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Old 05-08-2008, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation FHG manipulation

Suppose I am a Femjoy affiliated webmaster, and I receive Femjoy FHGs to promote said website:

if I decide to use Chamaleon TGP submitter to submit the FHG to a list of TGPs which require me to manipulate the FHG (add a recip, duplicate the gallery, etc), will that mess up the FHG's URL in a way that I will not be credited by Femjoy if a surfer signs up for a Femjoy membership through the gallery i just submitted?

I wish to know if using the tgp submitter will bar me from making the money I'm supposed to make with the FHG, for example: by messing my affiliate code, by changing the URL, etc.
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Suppose I am a Femjoy affiliated webmaster, and I receive Femjoy FHGs to promote said website:

if I decide to use Chamaleon TGP submitter to submit the FHG to a list of TGPs which require me to manipulate the FHG (add a recip, duplicate the gallery, etc), will that mess up the FHG's URL in a way that I will not be credited by Femjoy if a surfer signs up for a Femjoy membership through the gallery i just submitted?

I wish to know if using the tgp submitter will bar me from making the money I'm supposed to make with the FHG, for example: by messing my affiliate code, by changing the URL, etc.

DO NOT SUBMIT FHGs or modified FHGs to TGP sites! FHGs are not meant to be used for submitting to TGP sites. They are designed to be used on your own sites. Why would a TGP or MGP owner list your ripped FHGs, when they could just grab it from the affiliate area and list it themselves with their own linking code embedded in it? TGP & MGP owners are affiliates too and they have seen the exact same gallery over and over again that you are submitting to them.

If you want to get listed on TGP & MGP sites, build your own unique galleries or have someone build them for you. You need to submit something that the reviewer hasn't already seen a 100 times that day. You want to build your own identity. Reviewers get to know their regular submitters. You also want to submit a gallery that is unique, that stands out amongst the hundreds of galleries a reviewer can see in a day. There are only so many slots open to list galleries each day, with hundreds of submitters competing for those slots. If you submit modified/ripped FHGs, odds are, you won't get listed.

Take the time out to do things right and build or have someone build galleries. It is well worth the time and money spent.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi there.

Actually, when submitting galleries to TGP's you can't use the FHG's the sponsors provide for you. You need to create your own galleries from either the promo content the sponsors provide or your own content.
In you gallery you should use the link codes your sponsor gives you. These link codes conatins tracking information so that you're credited any and all sales that are refered by you.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi there.

Actually, when submitting galleries to TGP's you can't use the FHG's the sponsors provide for you. You need to create your own galleries from either the promo content the sponsors provide or your own content.
In you gallery you should use the link codes your sponsor gives you. These link codes conatins tracking information so that you're credited any and all sales that are refered by you.
Thank you both for your quick answer! I have a question Fripporr: Are you telling me it's possible to create your own gallery, using promo content to make(series/assorted pic galleries), and still be able to include your linking code/affiliate id in your newly generated unique gallery, and then submit it to a TGP and get credited when a person signs up? or am i WRONG?

Thank you for your time and I hope the question is clear
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you both for your quick answer! I have a question Fripporr: Are you telling me it's possible to create your own gallery, using promo content to make(series/assorted pic galleries), and still be able to include your linking code/affiliate id in your newly generated unique gallery, and then submit it to a TGP and get credited when a person signs up? or am i WRONG?

Thank you for your time and I hope the question is clear
Sure, that's the idea. Take the promo content, build a gallery with links to the site (with your affiliate id) and host it on your server. Make sure you respect the TGP's rules, and submit
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So let me get this straight, you can't use the provided FHGs, but if you use the provided promotional images (that might be in the FHGs), and make your own gallery, that's OK to submit to the TGPs?

And another newb question, what's the recip? Seen it around, searched and still don't know what it is.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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A recip is the reciprical link most tgps want to see on your submitted gallery. Chameleon will automatically insert these for you in MOST cases. With the big guys like Shemp, The Hun AL4A WorldSex, etc... check their rules and submit those few by hand. They don't like you to have crap recips and would rather you have none.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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but if you use the provided promotional images (that might be in the FHGs), and make your own gallery, that's OK to submit to the TGPs?
Not all sponsors allow this so make sure to read the terms or when it doubt ask first. Sometimes sponsors buy content which they do not have the right to let you use that way. They might have sets you can download and host yourself and others which can only be used in the FHGs. The purpose for the FHG is for site owners who have traffic and do not want to deal with submitters who try to fuck their loyal surfers.

The recip is just a return link for branding purposes or surfers who are not really looking to buy right away. You can most often put 3 recips per page which one of them can and should be your own site. They also help to increase backlinks which can help to boost your positions in the search engines.
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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You need to edit the galleries and you cannot reupload them to your sponsor's server.
We provide a ZIP file of our FHGs so everyone can build their galleries easily.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I see, so these recips would include one of my own site and two others be my sponsor sites?
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I see, so these recips would include one of my own site and two others be my sponsor sites?
The only recips on the galleries are of those to the sites you submit to. Do not add a recip back to your own site in the mix. It is not the site owners job to build your site.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ah.... I think I'm starting to understand. A little slow haha...
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Old Yesterday, 11:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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DO NOT SUBMIT FHGs or modified FHGs to TGP sites! FHGs are not meant to be used for submitting to TGP sites. They are designed to be used on your own sites. Why would a TGP or MGP owner list your ripped FHGs, when they could just grab it from the affiliate area and list it themselves with their own linking code embedded in it? TGP & MGP owners are affiliates too and they have seen the exact same gallery over and over again that you are submitting to them.

If you want to get listed on TGP & MGP sites, build your own unique galleries or have someone build them for you. You need to submit something that the reviewer hasn't already seen a 100 times that day. You want to build your own identity. Reviewers get to know their regular submitters. You also want to submit a gallery that is unique, that stands out amongst the hundreds of Butgalleries a reviewer can see in a day. There are only so many slots open to list galleries each day, with hundreds of submitters competing for those slots. If you submit modified/ripped FHGs, odds are, you won't get listed.

Take the time out to do things right and build or have someone build galleries. It is well worth the time and money spent.
But I've seen some sponsors with notes on their sites:

"HOSTED GALLERIES
Use our advanced gallery builder to build top converting image and video galleries for our sites. Chose from various languages, domains and submit directly to the biggest TGPs."

So how come they want their hosted galleries to be submitted? I'm confused on this please kindly elaborate...
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Old Today, 01:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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But I've seen some sponsors with notes on their sites:

"HOSTED GALLERIES
Use our advanced gallery builder to build top converting image and video galleries for our sites. Chose from various languages, domains and submit directly to the biggest TGPs."

So how come they want their hosted galleries to be submitted? I'm confused on this please kindly elaborate...
Gallery builders are a different tool. They are designed for affiliates to build galleries to list on their own sites. It's a marketing tool sponsors came up with to please affiliates at make it easier to promote their sites. It is not wise to use these to submit directly to TGP sites regardless of what a sponsor states in their affiliate area. TGP & MGP site owners and reviewers absolutely hate this.

If you want to get listed on TGP or MGP sites, build your own unique galleries or have a designer build some for you. Reviewers and site owners have seen the templates used in the "build your own galleries" that sponsors offer hundreds of times over. It is no different than submitting ripped FHGs.

In order to get your gallery listed, you must stand out amongst the hundreds of other galleries a reviewer has already seen that day. You can't do this by using the same gallery builders or ripped FHGs everyone else uses. You want to be unique with your galleries. Stand out from the crowd. Spend the time to learn how to build your own galleries or hire a designer to create them for you. It's time and/or money well spent. If you fail to catch a reviewers eye, you won't get the gallery listed. No listings = no sales.
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Old Today, 02:22 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Thank you for clarifying that. Panky would you mind If I show you two of my handmade submitted gallery. I guess I need some insights on why my unique is low compared to my raw hits. I suspect it has something to do with my design or copy placing or - i don't know. Please... hope I'm not asking too much. Will send through email if that's ok with you. Thanks again anyway...
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