Inbound links - How do YOU get them?

[Escort Me]

I'm curious how people go about getting lots of good inboard links. Most SEO communities suggest sites like digg to bring the links in, but these don't seem to work that well for adult related sites.

Obviously people don't want to be linking out to adult sites if they're say, a knitting blog.

So, to receive natural inboard links, what do you all do?

[RageCash-Ben]

Trade niche links with other webmasters.

[surgui]

Build up a list of reliable sites offering one way back links. If you are going to trade links make sure you use a throw away domain. Not much use for serp's but can work for traffic.

[Escort Me]

I'm not a huge fan of trading links for the purpose of trading links. You're right it can bring you some traffic, but the benefit for your serps seems minimal when search engines find the two-way link.

[diablom]

trading and building site network

[diablom]

Originally Posted by Escort Me

I'm not a huge fan of trading links for the purpose of trading links. You're right it can bring you some traffic, but the benefit for your serps seems minimal when search engines find the two-way link.

no need to trade A - B, B - A. Trade A - B - C

[surgui]

Originally Posted by diablom

no need to trade A - B, B - A. Trade A - B - C

Link building is a numbers game and if the sites linking into you start falling over you have to replace them. That starts to cost. So why trade links with a webmaster who is using a throw away domain when they to link back to you? And if he is not using a throw away domain, you dont want to give him an outbound either. He is going to make a mistake sooner or later. He is going to get zapped and thats bad for your business. Trading doesn't add up except in the short term. On the other hand if its the traffic you are after you can always no follow the links and remove that possibility of long term penalties.

[BadWolf]

Originally Posted by surgui

Link building is a numbers game and if the sites linking into you start falling over you have to replace them. That starts to cost. So why trade links with a webmaster who is using a throw away domain when they to link back to you? And if he is not using a throw away domain, you dont want to give him an outbound either. He is going to make a mistake sooner or later. He is going to get zapped and thats bad for your business. Trading doesn't add up except in the short term. On the other hand if its the traffic you are after you can always no follow the links and remove that possibility of long term penalties.

Screw them before they screw you?



To answer the original question, I build niche networks and do ABC linking within them.

[darthsplitfoot]

Start "no-follow"ing links you are using as trades and before long you're gonna get blacklisted and lots of future trades aren't gonna b there 4 u. a better strategy might be to trade links with sites you trust and that trust you, don't screw them or you'll end up being screwed eventually.

[seeandsee]

You can trade, buy or submit your sites to directories

[surgui]

Originally Posted by darthsplitfoot

Start "no-follow"ing links you are using as trades and before long you're gonna get blacklisted and lots of future trades aren't gonna b there 4 u.

Why? Who will blacklist you and for what? Surely its a question of what you are looking for. If its traffic then the "no follow" attribute is not an issue. Would you link out to a site that also sells traffic without a "no follow" tag?

If on the other hand you are building links to improve your serps you have to start thinking long term and there is no sense in linking out to sites that have no problem linking out to sites that they pick up here there and everywhere.

Originally Posted by darthsplitfoot

a better strategy might be to trade links with sites you trust and that trust you, don't screw them or you'll end up being screwed eventually.

Who can you trust? Sites change hands all the time. Webmasters generally start off all cock-a-hoop and end up bitter and twisted six months later. Good more often goes bad and the question I would ask is how many times are you going to flick through your out going links to check that they are still above board. How can you?

Those sites you are linking to may not be today's problem but there is without question a better than average chance that at least one of them will become tomorrows nightmare. Like I said I cant see what gets you all knotted up by that "no follow" attribute.

[StoneHammer]

why are you manually checking your linktrades, use a software that does it.

btw...you sound like your already "Webmasters generally start off all cock-a-hoop and end up bitter and twisted six months later"

[surgui]

You have software that can predict which sites are going grey and will ultimately end up becoming the sort of neighbourhood you don't want to be seen in?

[darthsplitfoot]

Originally Posted by StoneHammer

why are you manually checking your linktrades, use a software that does it.

btw...you sound like your already "Webmasters generally start off all cock-a-hoop and end up bitter and twisted six months later"

You're preachin to the choir, brother...and that's the first time I've ever been called a cock-a-hoop!

[darthsplitfoot]

and I say again, trade with sites THAT YOU "TRUST", and what I didn't say was trade with who and whatever assuming that nothing will ever go wrong with a site or domain at some point in the future. And if you don't have time to do the work that it takes to maintain your site, like occasionally (or often) checking your link partners, maybe you're in the wrong biz.

[StoneHammer]

i hear you man, surgui has the unique ability to 'misunderstand everything'

[BadWolf]

Originally Posted by surgui

Why? Who will blacklist you and for what?

I would. (In fact, I already have.) Anyone on this board would.

For what? For being dishonest, plain and simple. You don't put 'no follow' on your trade links.

[surgui]

Originally Posted by darthsplitfoot

and I say again, trade with sites THAT YOU "TRUST", and what I didn't say was trade with who and whatever.

Trust is a relative term but I think we agree that "trading" is a risky business unless you know who you are dealing with.

Originally Posted by darthsplitfoot

and what I didn't say was trade with who and whatever assuming that nothing will ever go wrong with a site or domain at some point in the future. And if you don't have time to do the work that it takes to maintain your site, like occasionally (or often) checking your link partners, maybe you're in the wrong biz.

How many links does it take to secure a competitive key word?
How many key words do you target for each site?

I sure as hell dont have time to keep looking over my shoulder just to keep tabs on all the links I build. I watch my serp's and make sure that the important ones are not here today and gone tomorrow. I seldom link out and never trade. There is no value in it.

[surgui]

Originally Posted by BadWolf

I would. (In fact, I already have.) Anyone on this board would.

For what? For being dishonest, plain and simple. You don't put 'no follow' on your trade links.

Would you link out to a site that also sells traffic without a "no follow" tag?

[darthsplitfoot]

Originally Posted by BadWolf

I would. (In fact, I already have.) Anyone on this board would.

For what? For being dishonest, plain and simple. You don't put 'no follow' on your trade links.

ditto for me, and 4-ever