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Old 08-26-2005, 01:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Google PR Factors - Full List

Hi! Here is Google PR Factors full list:

What do you think about this list?
I think is one of beter you will ever find!
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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HOT 2 Keyword in domain name -> Same as in page-name-with-hyphens
Without hyphens isn't as good?
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There was one of the "negative" factors:

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Vile language - ethnic slur
I wonder if this is true or not since a lot of my blog sales text uses some serious dirty talk.

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Old 08-26-2005, 03:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Very interesting, and contains a lot of what I have generally picked up on forums.

Radicalseoguy...... I asked you about this one theother day regarding hyphens

#26 "Preferred method for indicating a space
One or two= excellent for separating keywords
Four or more= BAD, starts to look spammy
Ten = Spammer for sure, demotion probable?"
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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some of those are bullshit...there are a lot of #1 rankings that have been there forever that have "vulgar language"
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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33 - Applied Semantics Synonyms, CIRCA whitepaper
34 - LSI Latent Semantic Indexing - Speculation, no proof
hehehehe

The grouping of those two together kinda demonstrates that not a lot of discretion went into compiling this list.

You can not cite applied semantics and synonyms as important and then say that LSI is speculation. One is left wondering just what the author thinks LSI is and what applied semantics does...
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hyphens... Google Engineers giggle about hyphens. And about the agony some people go through to get just the right keywords and hyphens in their urls.

If you are worried about your listing in billybobs linkum up emporium, use hyphens, otherwise realize that the big boys can all parse out your keywoprds just fine without them.
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That has some interesting info

Thanks for the link!
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Page isn't there but I thought I'd comment based on the posts in the thread.
Google PageRank (as in PR, that green thing in the toolbar ) in not in direct correlation to a site's position in the SERP's (search results). PR is simply a measure of incoming links, taking into account the PR of those incoming links and how many sites they link to. It's a voting system. PR flows through the system from one site to another.

But PR isn't everything. I got lots of PR5 sites that are nowhere to be found in the SERP's. What matters, other than onpage optimization, is what sites link to you and what anchor text they are using. You need to get backlinks with sites that are on the same subject as your targeted key phrase. And you need to make sure the anchor text includes that key phrase as well.

And that's where hypenated domain names come in. With a hyphenated domain name you are going to get the keyphrase in the anchor text even if the people linking to you just use http://www.keyword1-keyword2.com.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Page isn't there but I thought I'd comment based on the posts in the thread.
Google PageRank (as in PR, that green thing in the toolbar ) in not in direct correlation to a site's position in the SERP's (search results). PR is simply a measure of incoming links, taking into account the PR of those incoming links and how many sites they link to. It's a voting system. PR flows through the system from one site to another.

But PR isn't everything. I got lots of PR5 sites that are nowhere to be found in the SERP's. What matters, other than onpage optimization, is what sites link to you and what anchor text they are using. You need to get backlinks with sites that are on the same subject as your targeted key phrase. And you need to make sure the anchor text includes that key phrase as well.

And that's where hypenated domain names come in. With a hyphenated domain name you are going to get the keyphrase in the anchor text even if the people linking to you just use http://www.keyword1-keyword2.com.
OK, I'll add my 0.02$ to it...

PR isn't taking you to higher results just because it's (the public one) not refreshed often. And that's why. If we get more actual results, refreshed every week or something like that, it would matter much more!

Abut hypenated domains.. If you god for example
keywordsex.com, G will point you in searches for keyword, keywords, word, words, sex, wordsex etc. With keyword-sex(DOT)com, you'd get only keyword, word and sex.. And that's the main difference IMHO. And that's also why you should look for no-hypenated domains first, as you never know what hidder words will G. find in your domain
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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OK, I'll add my 0.02$ to it...

PR isn't taking you to higher results just because it's (the public one) not refreshed often. And that's why. If we get more actual results, refreshed every week or something like that, it would matter much more!
To the best of my knowledge, even if you had the toolbar updated to the minute, it still doesn't mean PR is directly correlated with your desired position in the search results, unless you're talking about two identical pages with identical inbound links (only less of them). PR is just one factor in the algo, not the be all and end all of it.
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:32 AM   #14 (permalink)
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...Abut hypenated domains.. If you god for example
keywordsex.com, G will point you in searches for keyword, keywords, word, words, sex, wordsex etc. With keyword-sex(DOT)com, you'd get only keyword, word and sex.. And that's the main difference IMHO. And that's also why you should look for no-hypenated domains first, as you never know what hidder words will G. find in your domain
That's a very important point, one that I didn't even think of till now.
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:02 AM   #15 (permalink)
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To the best of my knowledge, even if you had the toolbar updated to the minute, it still doesn't mean PR is directly correlated with your desired position in the search results, unless you're talking about two identical pages with identical inbound links (only less of them). PR is just one factor in the algo, not the be all and end all of it.
I never said having high PR would cause you've got #1. It's just when all of you focus on getting links back from pages with high PR it's fucking inactuall, because PR is refreshed only some times a year!
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Old 09-20-2005, 07:51 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tigermom
Page isn't there but I thought I'd comment based on the posts in the thread.
Google PageRank (as in PR, that green thing in the toolbar ) in not in direct correlation to a site's position in the SERP's (search results). PR is simply a measure of incoming links, taking into account the PR of those incoming links and how many sites they link to. It's a voting system. PR flows through the system from one site to another.

But PR isn't everything. I got lots of PR5 sites that are nowhere to be found in the SERP's. What matters, other than onpage optimization, is what sites link to you and what anchor text they are using. You need to get backlinks with sites that are on the same subject as your targeted key phrase. And you need to make sure the anchor text includes that key phrase as well.

And that's where hypenated domain names come in. With a hyphenated domain name you are going to get the keyphrase in the anchor text even if the people linking to you just use http://www.keyword1-keyword2.com.
Thank you. That is by far the most knowledgeable post in this entire thread.

The key in all that is "anchor text". It is your inbound links anchor text that will do the most for your position in the SERPS.

As google tends to grant entire words seperated by spaces as slightly more weighted, all other things being equal, and knowing that google sees hyphens as spaces, using hyphenated domains stands to reason that the words in them will help you more than bunching words together without hyphens. Yes, you may get an extra keyword or 2 out of them the other way, but whats more important, getting a few extra hits from those keys or getting a lot more traffic because your main keywords rank higher?
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Old 09-20-2005, 07:54 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I never said having high PR would cause you've got #1. It's just when all of you focus on getting links back from pages with high PR it's fucking inactuall, because PR is refreshed only some times a year!
Toolbar is only refreshed every 3 months. But that is not the actual PageRank that google uses in their ranking algo. The PageRank values they use for rankings change the same as everflux (changing SERPS) is seen.

If you want more actual info on pagerank, check out http://www.webworkshop.net some people call it the Home of PageRank.
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Old 09-20-2005, 07:57 AM   #19 (permalink)
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People www.google-pr-rank.tk is dead!!!

But the site is hosted here:
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PR is a funny bitch! The more you read about it the more I think I don't know anything about it
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