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Old 12-14-2005, 12:27 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Yeah, that is an option. I like to put some of the SE terms that I am targeting on the subindex as links to the couple of fhg's that I am using. Would be kinda hard if there was a rotation on it.

We did something similar in gamma though, we also made a fake tgp page targeting another keyword that we had a seperate subindex for somewhere else on the domain, then interlinked that with the new stuff we did, and back to the subindex............and that would be a perfect use for SO.

I get what your saying, now i have a dilema am i goingto use the rotation or not, plus the extra option that SO got like i-frame .

Ohw and i still had a question about the LL and the recips, inst it so if you make a freesite with recips andyou put your own on it and you submitted to only the 12 bigones that you get spiderd much faster than submitting it to only little linklist and linkdumps ?

Its not the work just make a extra indexpage with a link to your main index with recips (index.htm) and a index with no recips at al (index.html) ? and that one you link to your subpage?

I know this project ios not ment to be submitting your pages to LL but i think its only one extra index page and sometimes a lot of extra traffic and traffic is never wrong imho
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:46 AM   #182 (permalink)
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I am not the expert in this tutorial by far, but I've been a big fan of the K.I.S.S. principle. Instead of figuring out how to hook this project up with the site organizer script, why not just build a sub index page, a free site and two galleries all interlinked? It's not that hard to do and I really do not see the advantages to using the site organizer script? (I use the S.O. script on fake tgps, but that's about it).

I think the focus of this project is to build a ton of KEYWORD FOCUSED pages to attract the spiders. It's not about submitting to link lists or tgps or hooking it up to the site organizer script...dont' overcomplicate a simple way to make good money...

If you want to get spidered faster, just hook up your project's index page to a site you own that has some decent traffic. You'll be spidered very quickly that way...
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:56 AM   #183 (permalink)
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I get what your saying, now i have a dilema am i goingto use the rotation or not, plus the extra option that SO got like i-frame .

Ohw and i still had a question about the LL and the recips, inst it so if you make a freesite with recips andyou put your own on it and you submitted to only the 12 bigones that you get spiderd much faster than submitting it to only little linklist and linkdumps ?

Its not the work just make a extra indexpage with a link to your main index with recips (index.htm) and a index with no recips at al (index.html) ? and that one you link to your subpage?

I know this project ios not ment to be submitting your pages to LL but i think its only one extra index page and sometimes a lot of extra traffic and traffic is never wrong imho

If I were doing that, I would just duplicate the freesite on a different domain, and switch up the keywords so it wouldn't be different.

This tutorial is something that can work in conjunction with doing 2 galleries, and a freesite submit per day.................This tutorial isn't about the traffic that comes from submissions, those are just gravy hits, it is about the incoming link that you get, that boosts your serps up.

There is no law saying you can't take the 2 galleries and 1 freesite that you made and submitted on another domain earlier in the day, duplicating them on your ctb project domain, and change up the text to make your work go by quicker

I would use the ****** option if you choose to make daily fake tgp pages also on the domain, as that may give you a few extra clicks (maybe ppc)...........If it were me, I wouldn't do it on the subindex page because I want to steer them only to what that pages keyword is selling. I mean why make 3 cents, when you could possibly make 35 bucks off the same click, ya know? It is sweet, sweet, SE traffic.

Though, that is just my thinking on the subject, there really is tons of ways this tutorial can be done while still following the skeleton laid out. You can always test out other ways of making money like you were saying.

It is just kind of different than what most other tutorials are talking about, so it is hard to get out of that mentality.................hell, even do it on 2 domains, doing one, one way, and the other the other way, use some tracking campaigns, and after 3 months see which one is making you the most overall profit.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:59 AM   #184 (permalink)
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Nice another great tutorial by Curious!
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:12 AM   #185 (permalink)
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Nice another great tutorial by Curious!
This is the only one I know about, if you found another point it out, so I can do some reading!
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:21 AM   #186 (permalink)
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I get what your saying, now i have a dilema am i goingto use the rotation or not, plus the extra option that SO got like i-frame .
Use whatever options ytou wish.. this tutorial lays a BASIC plan which IF followed EXACTLY, WILL have the results claimed.

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Ohw and i still had a question about the LL and the recips, inst it so if you make a freesite with recips andyou put your own on it and you submitted to only the 12 bigones that you get spiderd much faster than submitting it to only little linklist and linkdumps ?
Yes it may, but being spidered and valuie of long term linkage... ying and yang, it's always about balance.

Long bterm linkage factors FAR outwiegh short term considerations.

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Its not the work just make a extra indexpage with a link to your main index with recips (index.htm) and a index with no recips at al (index.html) ? and that one you link to your subpage?
Sure thing, but the key is SIMPLICITY - do NOT set a work schedule you cannot complete consistently !!!

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I know this project ios not ment to be submitting your pages to LL but i think its only one extra index page and sometimes a lot of extra traffic and traffic is never wrong imho
Too true, but set a foundation and then build on it.

It worked for me.

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Old 12-14-2005, 02:22 AM   #187 (permalink)
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I am not the expert in this tutorial by far, but I've been a big fan of the K.I.S.S. principle. Instead of figuring out how to hook this project up with the site organizer script, why not just build a sub index page, a free site and two galleries all interlinked? It's not that hard to do and I really do not see the advantages to using the site organizer script? (I use the S.O. script on fake tgps, but that's about it).

I think the focus of this project is to build a ton of KEYWORD FOCUSED pages to attract the spiders. It's not about submitting to link lists or tgps or hooking it up to the site organizer script...dont' overcomplicate a simple way to make good money...

If you want to get spidered faster, just hook up your project's index page to a site you own that has some decent traffic. You'll be spidered very quickly that way...
I call that an "expert" opinion - pretty much sums it all up in a nutshell !

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Old 12-14-2005, 02:33 AM   #188 (permalink)
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This is the only one I know about, if you found another point it out, so I can do some reading!
There have a been a few here and there across other boards but nothing of this import or depth...

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Old 12-14-2005, 11:28 AM   #189 (permalink)
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I know this project ios not ment to be submitting your pages to LL but i think its only one extra index page and sometimes a lot of extra traffic and traffic is never wrong imho

You are right but why give someone else your traffic for free? If you have receips to LL and TGPs part of your traffic will go to them as well so just follow tutorial and you will be fine
I wish Gamma is still there so that we can all do it one more time together
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:40 AM   #190 (permalink)
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You are right but why give someone else your traffic for free? If you have receips to LL and TGPs part of your traffic will go to them as well so just follow tutorial and you will be fine
I wish Gamma is still there so that we can all do it one more time together
I am contemplating doing an ultra massive 1 year long tutorial based on this tutorial, starting with a brand new domain, and showing sponsor hits only coming from that one domain. Think there would be interest in following it for people?

Though it wouldn't be much of a tutorial since all the info is out there, but I guess it could show concrete examples of what is to be done, and convert the non believers
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:19 PM   #191 (permalink)
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You are right but why give someone else your traffic for free? If you have receips to LL and TGPs part of your traffic will go to them as well so just follow tutorial and you will be fine
I wish Gamma is still there so that we can all do it one more time together
Maybe a stupid idea, but can't we set something up like that, maybe a thread on the newbie board where we all can post in make it sticky and everybody following that tutorial can post there comments and questions in there ?

Maybe a sub forum or something, it could be fun picking the brains of guys like CTB and shifty and make cash with each other maybe we can post every weekend the results of the week before on traffic and sales or shit like that

Just thinking here


Well with the LL recipe page i disagree here i am very sorry but its just making one extra page and the traffic that you lose on those recipes is in ni comparisan with what you get its a adiotion of just one page

I think if you dont do that, your loosing out on traffic but that is my opinion
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:10 PM   #192 (permalink)
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you aren't losing out on traffic, cause you already have your freesite for the day done, on another domain, and you can't sub 2 a day
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:53 PM   #193 (permalink)
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you aren't losing out on traffic, cause you already have your freesite for the day done, on another domain, and you can't sub 2 a day

Yeah ok you main that way just use 2 domains, i got 2 domains that i can use for that, i am going on the nightshift tonight and i am really going to think things true some more, i know i can do more i have like 8 till 10 hours a day and when this is setup your doing it in like 4

Thanks for the tip Shifty
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:53 PM   #194 (permalink)
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I would like to join if youre starting up a new gamma-like-team! I read this thread last year when it first came out, but didnt follow it because i was in the army.
Would be great to make a decent cash flow during 06!
Would you start it up again toyboy?
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:23 PM   #195 (permalink)
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pornpirate, all the info is right here in this thread, and any answers can be answered here, or via email, etc.
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Yeah ok you main that way just use 2 domains, i got 2 domains that i can use for that, i am going on the nightshift tonight and i am really going to think things true some more, i know i can do more i have like 8 till 10 hours a day and when this is setup your doing it in like 4

Thanks for the tip Shifty
Here is why I think it is best to keep things seperate. On your regular freesite submit, you want to use most all links to sponsor, but with this program, you are needing 2 outgoing links.......one to your subindex, and one to the tgp gallery you made for the day........that only leaves you ONE ad for your main page.

I'd rather seperate, and have double the stuff floating out there....

That's my reasoning anyway
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:00 PM   #197 (permalink)
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ok i have one more question for today cuzz i need to get to work soon, the LL that require no recipe dont they mind that you using links to your own pages instead of a sponsor

And a second question so i have something to read when i get back tomorrow morning is it a good idea to put a self made FPA between the sub index and the gallery free site offcource this page is SEO so that is all for now folks


Thanks for thoise great tips of that sick sick brian of yours
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