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Old 08-29-2005, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Win my points

Ok, win my points time again!

For all my points:

From reading the info contained within this forum, what are possible solutions too avoid the "Sandbox" or "Linkdampner Penalty"

People who give the right answer will all be placed into the hat so to speak and I'll pick out the lucky winner!

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Old 08-29-2005, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Target "Topical Phenomena" & a Non-Commercial Audience
Build Natural Links & Avoid Getting Blogrolled
Get Noticed in the News
Build Exceptional Quality Sites
Don't Rely on Google's Traffic
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Old 08-29-2005, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Buy pre listed sites and roll them, hehehe.
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Old 08-29-2005, 10:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't build pages on the site too fast because of google thinking it's spam AND do not get too many new inbound links too fast because of google thinking it's not a natural way of linking to your site. That's basically it..
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Old 08-29-2005, 10:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Dont repeat keywords a million times, make sure your sentances make cents, and get inbound links that relate to your website '=
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Old 08-30-2005, 09:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Buy pre listed sites and roll them, hehehe.

lol heheheheheh
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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some results of my research on this problem:

don't aquire too many inbound links too quickly, search for high quality, trusted sites to link to your site
don't set up sites especially to boost link popularity for other sites
don't link to other sites using a 302 redirect
don't load pages with irrelevant words in an attempt to increase a page's keyword density. This includes stuffing ALT tags that users are unlikely to view
don't use hidden text or links. You should use only text and links that are visible to users
don't create multiple pages, sub domains, or domains with substantially duplicate content (Avoid "doorway" pages created just for search engines)
google may penalize misspellings of well-known websites

DO promote your site without engaging in "illegal" practices.

(most of them was allready mentioned )
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Don't do this:

Text presented in graphics form only
No ACTUAL body text on the page Text represented graphically is invisible to search engines.

Affiliate site? The Florida update went after affiliates with a vengeance - flower and travel affiliates were hit hard - cookie-cutter sites with massive inter-linking, but little unique content.

Link to a bad neighborhood Don't link to link farms, FFAs
Don't forget to check the Google status of EVERYONE you link to periodically. A site may go "bad", and you can end up being penalized, even though you did nothing.

Redirect thru refresh metatags Don't immediately send your visitor to another page other than the one he clicked on.
Including the George Carlin 7 words you can't say on TV, plus the 150 or so that followed. Don't shoot yourself right straight in the foot. Also, avoid combinations of normal words, which when used together, become something else entirely - such as the word juice, and the word love.

Poison words "Links" in title tag, etc. Here is my list of Poison Words for Adsense. This penalty has been loosened - many of these words now appear in normal context, with no problems. But watch your step.
BAD 46 Excessive cross-linking - within the same C block (IP=xxx.xxx.CCC.xxx)

If you have many sites with the same web host, prolific cross-linking can indicate more of a single entity, and less of democratic web voting. Easy to spot, easy to penalize.

Stealing images/ text blocks from another domain Copyright violation - Google responds strongly
if you are reported. ref egol
File Google DMCA

Keyword stuffing threshold In body, meta tags, alt text, etc. = demotion

Keyword dilution Targeting too many unrelated keywords on a page,
which would detract from theming, and reduce the importance of your REALLY important keywords.

Zero links to you You MUST have at least 1 (one) incoming link (backlink) from some website somewhere, that Google is aware of, to REMAIN in the index.

Link-buying
(Very good IF you don't get caught)
Google patent - Google hates link-buying, because it corrupts their PR model in the worst way possible.
1. Does your page have links it really doesn't merit?
2. Did you get tons of links in a short time period?
3. Do you have links from high-PR, unrelated sites?

Penalties - resulting from
Domain Hijacking
(work with Google to fix) Should result in IMPRISONMENT, forthwith!
Grand Theft, mandatory minimum sentence.
The criminal COPYS your entire website, and HOSTS it elsewhere, with . . . a few changes.

Redirect Attack and Hijackers
Impossible by Google definition (except for a few nasty tricks, like making your competition appear to be link spammers)
Ideally, there SHOULD be nothing that your competition can do to directly hurt your rankings.
However, an astute observer noticed that Google changed their website to read :
Old verbiage = "There is nothing a competitor can do to harm your ranking ..."
New verbiage = "There is ALMOST nothing a competitor can do ..."
An obvious concession that Google thinks that at least some dirty tricks work! Of course, there will always be new ones!

That is all !
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Floryn
Target "Topical Phenomena" & a Non-Commercial Audience
Build Natural Links & Avoid Getting Blogrolled
Get Noticed in the News
Build Exceptional Quality Sites
Don't Rely on Google's Traffic

Congrats Floryn u came the closet

Some good answers, was hard to pick!!
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Nice attempt by seeandsee.

The only problem with the question is that it might not always be possible to avoid the sandbox. It is a penalty for new sites, and it can depend on the sector your site is in.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You of course are aware of fact Sandbox has many meanings :P You cannot, for example, avoid Goggle's Sandbox, it's just a feature of their AdWords:
Sandbox by Google :P Go and check it
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Old 09-13-2005, 05:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The winner here is everyone who's reading the tips that have been posted
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