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Old 06-07-2008, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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PR0 to PR1 - your story?

Hey there,

I was looking for some stories as
-How long did it take you to raise from PR0 to PR1?
-Did find it hard? What was your strategy?

PS: Real stories only, no "i think this" / "i heard that"

Thanks.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Build links and wait PR update, if you done good you will get nice rank
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh well.. I was looking for stories and when/how it happened for every webmaster in here.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You'll only know when google does it's pr updates. Usually around every 3 months and it should be sometime in july I would think.

Most of my sites are at least pr1 and my only guess is they need to be a couple of months old and have a handfull or so backlinks from sites indexed by google to reach pr1.

I, like most others don't care to much about pr. It's good to have a high pr mainly because you'll be able to trade with others, but unless you plan on profiting from beeing able to tell people you've got sites with high pr (by for example selling links) then don't put your effort into increasing your pr.

Focus on building good sites that get good traffic, that's what it's all about anyways and I'm sure the pr will follow.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh well.. I was looking for stories and when/how it happened for every webmaster in here.
What particular story you think you will hear? Trade links, buy links, plug,thug, and wait to see what G think about all that

But for example i have mainstream blog, i just posted comments (but normal comments about their articles) on related other people blogs and i got PR4 from PR0 (not sure why because comment links are nofollowe) but probably G love good content two
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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When I started off with my erotica story site I went to PR1 in less than a month. I thought it was a really big deal. But looking back I think it was simple the fact that there was lots of text content on there, good key words, and the links I started with were very relevant.
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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well, it depends on when next google PR update is. I had sites that needed to wait 2-3 months to get PR, others got it 5-10 days after they were launched, because they got lucky next PR update was that soon.

as about strategy - there isn't any other strategy except 'get more inbound links'
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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PR is much more symbolic than it is accurate at measuring a site's standing with the big G. It's only worth checking out if you are selling the domain, for some reason people care about it :/
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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gave my site few backlinks from high PR websites and after second PR update I had PR3. The first PR update always gives you PR0 (taht happens to all my sites, no matter how many backlinks they have)
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Nobody knows apart from Google when the next 'Toolbar' update will be but if you have a few inward links you will already have Google PR. Do a search yourself and read about google pr and toolbar pr, Google admits themselves that toolbar PR is not to be taken seriously. The only thing green toolbar PR is good for is trading links with webmasters who do not understand this. You could have a real shit low traffic site with a toolbar pr4 and webmasters will scrabble for link exchanges with you believing it is something magical.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not quite..
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PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important".
Therefore, when it comes to shitty text links exchange, I would always have 10 sites PR1 linking to me, then 10 sites PR0 linking to me. No matter what traffic they have. If somebody places a deep burried small text link towards you, you shouldn't expect much traffic from that, but the number of pages vouching for you would be +1. And if +1 has high PR, the better.
If we are talking about well placed banners, then yeah, I would rather care about traffic, so I get higher number and better quallity in visitors reffered to me.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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forget about PR and concentrate on building a useful site.
Totally agree with you.

- Does high PR get more traffic to your site - No!
- Does high PR helps you get a better position in SERP's - No!
- Does high PR makes your visitors click more ad's - No!
- Does high PR makes your sponsor check to grow - No!
- Does high PR get you laid - No!

So WTF is all this fuzz about PR anyway!
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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One thing i can say for sure is that a page linking to you with PR will get you indexed faster.

I put one link on a site of mine with PR for a brand new site on a subdomain and within the week the subdomain is already indexed and sometimes even shows inbound links coming to it.
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Old 06-08-2008, 02:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Totally agree with you.

- Does high PR get more traffic to your site - No!
- Does high PR helps you get a better position in SERP's - No!
- Does high PR makes your visitors click more ad's - No!
- Does high PR makes your sponsor check to grow - No!
- Does high PR get you laid - No!

So WTF is all this fuzz about PR anyway!
Looks like you are trying to eat soup using a fork. PR doesn't mow your lawn either. And not only because PR doesn't have a mower, but because it is not used like that. Sergey and Larry decided that you are listed not only by how many vouch for you (link to you), but also the PR of the page that does that.
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:02 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Sergey and Larry decided that you are listed not only by how many vouch for you (link to you), but also the PR of the page that does that.
Strange thing though, that the same guys let PR0 sites be in top of loots of great keywords in their SERP's.
PR does not inflict the way your site is presented in the SERP's.
If you are certain that it do, back it up with some documentation.
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Strange thing though, that the same guys let PR0 sites be in top of loots of great keywords in their SERP's.
PR does not inflict the way your site is presented in the SERP's.
If you are certain that it do, back it up with some documentation.
Google backs it up itself:
Google Technology

However, you misunderstood the purpose of the PR. If you don't match the query, you can be sky high PR, it won't help you. On the other hand if 10 PR2 pages link to you, it will weight more then 10 PR0 pages linking to you.
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Google backs it up itself:
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Said nothing about PR vs. placements in SERP's, just PR explained.
Feel free to contribute with more documentation
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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However, you misunderstood the purpose of the PR. If you don't match the query, you can be sky high PR, it won't help you. On the other hand if 10 PR2 pages link to you, it will weight more then 10 PR0 pages linking to you.
I didn't misunderstood anything.
I am not interested in PR, i am interested in high SERP placement, traffic, clicks and dollars.
If you are interested in gaining high PR, well, thats your purpose, but i am interested in high payouts on my checks.
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I didn't misunderstood anything.
I am not interested in PR, i am interested in high SERP placement, traffic, clicks and dollars.
If you are interested in gaining high PR, well, thats your purpose, but i am interested in high payouts on my checks.
If you are expecting "high PR => all over the search results no matter what", then you actually did misunderstood it. It clearly explains that the main purpose is to weight more or less one link from one page to another page. Search results are calculated more complicated then "order by PR, desc".
However, this was not the point of the topic, please read the first post. I really don't get it how the subject of the topic got to "high PR vs. fat checks".
Also, if you don't realise it that you will benefit more from 10 PR2 links to you, rather then 10 PR0, the discussion is useless. And giving you a further clue, if you own a network of 30 sites that link back to each other, you will definetly wish to have high PR for them.
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If you are expecting "high PR => all over the search results no matter what", then you actually did misunderstood it.
I said PR is useless, you said it weren't. I asked for doc's, wich you couldn't provide.

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if you own a network of 30 sites that link back to each other, you will definetly wish to have high PR for them.
Actually, i own a network with close to 3000 sites, and none are recip linking eachother, wich is good, and you should allso know that.
I would much rather prefer a linkback from a site with 5000 visits/day and PR0, than a PR3 site with 200 daily visits. I guess you catch my point.
I would rather prefer a link from 1000 PR0 sites, than 5 PR8 sites, even if the 5 links will give me a PR5.

To put PR value over the value of the amount on your paycheck is really, really nerdy
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