Canon HV-20 Frame Grabs

thebes · 03-31-2008, 07:47 AM

After a great deal of fiddling with our new Canon HV-20 HDV camcorder, I have some nice frame grabs. I hope to use these as stills and would like to hear how people find the quality. This is for a micro niche paysite I am working on. We are filming this all ourselves right now, and my D70s ruins the audio and takes noisy images under the hotlights (so really it ruins the video too with flash). Considering the subject extra shooting is quite literally a real pain.

These were shot with about 1300 watts of softened hot lights with a 0.45x wide angle on the HV20 at 1/48th 1080p24 (must pulldown which is a hassle) f1.8 and roughly 9db of gain. They have been mildly edited to denoise, mostly correct color, adjust levels, etc. I figure I can run a batch or script or something to do this in bulk, most of the settings were nearly the same, except for the cropping.

Fair warning, these pictures are of me being spanked. I know this niche well. For this post I am mostly interested in what people think about the frame grabs usability as stills for a micro niche paysite. The frame grabs are lossless until compressing to jpegs in photoshop. Some of them are out-takes.

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slaxxx · 03-31-2008, 01:54 PM

They seem a little too warm to me...there's a mild peach hue?

thebes · 03-31-2008, 03:59 PM

Hmmm possibly a bit off on the color balance still. I need to get some sort of color correction for my laptop display, I can not find a valid profile for it. The location is inside of an old adobe with sort of buff tan plaster walls.

How is the noise, resolution, sharpness? I know they don't compare with my dslr (with flash), but are they good enough?

slaxxx · 03-31-2008, 06:33 PM

I think they're good enough even as they are now but if you're going to batch a lot of them, you might want to at least do auto-color.

I did auto-color, moved the middle triangle in levels to the left by 1.30, and then did auto contrast. Here's what looks better to me on an example pic (Samsung 225bw on OS X) http://www.slaxxx.com/pl4.jpg

thebes · 03-31-2008, 07:26 PM

Yeah, I definitely need to get some sort of color calibration. On my screen yours look very cool, but then I already know I am having trouble with an appropriate color profile for my display.

It'll be a two to three months before I have the paysite up, but its good to know my display is that far off since I am selling video on clips4sale while we are shooting the content.

slaxxx · 04-01-2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebes

Yeah, I definitely need to get some sort of color calibration. On my screen yours look very cool, but then I already know I am having trouble with an appropriate color profile for my display.

It'll be a two to three months before I have the paysite up, but its good to know my display is that far off since I am selling video on clips4sale while we are shooting the content.

Might want to try Clips.com as well...owned by the hotmovies people

03-31-2008, 07:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
thebes Getting back into the biz Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the Belly of the Beast Posts: 2,106 Points: 2,205	Canon HV-20 Frame Grabs After a great deal of fiddling with our new Canon HV-20 HDV camcorder, I have some nice frame grabs. I hope to use these as stills and would like to hear how people find the quality. This is for a micro niche paysite I am working on. We are filming this all ourselves right now, and my D70s ruins the audio and takes noisy images under the hotlights (so really it ruins the video too with flash). Considering the subject extra shooting is quite literally a real pain. These were shot with about 1300 watts of softened hot lights with a 0.45x wide angle on the HV20 at 1/48th 1080p24 (must pulldown which is a hassle) f1.8 and roughly 9db of gain. They have been mildly edited to denoise, mostly correct color, adjust levels, etc. I figure I can run a batch or script or something to do this in bulk, most of the settings were nearly the same, except for the cropping. Fair warning, these pictures are of me being spanked. I know this niche well. For this post I am mostly interested in what people think about the frame grabs usability as stills for a micro niche paysite. The frame grabs are lossless until compressing to jpegs in photoshop. Some of them are out-takes. http://wellspankedman.com/wp-content...ent-list-1.jpg http://wellspankedman.com/wp-content...ent-list-2.jpg http://wellspankedman.com/wp-content...ent-list-3.jpg http://wellspankedman.com/wp-content...ent-list-4.jpg http://wellspankedman.com/wp-content...ent-list-5.jpg http://wellspankedman.com/wp-content...ent-list-6.jpg

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03-31-2008, 01:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
slaxxx Leopard User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NY Posts: 5,106 Points: 2,652	They seem a little too warm to me...there's a mild peach hue?

03-31-2008, 03:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
thebes Getting back into the biz Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the Belly of the Beast Posts: 2,106 Points: 2,205	Hmmm possibly a bit off on the color balance still. I need to get some sort of color correction for my laptop display, I can not find a valid profile for it. The location is inside of an old adobe with sort of buff tan plaster walls. How is the noise, resolution, sharpness? I know they don't compare with my dslr (with flash), but are they good enough?

03-31-2008, 06:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
slaxxx Leopard User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NY Posts: 5,106 Points: 2,652	I think they're good enough even as they are now but if you're going to batch a lot of them, you might want to at least do auto-color. I did auto-color, moved the middle triangle in levels to the left by 1.30, and then did auto contrast. Here's what looks better to me on an example pic (Samsung 225bw on OS X) http://www.slaxxx.com/pl4.jpg

03-31-2008, 07:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
thebes Getting back into the biz Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the Belly of the Beast Posts: 2,106 Points: 2,205	Yeah, I definitely need to get some sort of color calibration. On my screen yours look very cool, but then I already know I am having trouble with an appropriate color profile for my display. It'll be a two to three months before I have the paysite up, but its good to know my display is that far off since I am selling video on clips4sale while we are shooting the content.