Originally Posted by thomasbyers I have some sites with more traffic than they have ( Hub Pages ) already so I think I will have a great site when I get it up. It will be two sites in fact. One for adult and one for mainstream and I really think they will be a huge success. And I can now tell you since it is now purchased the domain for the adult site will be http://xxxhubs.com. There is nothing up there yet but it is coming soon. We were very lucky to get the domain. And I think it will develop well. It for sure tells you exactly what it is.

Originally Posted by squizzel i find this thread funny everyone just keeps spitting out the same text over and over. Thomas your really training up an army of slaves with this "build it and they will come junk" in todays market and in the search engines building is not enough nowadays. Link weight is 100 times more important that content nowadays. Again, im not trying to insult you or something but if i was a newbie id think i found the holy grail when i found this thread but well... too few people realise that its alot of work. Building, getting links and building some more.

Originally Posted by squizzel your phrase should be... if you build a ton of blogs, fill them up with text and link them together and exchange links... they will come in 6 months time.

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Originally Posted by BizChick One positive I've noticed since Hub Pages updated is the way it handles pictures. Much cleaner and sharper than before. In fact, there's a lot of subtle changes which are going to make mainstream hubs better than they were before. I'm hoping this boosts my Adsense revenue which wasn't exactly setting the world on fire

Originally Posted by Jeff8682 I have only had time to make one hub so far which took 2 days to get ranked #1 on google for its term. It gets about 125 hits daily from google alone. Also I haven't updated it since I made it about 2 weeks ago and it still is in the same spot.

Originally Posted by ynuahayt Squizzel is not wrong when he says that right now it's all about the backlinks. Everyone knows that you need text and pics to sell a surfer BUT I'm always spending more time on getting more traffic and that's how my figures are rising; not by making super duper awesome blogs posts. If I had 100.000 eyeballs every day on all of those blog posts I'd do it but I don't so I'd rather have more traffic. The awesome rankings we got/get with Squidoo/Hubpages? All because of one thing: Backlinks. Again - yes you need some real, hand-written content on the pages to sell the surfer but you can always write that stuff. You need a trusted platform to get the SE traffic. And that's why I think an Adult-only hubpages site will have a hard time taking off UNLESS you go out and purchase PR5+ links to it from big adult sites. Hubpages.com is linked up from all these big, authoritative Web 2.0 blog sites + a ton of regular mainstream blog/sites. They got those links because they're new, fresh material to blog about - and non-adult. Putting up a ton of pages with the most awesome content in the world will not impress the big G; it's all about those links, baby. /SEO 101 lesson.

Squizzel you get pissed off that Newbies are told anything. Thats the bottomline. I know it and you know it. If you go to Hub Pages and look I am always in the top 1-5 Hubbers there. Right now I am 4th over all. And I am only down to 4 because I slept 5 hours. So I must know something I would think.

I don't see why anyone reading this thread would get confused at all. One step builds up on its self. Just like building blocks. And I tell people over and over that there is no get rich quick scheme. No silver bullet. And I have several sites individual sites that get 50.000 hits a day every day. I get that many a day from Google so I must know something.

And while link popularity is important it is no where near as important as it once was. Content and text are playing a much bigger picture especially with Google. As is the freshness factor. Don't update Blogs and the longer you go with out updating them the further they will slip in the search engines. So that along should tell you that back links do not have the importance they once did.

I would encourage anyone when they get to the point where they can to never trade links out side their circle of sites again.

Another thing I see in this is some people think you should never use free hosts. Well I say a strong bullshit to that. While I own many many domains I will always take advantage of every free host I can that does not screw with my surfer. Hub Pages and Thumblogger are great. Hell Thumblogger as a free host is better than 75 percent of the paid hosts out there. It is really old thinking to say never use a free host. Hell anyone can afford a domain at $8. And the only reason they beat into everyone not to use free hosts was so they could take advantage of the newbies that came into the business and take money off them for domains and hosting. With Thumblogger and other great free hosts around there is no reason for a newbie to buy a domain or hosting until they get ready to. I don't believe in trying to make money off people who have little or nothing. Thumblogger is like gold and anyone would be a fool not to use it.

I have no referral links in my threads to sponsors. Look you will never find one. Not even if they ask. I don't believe in using my threads to take advantage of people and make money and I never will. And I am not trying to sell anyone a Ebook with all my secrets though I have gave them away in the past as you know. I do it for the pure joy of seeing other people especially newbies to the business make money. Thats all I want out of it.


I have people and no I won't mention their names here at Netpond who have followed my threads and today they are very successful webmasters making as much or more than what you state you are making and if you look around in my threads you will find where they have posted so again I must know what I am doing.

And I will always continue to give away the secrets. No matter how much you kick and scream and post. I will always tell new webmasters how to make money.

Do I do it different than other people I sure as hell do. Go the the thread about Link Dump Tips and Tricks and read what Bald Bastard wrote there about what I am doing. Thats one I will tell you where is. The others you will have to hunt down but their not hard to find.

Bottomline I am sorry your a bitter person. I still respect you because I do know you are making what you say you are and I have seen some of your sites. But I am never going to stop teaching newbies the secrets. Hell man I could turn off the computers tonight and never work again but I won't because I love what I am doing.

My next projects are my Hub Projects , a huge project like slacker and a Blog network on a different concept that I have come up with. All aimed at helping newbies get started in this business I love. And I am talking about mainstream and adult here.


I still get a thrill even today when I look at my stats and see a sale or a few sales plus up in my stats and at the same time I get excited when some one like Silent Whispers the other day made her post about a few sales from a few sponsors. Really excited because I know the feeling they get. I think of it like fishing with my own stuff. The more hooks ( websites ) I put in the water the more chances I have that a fish will come along and take the bait and I get excited at every one I get. Hell sometimes like the other day when I hit $2000.00 in a single day I ran outside and howled at the moon. And man I howled until the neighbor threatened to shoot me with a silver bullet. And the day I first hit $100.00 in adsense I took my wife out to a $200.00 dinner to celebrate. I still have a joy in what I am doing. The day I don't I will turn off the computers and sail off into the sunset which I plan to do in 10 years anyway. You need to loosen up mate and go watch the stars or hell even try howling at the moon or pet and stroke a cat. All are great stress relievers.

If you want to know the truth what I do works and works well. You can do one of my threads or the thread of a good friend of mine who I learned much from " Curious Toy Boy " and you will make money. Will you get rich? I never promised that did I. But like I said I have webmasters who make as much or more than you do and they were ready to quit when they started with my threads so again. I must know something and thats where I am going to leave it. I have a date with my wife to go for a walk for Ice Cream. Have fun everyone and happy fishing. And until I come back in a bit here remember.

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