FHG manipulation

[sadiego]

Suppose I am a Femjoy affiliated webmaster, and I receive Femjoy FHGs to promote said website:

if I decide to use Chamaleon TGP submitter to submit the FHG to a list of TGPs which require me to manipulate the FHG (add a recip, duplicate the gallery, etc), will that mess up the FHG's URL in a way that I will not be credited by Femjoy if a surfer signs up for a Femjoy membership through the gallery i just submitted?

I wish to know if using the tgp submitter will bar me from making the money I'm supposed to make with the FHG, for example: by messing my affiliate code, by changing the URL, etc.

[Panky]

Originally Posted by sadiego

Suppose I am a Femjoy affiliated webmaster, and I receive Femjoy FHGs to promote said website:

if I decide to use Chamaleon TGP submitter to submit the FHG to a list of TGPs which require me to manipulate the FHG (add a recip, duplicate the gallery, etc), will that mess up the FHG's URL in a way that I will not be credited by Femjoy if a surfer signs up for a Femjoy membership through the gallery i just submitted?

I wish to know if using the tgp submitter will bar me from making the money I'm supposed to make with the FHG, for example: by messing my affiliate code, by changing the URL, etc.

DO NOT SUBMIT FHGs or modified FHGs to TGP sites! FHGs are not meant to be used for submitting to TGP sites. They are designed to be used on your own sites. Why would a TGP or MGP owner list your ripped FHGs, when they could just grab it from the affiliate area and list it themselves with their own linking code embedded in it? TGP & MGP owners are affiliates too and they have seen the exact same gallery over and over again that you are submitting to them.

If you want to get listed on TGP & MGP sites, build your own unique galleries or have someone build them for you. You need to submit something that the reviewer hasn't already seen a 100 times that day. You want to build your own identity. Reviewers get to know their regular submitters. You also want to submit a gallery that is unique, that stands out amongst the hundreds of galleries a reviewer can see in a day. There are only so many slots open to list galleries each day, with hundreds of submitters competing for those slots. If you submit modified/ripped FHGs, odds are, you won't get listed.

Take the time out to do things right and build or have someone build galleries. It is well worth the time and money spent.

[friporr]

Hi there.

Actually, when submitting galleries to TGP's you can't use the FHG's the sponsors provide for you. You need to create your own galleries from either the promo content the sponsors provide or your own content.
In you gallery you should use the link codes your sponsor gives you. These link codes conatins tracking information so that you're credited any and all sales that are refered by you.

[sadiego]

Originally Posted by friporr

Hi there.

Actually, when submitting galleries to TGP's you can't use the FHG's the sponsors provide for you. You need to create your own galleries from either the promo content the sponsors provide or your own content.
In you gallery you should use the link codes your sponsor gives you. These link codes conatins tracking information so that you're credited any and all sales that are refered by you.

Thank you both for your quick answer! I have a question Fripporr: Are you telling me it's possible to create your own gallery, using promo content to make(series/assorted pic galleries), and still be able to include your linking code/affiliate id in your newly generated unique gallery, and then submit it to a TGP and get credited when a person signs up? or am i WRONG?

Thank you for your time and I hope the question is clear

[cofla]

Originally Posted by sadiego

Thank you both for your quick answer! I have a question Fripporr: Are you telling me it's possible to create your own gallery, using promo content to make(series/assorted pic galleries), and still be able to include your linking code/affiliate id in your newly generated unique gallery, and then submit it to a TGP and get credited when a person signs up? or am i WRONG?

Thank you for your time and I hope the question is clear

Sure, that's the idea. Take the promo content, build a gallery with links to the site (with your affiliate id) and host it on your server. Make sure you respect the TGP's rules, and submit

[josico]

So let me get this straight, you can't use the provided FHGs, but if you use the provided promotional images (that might be in the FHGs), and make your own gallery, that's OK to submit to the TGPs?

And another newb question, what's the recip? Seen it around, searched and still don't know what it is.

[thebes]

A recip is the reciprical link most tgps want to see on your submitted gallery. Chameleon will automatically insert these for you in MOST cases. With the big guys like Shemp, The Hun AL4A WorldSex, etc... check their rules and submit those few by hand. They don't like you to have crap recips and would rather you have none.

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by josico

but if you use the provided promotional images (that might be in the FHGs), and make your own gallery, that's OK to submit to the TGPs?

Not all sponsors allow this so make sure to read the terms or when it doubt ask first. Sometimes sponsors buy content which they do not have the right to let you use that way. They might have sets you can download and host yourself and others which can only be used in the FHGs. The purpose for the FHG is for site owners who have traffic and do not want to deal with submitters who try to fuck their loyal surfers.

The recip is just a return link for branding purposes or surfers who are not really looking to buy right away. You can most often put 3 recips per page which one of them can and should be your own site. They also help to increase backlinks which can help to boost your positions in the search engines.

[finike]

You need to edit the galleries and you cannot reupload them to your sponsor's server.
We provide a ZIP file of our FHGs so everyone can build their galleries easily.

[josico]

I see, so these recips would include one of my own site and two others be my sponsor sites?

[Panky]

Originally Posted by josico

I see, so these recips would include one of my own site and two others be my sponsor sites?

The only recips on the galleries are of those to the sites you submit to. Do not add a recip back to your own site in the mix. It is not the site owners job to build your site.

[josico]

Ah.... I think I'm starting to understand. A little slow haha...

[sexgenie]

Originally Posted by Panky

DO NOT SUBMIT FHGs or modified FHGs to TGP sites! FHGs are not meant to be used for submitting to TGP sites. They are designed to be used on your own sites. Why would a TGP or MGP owner list your ripped FHGs, when they could just grab it from the affiliate area and list it themselves with their own linking code embedded in it? TGP & MGP owners are affiliates too and they have seen the exact same gallery over and over again that you are submitting to them.

If you want to get listed on TGP & MGP sites, build your own unique galleries or have someone build them for you. You need to submit something that the reviewer hasn't already seen a 100 times that day. You want to build your own identity. Reviewers get to know their regular submitters. You also want to submit a gallery that is unique, that stands out amongst the hundreds of Butgalleries a reviewer can see in a day. There are only so many slots open to list galleries each day, with hundreds of submitters competing for those slots. If you submit modified/ripped FHGs, odds are, you won't get listed.

Take the time out to do things right and build or have someone build galleries. It is well worth the time and money spent.

But I've seen some sponsors with notes on their sites:

"HOSTED GALLERIES
Use our advanced gallery builder to build top converting image and video galleries for our sites. Chose from various languages, domains and submit directly to the biggest TGPs."

So how come they want their hosted galleries to be submitted? I'm confused on this please kindly elaborate...

[Panky]

Originally Posted by sexgenie

But I've seen some sponsors with notes on their sites:

"HOSTED GALLERIES
Use our advanced gallery builder to build top converting image and video galleries for our sites. Chose from various languages, domains and submit directly to the biggest TGPs."

So how come they want their hosted galleries to be submitted? I'm confused on this please kindly elaborate...

Gallery builders are a different tool. They are designed for affiliates to build galleries to list on their own sites. It's a marketing tool sponsors came up with to please affiliates at make it easier to promote their sites. It is not wise to use these to submit directly to TGP sites regardless of what a sponsor states in their affiliate area. TGP & MGP site owners and reviewers absolutely hate this.

If you want to get listed on TGP or MGP sites, build your own unique galleries or have a designer build some for you. Reviewers and site owners have seen the templates used in the "build your own galleries" that sponsors offer hundreds of times over. It is no different than submitting ripped FHGs.

In order to get your gallery listed, you must stand out amongst the hundreds of other galleries a reviewer has already seen that day. You can't do this by using the same gallery builders or ripped FHGs everyone else uses. You want to be unique with your galleries. Stand out from the crowd. Spend the time to learn how to build your own galleries or hire a designer to create them for you. It's time and/or money well spent. If you fail to catch a reviewers eye, you won't get the gallery listed. No listings = no sales.

[sexgenie]

Thank you for clarifying that. Panky would you mind If I show you two of my handmade submitted gallery. I guess I need some insights on why my unique is low compared to my raw hits. I suspect it has something to do with my design or copy placing or - i don't know. Please... hope I'm not asking too much. Will send through email if that's ok with you. Thanks again anyway...

[Varzi Network]

Originally Posted by Panky

Do not add a recip back to your own site in the mix. It is not the site owners job to build your site.

Well since you have no TGPs as you stated on AWI there is no site for "you" adding a recip link back to. If you ran a TGP of your own then adding a link to your site which is in fact no different then selecting some other random site and linking to them. No reason to pass up on perfectly good back links that will enable you to gain a few extra hits and add more authority to your site in the process. The street is two way and so its not my job to add recips and help build their site which makes these links mutually beneficial.

Step back and look at the big picture here.

[Ocelot]

create your own unique galleries in submitting in TGP sites, just use the contents they have in fhg's if you dont have access to theiir members area

[seeandsee]

just use the contents they have in fhg's if you dont have access to theiir members area

And one notice, it's best to ask sponsor can you do that.

[Panky]

Originally Posted by Varzi Network

Well since you have no TGPs as you stated on AWI there is no site for "you" adding a recip link back to. If you ran a TGP of your own then adding a link to your site which is in fact no different then selecting some other random site and linking to them. No reason to pass up on perfectly good back links that will enable you to gain a few extra hits and add more authority to your site in the process. The street is two way and so its not my job to add recips and help build their site which makes these links mutually beneficial.

Step back and look at the big picture here.

Many site owners view it as it is not their job to build your TGP site. For 90% of the sites out there, it won't matter if one includes their own custom recip. For the 10% that it does matter, if your site can't send back the amount of hits they are sending you, it will piss them off. They view it as they are sending traffic to your own TGP site without getting anything or very little in return. Some sites are very particular about which other sites they are grouped with as well. It's always wise to check the site owners recip linking rules. Some of them are very specific about who their site can be grouped with. One way to get noticed in a positive way by a site, is to ask them directly who they would like to be grouped with. If the request is reasonable, honor it.

[Panky]

Originally Posted by sexgenie

Thank you for clarifying that. Panky would you mind If I show you two of my handmade submitted gallery. I guess I need some insights on why my unique is low compared to my raw hits. I suspect it has something to do with my design or copy placing or - i don't know. Please... hope I'm not asking too much. Will send through email if that's ok with you. Thanks again anyway...

Sure. Send me a PM or email and I'll have a look.