught and exposed **********.com for major cheating. In their source code they had a script that would change the aff id to theirs if the click came from an SE - stealing their affiliates hard SEO work. They didn't fix it, they just change their page and now has hidden their source from viewing, which means the cheating codes are still there! (Or why hide the source code??) I sat up a couple of portals with toplists and I see the same cheats on those lists as I do on my adult. Just my 2 cheats errr I mean cents lol __________________ YourSearchNow.com Advertise 2c/click - netpond points are welcome Trade Blog Links Several Blogs and Blog Toplists in many different niches

05-25-2006, 09:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
Baldbastard -------------------------- Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,171 Points: 235	If you send your adult traffic to a niche they dont want your conversions will go out the window, if you send adult to mainstream you will make nothing, get your account banned, fuck over any domains your linking to the only people I have seen send adult to mainstream are those that don't make any money. Targeted traffic to a targeted sponsor

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