SleazyBear Folder

[SleazyBear]

First off who the hell is sb anyway. I am an old dog, been around netpond sence it was known as condom project, I learned here I networked here.. This is my home, I dont venture out much, and I go the extra mile for newbies. If you live in the states, and you need a question answerd one on one, shoot me a pm with your phone number on it, I will give you a call on my dime. I like to see webmasters make money, you make money, sponcers make money, netpond makes money, netpond makes money, my bosses are happy I call this thread sleazybears folder, There is a webmaster called cyberwench, you may know her as wenchy, back in the day of yor I would post on condom projects board all kinds of thoughts, idea's tricks and tips, and she would always post, another one for my sb folder.

[SleazyBear]

As you can see I did this thread 5 years ago, the information is now so out dated that I need to revamp it, It is one of the most read threads on netpond. It has helped thousands of webmasters get a grip and to understand how to get started.

[SleazyBear]

I am always contactable, I love helping newbies or other webmasters because its what I enjoy doing, if you don't enjoy what you doing, stop doing it and do something else, life is to short to hate what your doing.. The best way to contact me is thru pm here on netpond, I dont use icq that much, unless I need to contact someone I don't even turn it on. I do have skype its on another machine, I don't hear that machine because I don't have my sound on a lot of times.. But don't put me on a Pedestal, I have helped thousands of webmasters, I can't help you if you don't contact me. Don't ever feel your bothering me, if it wasn't for talking to webmasters I would be bored off my butt. So if you have questions ask them. I will tell you what I know on any subject I know about, if I don't know then I will tell you I don't know.

[SleazyBear]

I say this because it has happend many times over the years, A newbie will contact me and say something like, I need to make money pretty quick, I want to start I am in a hurry. What I tell them may seem harsh, but its honest.. If your here to make money quick, stop turn off your computer and go put in an application at Mc Donalds. This is not a get rich quick business. On the avg it takes a newbie to start making sales around three to six months, some quicker some longer. Some get lucky, I know of one newbie since the year 2000 that made $1,500 out of the box his first month. He quit the biz, said " it was to much work" Yes this does take a lot of work. Just know that now before you even start. I am not trying to say don't start, I am saying it takes a commitment to be an adult webmaster. It can be long boring work. It can be very rewarding, but your not going to get rich over night.

[SleazyBear]

First thing you need to do before you do anything at all is contact a lawyer where you live, there are many different laws, some by country, some even so small as by city. No one on netpond is certfied to give you legal advice. You can ask if you wish, but be reminded we are not lawyers no do we play one on tv. If you get in a bind with your laws, there is not one of us that can stand up next to you and tell the judge we are a lawyer. I can tell you right now, judges don't go for well so and so said so on netpond. It won't mean a hill of beans to the judge. Believe it or not but some countries producing adult images or putting adult images on the net is punishable by death.


If you live in the usa, the best lawyer that has helped webmasters here at netpond is Eric Berstien, he has given his time many of times on The Netpond Show. He isn't free nor is he cheap but he does know internet law better than anyone one else. You can find him at New Jersey Law Firm - Eric M. Bernstein & Associates LLC: Employment, Labor, Government, Municipal, Education, Land Use, Environmental, Election, Internet

[SleazyBear]

You will find that adult webmasters seem to have there own language sometimes, If I say like tgp, mpg you have no idea what I am talking about Believe it or not there is a site that will give you a glossary of the terms used. Kind of handy. adult webmaster glossary/

[SleazyBear]

Where to start, Lets start with what are you going to use for hosting, got to have a place for your art, yes building a site, page, is an art. You are an artist in your field.

Free hosting. Unless it is for a blog, or sponsor provided free hosting. Forget it. Your going to get ripped in some way or another. With domains being so cheap and hosting even cheaper if your going to do tgp galleries or free sites, don't even go the free hosting route.

With blogs you can go with like thumblogger or xlogz


Cheap hosting: I have seen hosting go as cheap as $6.99 a month for a gadzillion gigs of bandwidth, and a assload of server space. I won't mention any hosting names here. But this is what happens. You pay for a year up front it sounds like an awesome deal. You think you could never burn all the bandwidth they offer in a month. You can't because this is how they burn you. You have a few sites that start burning bandwidth, your useing server resources. You will one day find your sites either gone or you will get an email. What you have been busted for is useing to many server resources. In there terms of service (tos) is something about server resource usage. You contact them and they will upsell you to another plan. This works for maybe a few months, then it all comes back again. Your screwed. They will either completly remove your sites, and you my friend are flat ass dead in the water. You may get lucky and they might let you backup your sites, or they are just gone.. Poof.

What are you to do? The best hosting is cyberwurx They host netpond and have for a long time. They do have beginner plans. The trick with them is watch your bandwidth if you see your going to go over your plan, call them or email them and up your plan before you go over and you won't pay an overage fee.

Once you start getting to a point where your seem to spending a over $200 a month on hosting, its time to think about your own box.

[SleazyBear]

Domains: Domains today are cheap when I started out domains where $100 per year. I use 1and1 they are only $6.99 per year. I have heard some bad things about there hosting, so I wouldn't go that route, but as domain names, they have never done me wrong and I have around 300 domains with them and have been with them for about 5 years at the time of this writting.

To pick your domain try to keep it short, and try to keep it simple. If a surfer can remember your domain name thats half the battle. Don't use terms that a non adult would think would be a site for a non adult. Watch your trademarks. A domain name that is named after a product is a complete no no. Terms like for dummies or r-us will get you in a bind, they are part of a trademarked name.
Try to stay with a .com the reason is .com is the top of the crop for domains. Everyone knows of a .com. Not many know of a .ws or .biz.

When working with search engines here is a little trick I have used over the years. Add the, e, i, or you can use numbers like 1 thru 9. I have found some really short domains 4 letters by useing numbers. No your not going to find 8porn.com but 99pornagraphic has a better shot.

Dashes this has been debated over the years, to dash or no dash that is the question, for search engine the dash doesn't seem to matter, to a surfer it can. If your trying to build traffic as long as its short and easy to remember your pretty much ok..

Footnote: If your in this biz any for any time at all your going to find you buy domains and they sit, blank or empty. I have taken the time to make an index page that you can throw up on your server as an index page. So that it not blank and not making you money. Once you change my affiliate code to yours you can use the page over and over. You can find it here.

[SleazyBear]

What to build:
Free sites, blogs, thumb nail gallery post (tgp), movie gallery post (mgp)link lists, tgp galleries, tube sites, pic post, top list and link dumps.

A tube site is where surfers post or you put up video that is in a flv codec. They are really popular, there is only one little problem. There is not one tube site that is in the black they are all in the red. None of them are paying there own way. Even youtube at the time of this writting is not in the black. They are all taking a loss.

A link list is just what it sounds like it is a site that is nothing more than list of links to free sites. It does make money over time, but its not the best starter. The reason being is your linking to porn and the surfer is just hitting your site and your sending them off to somewhere else.

Tpg or thumb nail gallery post. Almost the same thing as a link list only your linking to thumb nail galleries. It the same as link list is harder to make money with because your sending your traffic somewhere else.

Movie gallery post (mgp) is the same as a tgp only it links to movies galleries

There is a little kicker to link list and tgp, mgp, if your site gets really popular you can charge webmasters to link to there sites, but this isn't going to happen over night, and I wouldn't suggest it as a starter.

Free sites. A free site is a site that has an index page a gallery selection page and two or three content pages. With free sites you are bound to the rules of the link lists. Yes they have rules, follow them. If you don't follow them, you get banned, you get banned your kind of screwed for traffic from them.

Tgp gallery or thumb nail gallery These are the simplest to build its basicly 20 to 30 thumbnails leading to pictures that are not in html. It has to link like 1.jpg it can not link to 1.html you won't get listed if there in html and you will get banned. Surfers that come to your gallery are harder to sell. To give you an example I built a gallery one time just to test how much bandwidth I could burn in two days. I got a listing on the hun with eight 1.5meg movies. I burned 215 gigs of bandwidth in two days. The only sales material was at the bottom one itty bitty text link. No i didn't make any sales, but it sure put my server to the test and gave my server admin a heart attack.

Pic posts these type of sites was the beginning of tgp, Its basis was one click one pic. A pic post has a script where a webmaster put in a link to a picture and a banner in the webmaster area it then creates a link in a list, the script then creates an html page and the image and the banner is pulled off the submitting webmasters server and shown on a page of the pic post. Its kind of like letting a site hotlink an image, but they also hotlink the banner. They are not the hottest thing going, they are kind of a dieing type of site. Not many webmasters do them anymore, but they are still worth your while as a webmaster to submit to, or have one in your portfolio, but not the best thing in the world to start with as a newbie.

Top list is a site where you send a site traffic it sends you back traffic. But the list is regulated by how much traffic you send, send one surfer you will find yourself at the bottom of the list. Send more surfers than anyone one else and your at the top of the list, normally the top 10 senders instead of just a plain text link will get a banner spot at the top. These are also kind of old school and not exactly for a newbie. One other not when you send traffic to a top list you send it the same window its just a straight link, when a top list sends you traffic by opening your site in a new window. Top lists are for tgp's, link lists, there not used with tgp galleries, and some link lists do not like to see links to them on free sites.

Link dump. Link dumps are done a couple of ways. Its basicly just a site/page where you just submit a link to your site, some require a recip link some don't. You enter your url into form field hit submit and your site is listed on a page with other links. Some are just a straight list, others are done more like a cascading message board and when you fill in the form you give more detail about your site. Some link dumps are automatic, where you listed automaticly, other are set up where the webmaster approves your link.

[SleazyBear]

How to pick a sponsor:
First off picking a sponsor is easy, you click on a link poof they have some fancy site that explains it all to you and you fill in the form fields and poof your an affiliate. Now comes the hard part, there is a trust issue, how are they not going to screw you. If you got the link from a spam email, just delete the email and move on. No reputable sponsor spams. If you get a spam email from a sponsor and it has an affiliate code, it prob wasn't the sponsor that sent it, but some jerkwad spamming his affiliate code.

The best place to find sponsors is at the bottom of this page, not because they just advertise here, but they have paid a pretty good junk of change to be on this site, and they are very public about there program. They are not going to screw you over.

Your going to find that you will do better with some sponsor than with others, its a fact that one webmaster can sell one sponsor and make a chunk of change where you may use the same sponsor and not make squat. There are many factors and it is not the sponsor. Where your traffic comes from, what type of site your sending the traffic from. Its kind of hit or miss. Posting I sent this sponsor 100,000 hits and didn't make jack will only get you reply's with I use that some sponsor and I am makeing oodles of money from them.

If you send a sponsor 10,000 to 30,000 hits and make nothing, its time to change sponsors, because that sponsor and you are just not working with each other. Its kind of trail and error. Your going to find its just part of the adult business.

Every large sponsor has a sales rep, they are there for you, feel free to contact them and have them look at what your building, they are more than happy to help you sell there sites, thats what they are paid for. No they don't know as much as me, but they do have a handle on how to sell there sites. If they did know as much as me they wouldn't be a rep, they would be sitting at home in there underware writting this post.. LOL.. You can laugh now it was only a joke..

[SleazyBear]

Sales text and Banners the holy grail of your existence. There are some people in this world that can sell heaters in hell and ice to eskamo's. _LB_, Rvince, Myself and others have this ability. It's not something that comes natural you have to learn it. I could sit here and write your sales text and it not sell for you. It has to come from within you. You have to know what your selling. Sex sells but its not easy to sell sex. Sounds strange but it is very true.
You have to give the surfer a reason to click on that link, it has to be suggestive, it has to be informitive, and it has to sound like it's the only place in the world they can get it, and you have to make them curious, not the easyest thing to do in 2 to 3 sentences.
My all time favorite example which now would get me nailed for trademark but it shows you what you need to do. Click here to see 3 girls 2 guys and an echasketch.
I gave them 3 girls and 2 guys, everyone pretty much knows that gig, but what the hell can they do with an echasketch? curiousity killed the cat on that one..
Is it a lie, well yes, should you lie to surfers no, but a little fib isn't going to hurt. Remember its part of your job to get the surfer to the sponsor. Now if you say that the sponsor is free and they are charging 39.95 a month, or that today only they are giving away a free pizza to everyone that joins, your kinda screwed.

Banner are a waste of space, unless you add sales text under them, surfers get trained to miss banners on a page, they dont even see them. Then there is are these nice little programs that identify banners and affiliate code and they don't even show the banner..
So golden rule here is dont use a banner by itself.

[SleazyBear]

Sales text and Banners the holy grail of your existence part II
Don't use things like click here to join, or join today for 29.95. You want to stay away from words like join, tour, charge amount. For free sites and tgp galleries, you cant use click here for more, or being real abscure either.
You can use something like My friend johnny is the jackoff king of the world he goes at it 20 times a day, his favorite site is ....com if your like johnny and want to get off easy and quick click here..

The surfer is thinking holy shit johnny has a jack off problem, but if this is his favorite site and he likes to get off easy and quick well shit I need to check this one out..
I could go on and on with text links page after page, but your going to get confused at some point.. just remember its something you have to learn.. it will take you some time..

[SleazyBear]

Banners like I said before banners by themselves are nothing more than wasted space on a page. Sponsor banners are right up there with that one too. Now for a newbie sponsor banners are ok to use but once you really start working its time for you to make something on your own. Sponsor also have designers that are just that designers, they design, they like to make banners that look pretty, they may not sell worth a crap but hey they look pretty and they are large in size.. Some designers, not all, I don't want designers on my ass, but some have no damn clue what sells, they just do the job get paid and they are on to there next job.

Banners can be simple to exotic, its up to you. But remember surfers have to be able to download and see them, there is few ways to do this. One they should be smaller in download size and be able to load on a page quick. One little trick to this, is when you put the banner on the page, put the size in the html, on your other images dont put the size on the image, it will show first, now if the surfer is on high speed it dont make a hill of beans. But size does matter.. in that respect.
Make odd size banners, standard banners are 460x68 make them square, round, anything but that size, make them a gif, make them flash, blink, odd colors, grab the surfers eyes.
One thing to remember with banners and image size is there are still surfers on dailup if they don't see the banner or it loads slow, your not selling to them..

example of image size tag on a link.
img src=\"http://,,,,.com/h02.gif\" width=480 height=80">

non image size tag
img src=\"http://,,,,.com/h02.gif\">

[SleazyBear]

I am going to show you my all time best selling banner, now I want you to know I am not a racist, I am a salesman, when it comes to makeing money, as long as I am not ripping someone off, or doing anything illegal, anything is far game. So don't dog me because I used a racist word. I can walk into any bank that I have an acount at and the bank president knows my name, If useing one word that is a no no causes this, well then so be it.
My all time best selling banner was on an ebony site, it was a white banner with black text it said nigger pussy and it blinked. I use it only as an example that simple banners do sell. You just have to grab the surfer.

[SleazyBear]

Grabbing the surfer part 1
Page color is one of your biggest friends, bad page color is your worst enemy. The brightest thing on your page should be your sales material
I have ran into page after page where a webmaster will take and do a tabled page and put bright pink as one background, light pink as the backgound of the main table, then white as the sales text. I just want to kick there ass.. You have to grab the surfers eyes with your text You can not do this if the text is ligther than the other colors on the page, the eyes ajust to the brightest color of the page, and therefor bright background colors will cause the eyes not to see the lighter sales text.
Make your sales text the brightest thing on the page. !!!

[SleazyBear]

Grabbing the surfer part II

Lets go back a bit to an earlyer post I did this sales text
My friend johnny is the jackoff king of the world he goes at it 20 times a day, his favorite site is ....com if your like johnny and want to get off easy and quick click here

Now lets make this sales text better..
My friend johnny is the jackoff king of the world he goes at it 20 times a day, his favorite site is ....com if your like johnny and want to get off easy and quick click here

take one or two or three words and do a color change. This draws the eyes of the surfer. There eyes will catch the color change just like yours did.

Ok lets do it one better..

My friend johnny is the jackoff king of the world he goes at it 20 times a day, his favorite site is ....com if your like johnny and want to get off easy and

I should of made the word jack off king flash instead of quick click here because its more in the middle of the sentence, but you get the idea. its just a quick and simple gif file. took me all of 5 minutes..

One other note, is always use the words click here, tell your surfers where to click..

[SleazyBear]

Content
Should you buy it, Just starting out, NO.. there is no reason to, most sponsors have some kind of content, that they let you use, the main rule of useing there content, is the page where the content is used you can only use them as a sponsor, this is a very simple rule.


There has been some debate over the years as to use bought content or not, some say when a surfer is at a site where you have bought content, and they click and go to a sponsor then the surfer doesn't get that content. Its just another arguement in the puddle to me, I have used my own, I have used sponsor content, I don't see any difference.