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Old 12-06-2005, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Problems with MSN

One of my sites was doing very well in MSN for about 2 months (since indexed, it's a new site) but suddenly MSN is deindexing this site. I had 55 pages in index , then dropped to 25, today i see only 13 indexed pages.

I don't use any black hat techniques, don't know why it happens. Should i now reorganize site or something like that ? It is possible to get back to index ?

Anybody experienced such a problems ?
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would wait about a week. Maybe it's a little glitch a msn. It is possible that after a couple of days your sites including pages is back in the index again.
Did you make big changes in the last week? Or did some sites linking to you drop their links?
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm used to be temporary deindexed from msn, just change title/description and wait 2 days, 50% chance that will help coming back
You need to lower keyword density in title/desc! Even if you haven't change title/desc before that could came there : A math between density on page (that changed) and title/desc for example.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That is a really good advice Nargoroth, i will try it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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One more thing: what keyword density would you suggest for MSN ? also it is good to put keyword to description ? I have same description on every page (from one site), maybe i should use different ? I thought that no SE is looking at desc these days.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Were you making freesites or TGP Galleries on the domain?
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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No, no porn on this domain however i have some porn domains on this server (same ip). But other sites are fine (i have over 10 domains on that hosting).

MSNbot pretty heavily visits this site (over 600 visits in this month) but nothing changed. Few days ago indexed pages number dropped to 5 and its still at this level.

I changed title on all pages and still waiting...
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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when dealing with porn you have to be careful, from what ive heard, msn has the most efficient in filtering them. it's easy to get penalized.
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Another problem: when i type "my target keyword for page X" i can find in results my main site which have a link with anchor to that page. But there is no optimised page in results ! (page is indexed) Even if there is only 1k results for that term.

Is this a some kind of penalty or something ?
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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MSN is very unstable se. My site was on the first position by very good keyword, but when it was falling down i was not wondering about...
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Another problem: when i type "my target keyword for page X" i can find in results my main site which have a link with anchor to that page. But there is no optimised page in results ! (page is indexed) Even if there is only 1k results for that term.

Is this a some kind of penalty or something ?
If your anchor text contains your keyword then this can be normal. Basically your main page carries a lot more weight than internal pages, also your internal page may not have been indexed ir has been de-indexed.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No, no porn on this domain however i have some porn domains on this server (same ip). But other sites are fine (i have over 10 domains on that hosting).

MSNbot pretty heavily visits this site (over 600 visits in this month) but nothing changed. Few days ago indexed pages number dropped to 5 and its still at this level.

I changed title on all pages and still waiting...
Having sites on the same IP wont be helping you.

Good idea is to read the google guidelines, MSN guidelines and Yahoo guidelines for webmasters. See if your site is doing something which the SEs dont like. Could be a vast number of things.
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